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How do I explain that God having a right to take our lives because He is the creator of life doesn't mean that might makes right?
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bilop
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Because it’s not might that gives God the right, it’s creation and ownership.
He created us, and he owns us.
God Bless
He created us, and he owns us.
God Bless
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ASimon
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And why does that make it right?
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bilop
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Because our continued existence requires an act of will on God’s part. God is not arbitrary, He set up a “system” and abides by it.
All humans are mortal, we must die, and yet our souls are immortal, they never die, and we have the Free Will to choose to love and serve God, or reject him, and He never overrides that will.
God choosing the time of our inevitable death, or leaving it up to chance, seems to be completely His perogative.
Why would it be wrong? How can the creator be wrong in determining the fate of his creation?
If a great artist paints a painting, and then decides it’s terrible, and destroys it to re-use the canvas, has he committed a wrong? No, his creation is 100% his to do with as he pleases. Same with God.
God Bless
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ASimon
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The artist destroying the painting is not wrong because the painting has no capacity to suffer for being destroyed. People do have the capacity to suffer, and ownership of people is immoral in the first place.
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Needtostop
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Thanks that should make it easy to explain.
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bilop
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You can die instantly with no suffering. If God let’s you suffer at your death, it is for a purpose.
Ownership of people by other people is usually immoral, ownership by God is inevitable. He can no more cease to own us, than a human can cease to be the parent of a child.
God Bless
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Gorillaman
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Might does make right, no one denies that. But the problem with man is that we think we have any kind of might…we don’t.
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Gods_Peace
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Facepalm since when are fallen human beings the author of what is right? It’s right becuase God said it is, and God is the ultimate author of morality.
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Gods_Peace
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Ownership over people is not immoral, ESPECIALLY BY GOD. You just do not know how high and mighty God TRUELY IS! Your pride holds you down, it limits you and restrains you.
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Julia_Mae
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God doesn’t take our lives, He brings us Home. God is of perfect love and knowledge and knows the precise moment that this should happen for our greatest advantage.
Everyone else keep your hands to yourself.
The most terrible thing about ending someone’s life here on earth is that we totally ignore God and go against His perfect plan for us all. Ending physical life per se is not a big deal, but the timing could mean the difference in saving or losing a soul - or two.
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PJM
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HOW abouth this:=Needtostop;9412482]
Isa.43 Verses 7**and **21: “every one who is called by my name, whom I created for my glory, whom I formed and made." AND the people whom I formed for myself that they might declare my praise.”
With this UNDERSTANDING:
**Isa.29: 16 **” You turn things upside down! Shall the potter be regarded as the clay; that the thing made should say of its maker, “He did not make me”; or the thing formed say of him who formed it, “He has no understanding”?
**Isa.64: 8 **“Yet, O LORD, thou art our Father; we are the clay, and thou art our potter; we are all the work of thy hand.”
God is OUR Creator; does he NOT as such have RIGHTS:shrug:
ALSO God is THEE [only] Sustainer of LIFE!
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Trishie
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If someone you know has sadly suffered the loss of a loved one, may God console them.
God did not cause the death, but God’s final mercy will have been offered that soul in desire to welcome that soul into heaven
http://forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=4180049
bible.ca/f-death-why-did-god-kill-my-loved-one.htm
I don’t endorse all on this page, but some things are stated that I do agree with.
Some thoughts of my own.
Of course, we all must die sooner or later. Sometimes sooner is kinder, other times not.
God doesn’t create earthquakes etc. The geography and geology of the earth does. The earth has a molten core. The continental plates have edges. And humans have compromised the health of the planet in many ways.
God doesn’t create cancer cells. We pollute our atmosphere, contaminate our food sources, we eat the wrong foods laced with additives and dangerous fats. We succumb to stress, and a whole range of things we do over time can even damage our genes and sometimes we pass on those damaged genes to our descendants.
Rattlesnakes developed their protection against predators and in order to kill prey, as have so many creatures by camouflage, by developing scales, horns etc, by developing poisons (and not only animals but also leaves of many trees)in order to protect themselves from predation.
God doesn’t cause accidents, humans do, God doesn’t cause illnesses, but quite often we do, however obscurely.
A great many things that humans blame God for, are caused in some form or other by humans.
God did not cause the death, but God’s final mercy will have been offered that soul in desire to welcome that soul into heaven
http://forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?p=4180049
bible.ca/f-death-why-did-god-kill-my-loved-one.htm
I don’t endorse all on this page, but some things are stated that I do agree with.
Some thoughts of my own.
Of course, we all must die sooner or later. Sometimes sooner is kinder, other times not.
God doesn’t create earthquakes etc. The geography and geology of the earth does. The earth has a molten core. The continental plates have edges. And humans have compromised the health of the planet in many ways.
God doesn’t create cancer cells. We pollute our atmosphere, contaminate our food sources, we eat the wrong foods laced with additives and dangerous fats. We succumb to stress, and a whole range of things we do over time can even damage our genes and sometimes we pass on those damaged genes to our descendants.
Rattlesnakes developed their protection against predators and in order to kill prey, as have so many creatures by camouflage, by developing scales, horns etc, by developing poisons (and not only animals but also leaves of many trees)in order to protect themselves from predation.
God doesn’t cause accidents, humans do, God doesn’t cause illnesses, but quite often we do, however obscurely.
A great many things that humans blame God for, are caused in some form or other by humans.
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Aeden
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God made us out of love and pure charity. He had no obligation to do so. Anything you can give, you can take, it is that simple. For example, you give a child a toy to play with and and he LOVES his toy. At any given point, however, as you gave him the toy, you can take it away, let him keep it or let him lose it by chance.
However, this explanation is not quite accurate, in the toy example, the toy exists independently from you. With life, God made and SUSTAINS our lives through his own charity. He allows us to live, even when we displease or hurt Him, even the men who crucified Him. He sustains our life, and He, in His infinite wisdom gets to decide when we move on and how it happens.
However, this explanation is not quite accurate, in the toy example, the toy exists independently from you. With life, God made and SUSTAINS our lives through his own charity. He allows us to live, even when we displease or hurt Him, even the men who crucified Him. He sustains our life, and He, in His infinite wisdom gets to decide when we move on and how it happens.
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Needtostop
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An ownership of people by God is not immoral because God is so much greater than us. We a re not equal to Him.
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Needtostop
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