How do I answer this?

[James924]

This is coming from a Jew who accepts Jesus as Messiah but not as God:

*I have been thinking of our conversation about the Trinity, and I would like to ask you this:

Does Yahusha have a God?

I think your answer is going to be, “no He is God”.

In which case, I am going to respond and say:
If He is God, then who is He stating to be His God when He says,
"I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brethren (disciples), and say to them, 'I ascend to my Father and your Father, and my God and your God." (John 20: 17).

So what say you regarding this?
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How do I answer this?

Thanks

Also, if you have time, please look at my other two questions on this matter:
Who’s Name is Yahweh?
Two Questions about Jesus’ Divinity and the Trinity

 

[SimonArizona]

This is coming from a Jew who accepts Jesus as Messiah but not as God:

*I have been thinking of our conversation about the Trinity, and I would like to ask you this:

Does Yahusha have a God?

I think your answer is going to be, “no He is God”.

In which case, I am going to respond and say:
If He is God, then who is He stating to be His God when He says,
"I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brethren (disciples), and say to them, 'I ascend to my Father and your Father, and my God and your God." (John 20: 17).*

So what say you regarding this?

How do I answer this?

Read St. Athansius “On the Incarnation”

We hold that Jesus became true man. As true man, he had a true God, a true mother also. Everything Jesus did was for our example. “Do not call me good” there is one good, God. He is showing us how to act, and at the same time, redeeming our perverse and wicked lives by living one perfectly.

 

[geometer]

Jesus said that the whole bible is about the shema, and love of your neighbor.

So, no Jesus wasn’t lying about his God and your God his father and your father.

 

[COPLAND_3]

This is coming from a Jew who accepts Jesus as Messiah but not as God:

*I have been thinking of our conversation about the Trinity, and I would like to ask you this:

Does Yahusha have a God?

I think your answer is going to be, “no He is God”.

In which case, I am going to respond and say:
If He is God, then who is He stating to be His God when He says,
"I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brethren (disciples), and say to them, 'I ascend to my Father and your Father, and my God and your God." (John 20: 17).*

So what say you regarding this?

How do I answer this?

Thanks

Also, if you have time, please look at my other two questions on this matter:
Who’s Name is Yahweh?
Two Questions about Jesus’ Divinity and the Trinity

There are legitimate questions like this concerning various Scripture passages that show us why Arianism was attractive. I will give quotes that answer this passage.

St. Thomas Aquinas- According to Augustine, Christ is speaking of himself and referring to each of his natures. **I am ascending to my Father and your Father **refers to his divine nature, and from this point of view he has as Father God, to whom he is equal and like in nature. …When he adds, to my God and your God, he is referring to his human nature. From this point of view God rules him; thus he says, my God, under whom I am a man.

St. Hilary of Poiters- Heretics, among their other impieties, misinterpret these words of our Lord’s, and say, that if His Father is their Father, His God their God, He cannot be God Himself. But though He remained in the form of God, He took upon Him the form of a servant; and Christ says this in the form of a servant to men. And we cannot doubt that in so far as He is man, the Father is His Father in the same sense in which He is of other men, and God His God in like manner. Indeed He begins with saying, Go to My brethren, But God can only have brethren according to the flesh; the Only-Begotten God, being Only-Begotten, is without brethren.

St. John of Damascus- this should be understood more in an abstract way, as though he were ranking himself with us. Those passages in general, that are sublime must be assigned to the divine nature, which is superior to passion and body. And those passages that are humble must be ascribed to the human nature. Ansd those passages that are common must be attributed to the compound being, that is, the one Christ, who is God and man. And it should be understood that both the human and divine belong to one and the same Jesus Christ, Our Lord. For if we know what is proper to each, and percieve that both are performed by one and the same, we shall have the true faith and shall not go atray.

 

[JP_Marat]

This is coming from a Jew who accepts Jesus as Messiah but not as God:

*I have been thinking of our conversation about the Trinity, and I would like to ask you this:

Does Yahusha have a God?

I think your answer is going to be, “no He is God”.

In which case, I am going to respond and say:
If He is God, then who is He stating to be His God when He says,
"I have not yet ascended to the Father; but go to my brethren (disciples), and say to them, 'I ascend to my Father and your Father, and my God and your God." (John 20: 17).*

So what say you regarding this?

How do I answer this?

Thanks

Also, if you have time, please look at my other two questions on this matter:
Who’s Name is Yahweh?
Two Questions about Jesus’ Divinity and the Trinity

RESPONSE:

Actually, Matthew, Mark, and Luke (and Peter in Acts of the Apostles) acccepted Jesus as the Messiah, but not as divine himself. If that is the case, all your questions are answered.

Jews generally do not accept Jesus as the messiah becasue Jesus didn’t fulfill major Old Testament messianic prophecies.

 

[kamalayka9]

All throughout the Old Testament, there is only One who saves- GOD.

The constant message throughout the entire OT, from Genesis to Malachi-Nobody can save but **God **alone.

It is only logical that the Messiah, the Savior, is God.