How do i deal with my parent's decision?

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When you say you live in the Phillipines, that does give a different light.

Many of us answer from the standard US American POV, it seems you many have cultural differences here as well.

I agree, speak to your Priest.
Yes, that puts things in perspective.

To the OP, your mother sounds abusive. Hang in there. You’re only 18, things will get better!. God Bless you.

Just remember, it’s your mother’s problem, she never learned to control her anger and has been victimizing her family with it. Don’t let it define you, keep in mind that it is abuse and gradually work out a plan to extricate yourself from it. Your redemption will come in how your own life unfolds. Meanwhile, offer it up to Jesus.
 
Above poster took the three questions out of my mouth -

I’d add one more - did you flat out lie to your folks?

“Honey, are you dating anyone”

“No, mom”

Perhaps the punishment is for dishonesty?
Am I reading something wrong? From her post, it appeared to me that she answered honestly when asked…

I think you’re right about the cultural differences. And it seems as if there is quite a busybody of an aunt interfering here.
 
In some ways I have a lot of similarities to you. I have a verbally abusive, bad tempered, controlling mom and a dad who is more reasonable who lets my mom control everything. When I was in college there were lots of fights between my mom and me. Basically I lived at home but went to school on full scholarship. I also worked part time all four years and saved up my money to buy a car and then move out. I didn’t end up moving out until a couple of months before I graduated, but I wish I had moved out sooner.

My mom liked to threaten me with pulling me out of school too. And like you, I did very well academically…she just wanted to control everything about my life, so that was one of the first things she wanted to go. She also was always threatening to kick me out…

Sometimes I broke the rules, sometimes I stretched the truth, but a lot of the time it was just my mom overreacting to everything. For instance, once I took my little sisters shopping with me for clothes and we found a cute skirt. It reached exactly to the kneecap. Well, we tried the clothes on for my mom and she started screaming at me because I was making the girls immodest. She wanted to kick me out that day.

People like that aren’t reasonable and they don’t change. My mom is still as stubborn and occasionally as vicious as she was then. The best thing for me was to move out as soon as I could and to limit my contact with her. We still don’t have a good relationship, but at least she is no longer in control of my life.

I have no problem with a parent making rules. I think there should be rules for young children as well as college kids. But the rules should be reasonable and the consequences should also be reasonable. As soon as it becomes a mom throwing a temper tantrum and threatening to mess up a child’s future as a punishment (pulling them out of university, kicking them out) for a relatively minor offense, if any (buying a skirt, having a chaste relationship with a guy), then the parent has crossed the line.

Your mom isn’t going to stop doing this, so you have to decide at what point will your mom push you away and at what time will you make your stand. You’re going to have to at some point. Yeah, you’ll be scared to death of your mom, but you’ll be able to. It’s a step that I hope I’ll never force my children to take, but it’s one that I had to.

I suggest that you get a job, save up and move out.
 
If you are living in the Phillipines, well, that explains some things- but begs more questions.

First- I meant “going all the way”. If my daughter did that, I’d be upset. if it was a photograph of a hug, being born and bred American, I’d shrug it off. As you did not do so, I can’t understand why your mother is upset.

I’d esp. shrug it off if one of my sisters said anything. I don’t understand why your aunt is interfering in your business. This just keeps getting deeper and deeper.

You say you are living in the Phillipines at present. Does that mean you are actually the citizen of another country? Could you get together the plane fare to go back to your own country, if that’s the case, particualrly if you are a US or Canadian citizen?
 
Your parents are abusing you weather they realize it or not. They have serious control issues that need to be addressed. You’re 18 it’s time to take control of you own life and stand up for yourself. If you parents can’t accept you making your own decisions then you need to move out and maybe delay school till you can pay for it yourself. They will only get worse and demand more control as time goes by. Seriously I urge you to think about this. Leave the doors of communication open but demand the respect you deserve. 👍
 
A dual citizenship…Dutch/Filipina. I lived most of my life in Europe.

My dad told me this morning that they would talk to me later so i should be ready to reconcile with them. According to him, what’s going through my mother’s head is that i made a bad decision of studying but at the same time having a boyfriend thus disrespecting them.

I meant no disrespect at all…

:confused:
 
Some cultures believe that not asking parents’ permission to marry or enter into a relationship which leads there disrespects them. Generally, parents shouldn’t be cut out of the information path, but at the same time, “behind my back,” sounds a bit as if you had to subject your choice of future husband to your mother’s decision. That is not the case: you decide whom you will marry. Your parents cannot arrange your marriage, nor can they prevent you from marrying someone you love. At this early stage, where you are not marrying but simply seeing someone, it’s a bit trickier, but I still believe they’re overreacting.

I can’t tell whether your mother is upset because you didn’t tell her (leaving you the right to decide on seeing a young man) or because you made such a decision without asking her permission. At any rate, you do not need anyone’s permission to have certain feelings and given that you are legally adult, you are not subject to heavily interfering choices made by other people trying to police your life.

As I see it, you didn’t do anything wrong - except maybe in your given situation it might have been less than considerate to keep your parents from knowing about your boyfriend - but what your parents are doing now seems to be a big problem. As has been said, they can cut off your funding, they could probably even demand that you not go to university or else they will cut off something else etc, but they cannot expect to impose on you a morally binding obligation not to go to university. That kind of authority they don’t have.

You need to learn to deal with your mother and giving in to her demands is not the answer. Allowing her to impose guilt on you is not an answer either. If you’re going to comply with her requests out of obedience or simply because you have to (because you depend on your parents), that’s one thing. But if she’s trying to rule your conscience, she’s going too far. You shouldn’t allow yourself to hang in the air taking guesses as to what you might have possibly done wrong.
 
Nah, almost all aid is conditional - and should be. Unconditional love and support looks good on paper, like communism looks good on paper. But how it works out in reality…
You could say the same about love and charity too.
No, your parents do not OWE you an education. The world needs ditch diggers and hamburger flippers too. ( btw, I am a ditch digger. )
Actually, at least in some jurisdictions they legally do. For example, where I live parents are obliged to pay child support for any of their children who is studying up until the age of 25. When the child is not legally adult and is obliged to attend school, parents able but not willing to offer the necessary funding will risk running into problems with social security agents.

And let’s not get started on the legality of curfews imposed on legal adults or the legal nature of emotional blackmail, tantrums and guilt tactics.
I can offer the OP a shoulder to cry on, but that’s about it.
The only girl I ever had any realistic prospect of marrying - she was crazy about me - her parents objected to me. That was enough, case closed.
I wouldn’t marry any woman asking her parents permission to me in any sense implying that she would abide by a refusal. That would mean she weren’t able to make her decisions for the rest of her life.

Actually, I’ve been in a situation similar to yours, except the girl wasn’t so crazy about me, at least not at that point. Long story short, parental permission was a necessary part of the equation. I saw things in a different light back then (getting a kick because i was Catholic, my actual bad traits being exaggerated etc), but right now I’m very happy that I’m free from that situation. I certainly don’t want to be with anyone whose marrying choices depend on parental permission. Not any more.
And no, I didn’t like it. I was heartbroken.But I think parents have a near- absolute right to dictate their childrens associations to any degree.
No, they don’t. For example, even if I concede that they have a lot of right to cut off certain problematic friends and prevent early dating, guarding their children from impurity of all kinds (sex, alcohol, vulgarity…), they have no right to impose any friends or especially boyfriends or girlfriends on an unwilling child, arrange marriages etc.
If the children don’t like it, fine, that is their right. They can hit the road without a cent.
Hardly. That’s not true legally and I can’t see how it should be true morally.
You don’t know the parents, you don’t know their context, you don’t know the why’s and wherefore’s. The one assumption you can make generally is that they care more about their household than you ever will, and they know more about it than you ever will.
That is true, however. I will also add that parents generally know a lot more about their children’s relationship compatibility than the children themselves. And they have a ton of experience. However, their authority serves a purpose. It’s not a privilege, much less a toy. Hoarding control for the sake of it is not right on the children.
 
It may be the case that your mother is having a hard time letting go of you as her child so you can become your own adult. I find it interesting that the alleged offense, your having a boyfriend, is a natural part of you growing into adulthood, and the imposed punishment, suspension of your education, has the effect of delaying your progress into adulthood.
 
Your parents are abusing you weather they realize it or not. They have serious control issues that need to be addressed. You’re 18 it’s time to take control of you own life and stand up for yourself. If you parents can’t accept you making your own decisions then you need to move out and maybe delay school till you can pay for it yourself. They will only get worse and demand more control as time goes by. Seriously I urge you to think about this. Leave the doors of communication open but demand the respect you deserve. 👍
Though not an exact parallel, the story of St Joseph set a good example concerning conflicts in the family. His betrothed wife Mary was pregnant before they could live together. All facts pointed to one thing: betrayal. Had he posted this problem to CAF then, I bet 100% of posters will advise him to leave Mary or even stone her (in accordance with cultural standards).
St Joseph’s story cry out with:
  • Obedience
  • Sacrifice
  • Mercy
  • Reconciliation
  • Perseverance
  • Humility
  • Acceptance
  • Unity
    Could it be that the responses in this thread are borne out of a society steeped in individual freedom and pride and possibly shaped by contemporary secular values?
 
I wish I could be more welcoming Masada, and I hope you stay at CAF. But as far as I can see, your post is comparing apples and oranges.

There is a** big** difference between Roman-provincial Judiasm in 3BC-6AD, and 21st Century Netherlands and the Phillipines!

We are talking about a young woman of college age who lives in the 21st century, and has a boyfriend, both of whom are remaining chaste (Sarah). Her mother is angry, not her boyfriend, because Sarah did not tell her parents she had a boyfriend. Instead of realizing Sarah is 18 and in college, for whatever reason, her mother does not want her to go back to school for a semester as a punishment. She faces a variety of choices, with a variety of consequences. One of them might be to move out, but to do so in the Phillipines is an almost impossibility. Another might be to accept her mother’s dictate, but that might cause more problems within the household, as Sarah will have to be present with her mother for 3 months. Still another possibility is that Sarah get her passport, either from her father or the Netherlands consulate, and go back to Europe. Still another is that her father can get her mother’s emotions in check and Sarah will be able to return to school with a better understanding of what her mother expects- as not having a boyfriend was not a condition to attending university when Sarah started.

We are **not **talking about a ketubah, or Jewish marriage contract, and somebody turning up suddenly pregnant due to espousal to the Holy Spirit (Mary). Joseph’s obedience, in accepting Mary into his home, was not to his mother, but to God. Further, Mary did nothing wrong. There is no perceived reconciliation!

And no, everybody does not recommend that people leave their families, that husbands leave their wives, that children leave their parents. I could come up with three threads just off the top of my head where I can remember people were told to stick things out. Not everybody here said Sarah should move out. I, for one, hope her dad can smooth things out a bit. I further pointed in several questions of mine to Sarah that there were things to consider should she attempt to move out.

However, where there is abuse, yes, people recommend that in abusive situations, individuals get out- to preserve their lives, or to preserve their sanity, or both. The Church does not even mandate that abused spouses or children stay in situations of physical or extreme mental abuse. Further, where there is a marriage (and this is **not **even close to a marriage!), where one of the spouses has behaved so badly that the spouse in question does not want to retrieve the marriage (as in the case of the poor young man whose wife preferred women and had relations with them, or a putative husband who’s already made a second family in his gifrlfriend and their new baby), then yes, it’s time to protect oneself and one’s children with a civil divorce, and petition for a decree of nullity.

And I, for one, am tired of hearing about how bad it is to be independent! That is usually a segue into how horrible developed nations are for encouraging independence, how indepdence is a sin, and that usually (not always) leads into a trashing of the US, the UK, Canada, and Australia. It is not a sin to be independent. It is not a sin for a legal adult in any culture to pack up, for whatever reason, and leave home, as long as sin does not result from that legal adult’s lifestyle in leaving home. The United States was founded by a lot of people who left home- and so was Canada, and Australia.

I hope you won’t judge me too harshly, and I hope my words did not antagonize you.
 
I wish I could be more welcoming Masada, and I hope you stay at CAF. But as far as I can see, your post is comparing apples and oranges.

There is a** big** difference between Roman-provincial Judiasm in 3BC-6AD, and 21st Century Netherlands and the Phillipines!

We are talking about a young woman of college age who lives in the 21st century, and has a boyfriend, both of whom are remaining chaste (Sarah). Her mother is angry, not her boyfriend, because Sarah did not tell her parents she had a boyfriend. Instead of realizing Sarah is 18 and in college, for whatever reason, her mother does not want her to go back to school for a semester as a punishment. She faces a variety of choices, with a variety of consequences. One of them might be to move out, but to do so in the Phillipines is an almost impossibility. Another might be to accept her mother’s dictate, but that might cause more problems within the household, as Sarah will have to be present with her mother for 3 months. Still another possibility is that Sarah get her passport, either from her father or the Netherlands consulate, and go back to Europe. Still another is that her father can get her mother’s emotions in check and Sarah will be able to return to school with a better understanding of what her mother expects- as not having a boyfriend was not a condition to attending university when Sarah started.

We are **not **talking about a ketubah, or Jewish marriage contract, and somebody turning up suddenly pregnant due to espousal to the Holy Spirit (Mary). Joseph’s obedience, in accepting Mary into his home, was not to his mother, but to God. Further, Mary did nothing wrong. There is no perceived reconciliation!

And no, everybody does not recommend that people leave their families, that husbands leave their wives, that children leave their parents. I could come up with three threads just off the top of my head where I can remember people were told to stick things out. Not everybody here said Sarah should move out. I, for one, hope her dad can smooth things out a bit. I further pointed in several questions of mine to Sarah that there were things to consider should she attempt to move out.

However, where there is abuse, yes, people recommend that in abusive situations, individuals get out- to preserve their lives, or to preserve their sanity, or both. The Church does not even mandate that abused spouses or children stay in situations of physical or extreme mental abuse. Further, where there is a marriage (and this is **not **even close to a marriage!), where one of the spouses has behaved so badly that the spouse in question does not want to retrieve the marriage (as in the case of the poor young man whose wife preferred women and had relations with them, or a putative husband who’s already made a second family in his gifrlfriend and their new baby), then yes, it’s time to protect oneself and one’s children with a civil divorce, and petition for a decree of nullity.

And I, for one, am tired of hearing about how bad it is to be independent! That is usually a segue into how horrible developed nations are for encouraging independence, how indepdence is a sin, and that usually (not always) leads into a trashing of the US, the UK, Canada, and Australia. It is not a sin to be independent. It is not a sin for a legal adult in any culture to pack up, for whatever reason, and leave home, as long as sin does not result from that legal adult’s lifestyle in leaving home. The United States was founded by a lot of people who left home- and so was Canada, and Australia.

I hope you won’t judge me too harshly, and I hope my words did not antagonize you.
Likewise, I too hope my post did not antagonize some sensibilities, especially those who have accepted the ‘rugged individualism’ of most of us in the western thinking.
My heart goes out to OP but my spirit can hear a different drum among the posters who are supposed to offer ‘advise that are Christ-based’.
When Christ lamented the Pharisaical adherence to formal purity, he did not mean it is ok to be abused but rather hinted a more forbearing attitude towards love of fellow men.
 
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