How do I deal with ungrateful relatives

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Thank you for sharing your story, I agree with you completely.

I totally understand the rudeness and disrespect as I raised and am raising many children. However it has been my experience that generally the worst behavior is thrust on the parents. Just like your example of the towels and I can think of many from my own life and family, it is usually in the home and with close family where most conflict arises.

My shock, I guess was that others thought this rather “routine” behavior for a somewhat distant person/relative. Most teens that I know are not like that, meaning swearing deliberately and being nasty and abusive.
You’re right that most kids act out the most with their own nuclear family. But some kids are better behaved at home and are horrible toward their teachers. And some are just horrible to everyone. My sister swore for years into her adulthood that our aunts “didn’t like her” because one of them told her to quit rolling her eyes when she was being obnoxious at 13. The somewhat extreme behavior of the kid in the OP suggests to me that he might have some social issues in addition to just being 13.
 
Thirteen years old is a tough age and maybe the boy hasn’t been taught the best manners. When I was 13 I certainly wouldn’t have thought to thank someone who took me somewhere. I would have thought that the fact that I went with them showed I liked it and that was enough. I think at some point in time he will remember that you did nice things for him, but I wouldn’t count on it happening any time soon.
 
Thirteen years old is a tough age and maybe the boy hasn’t been taught the best manners. When I was 13 I certainly wouldn’t have thought to thank someone who took me somewhere. I would have thought that the fact that I went with them showed I liked it and that was enough. I think at some point in time he will remember that you did nice things for him, but I wouldn’t count on it happening any time soon.
True. And a lot of kids, since they really have never been taught any better, just assume that all adults like doing things for kids, and that it’s just going to happen - it doesn’t occur to them that adults are going out of their way and making a special effort on their behalf.
 
Thirteen years old is a tough age and maybe the boy hasn’t been taught the best manners. When I was 13 I certainly wouldn’t have thought to thank someone who took me somewhere. I would have thought that the fact that I went with them showed I liked it and that was enough. I think at some point in time he will remember that you did nice things for him, but I wouldn’t count on it happening any time soon.
One of the reasons 13 years old can be a tough age is that sometimes when 13 year olds feel as if their opinions are totally ignored they don’t know how to cope with it in a constructive manner. They haven’t learned how to self-advocate in a way that is both polite and firm. Sometimes, their parents give them no options that are both polite and firm. It is either “do what I say” or nothing. That is tough when you have started to gain an appropriate sense of independence and know that there is a degree to which it is OK when what you want and your parents think you “ought to” want are two very different things. They can make you do what they want, but it is understandable that a 13 year old might find a way to say, “this is what THEY want, not what I want, so let’s have no confusion on that point.” Putting an outside adult into the middle of that with no warning is not a nice thing to do, whether that adult is lending tutoring, coaching, a ride, or just supervision. (The worst is leading the adult to believe the child* wants* to be a helper for some group project when in fact the parent wants the adult as a supervisor/babysitter/warden for their out-of-control child, but that is a rant I will leave for elsewhere.)

I would actually be concerned that the young man was a puke because this trip was not his idea and he felt insulted because he was being “foisted off” on a young relative. The young fellow had birthday money to spend. Maybe he resented that neither his parents nor grandparents nor anyone else he craved some time with was willing to part with the one-on-one time with him to enjoy his birthday treat with him. He could have felt that his birthday was seen as too much of an imposition on his parents to be spent with him, and punished his older cousin for it for the “sin” of being complicit with their “neglect.”

I would actually ask him about that. I’d say, “were you mad at me when we went out on your birthday?” If he said no, I could say, “well, you were swearing all the time and never thanked me, so I thought maybe there was more to the story than I knew. It was supposed to be a good time for you, the day you got a treat to celebrate your birthday. Usually when you enjoy your time with someone, you don’t swear at them and you naturally say, ‘thank you, I hope we can do this again some time’ when you’re done. I don’t want to be the manners police; I just want to make sure there wasn’t something about that whole set-up that I didn’t know about. I care about whether you are nice to me, but I also care about whether or not you had a good time to celebrate your birthday. Do you see what I mean?”

If he said, “yes,” then I’d tell him I’d rather he be direct and tell me what was bothering him rather than just being generally abusive, because I can’t do anything to make a situation better when I don’t know what is wrong in the first place. For instance, we could have gone back to his parents place and not spent his money doing something he didn’t want to do.

He might come away looking at the situation differently or he might not, but he might realize that he was punishing someone else who could have maybe helped for something that he or she did not cause. He might realize that the cousin actually would take his side if he didn’t like the way his birthday treat was working out. He didn’t have to resign himself to a waste of money or spend the whole time brooding over the waste or take his frustration out on an innocent party.

Oh, and by the way, do talk to him as if he were a young man who rightly has opinions of his own, whether or not they are realistic, and not automatically a rebellious little kid who deserves no sympathy at all whenever he doesn’t agree with his parents. Respect of that kind is not wasted on the young.
 
(The worst is leading the adult to believe the child* wants* to be a helper for some group project when in fact the parent wants the adult as a supervisor/babysitter/warden for their out-of-control child, but that is a rant I will leave for elsewhere.)

**Oh dear me, yes.

I had a somewhat less serious version of that a few years back when I was looking for a babysitter when we had just had a baby and the church secretary recommended her highschooler daughter that needed to earn money.

I have had so many excellent sitters of roughly the same age that were really enthusiastic and engaged with entertaining kids, but this girl just sat there like a bump on a log.

It took me a while later before it finally dawned on me that the church secretary was the one that wanted her daughter to work, and the daughter herself was not that interested.
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I agree, 13 year old boys are a horrible bunch! I once has a neat poem called “How you you love a 13 year old” and it described it like trying to pick up a broken egg on the floor with your hands, a very very hard thing to do.

My oldest was ADDH and he was civil and kind and remembered to say please and thank you. His friends always thanked me when I gave them a ride somewhere or picked them up. ALWAYS they thanked me. Had they not thanked me, the rides would have ended quickly.

A child/teen who curses at you and is rude and childish is that way because he/she has been allowed to do that.
If a 13 year old child cursed at me whilst I was doing him a favor by taking him into town, well, that would have been the end, I would have immediately returned home with him. I would have kindly explained why he was going home.

Any child/teen who is allowed to act like an *** will continue to act that way as long as the adults in his/her life allow him/her to act this way.

Most kids like this really and truly are begging for someone to love them enough to put their foot down and help them to act properly. You need to outline your expectations for his behavior and he needs to know what you expect. You also need to let him know that for every action, there is a reaction or a consequence. Good actions get good consequences, and bad actions get bad ones.
 
I agree, 13 year old boys are a horrible bunch! I once has a neat poem called “How you you love a 13 year old” and it described it like trying to pick up a broken egg on the floor with your hands, a very very hard thing to do.

My oldest was ADDH and he was civil and kind and remembered to say please and thank you. His friends always thanked me when I gave them a ride somewhere or picked them up. ALWAYS they thanked me. Had they not thanked me, the rides would have ended quickly.

A child/teen who curses at you and is rude and childish is that way because he/she has been allowed to do that.
If a 13 year old child cursed at me whilst I was doing him a favor by taking him into town, well, that would have been the end, I would have immediately returned home with him. I would have kindly explained why he was going home.

Any child/teen who is allowed to act like an *** will continue to act that way as long as the adults in his/her life allow him/her to act this way.

Most kids like this really and truly are begging for someone to love them enough to put their foot down and help them to act properly. You need to outline your expectations for his behavior and he needs to know what you expect. You also need to let him know that for every action, there is a reaction or a consequence. Good actions get good consequences, and bad actions get bad ones.
Well-said! I do not think adults give children enough credit – they can and do act properly when expected to do so. Far too often these days excuses are made as to why children “can’t” do something. Adults do children no favors when we excuse their behaviors.
 
I agree, 13 year old boys are a horrible bunch! I once has a neat poem called “How you you love a 13 year old” and it described it like trying to pick up a broken egg on the floor with your hands, a very very hard thing to do.

My oldest was ADDH and he was civil and kind and remembered to say please and thank you. His friends always thanked me when I gave them a ride somewhere or picked them up. ALWAYS they thanked me. Had they not thanked me, the rides would have ended quickly.

A child/teen who curses at you and is rude and childish is that way because he/she has been allowed to do that.
If a 13 year old child cursed at me whilst I was doing him a favor by taking him into town, well, that would have been the end, I would have immediately returned home with him. I would have kindly explained why he was going home.

Any child/teen who is allowed to act like an *** will continue to act that way as long as the adults in his/her life allow him/her to act this way.

Most kids like this really and truly are begging for someone to love them enough to put their foot down and help them to act properly. You need to outline your expectations for his behavior and he needs to know what you expect. You also need to let him know that for every action, there is a reaction or a consequence. Good actions get good consequences, and bad actions get bad ones.
This is a very good post.
 
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