How do I navigate a Traditional relationship?

[Hannah75]

thanks Liza In fact, I didn’t notice who it was from and was prepared to answer the question. Here’s a link: en.allexperts.com/q/Orthodox-Judiasm-952/Stoning.htm and if you google Orthodox + stoning you will find several news articles.

So it has been decided that I will help him take care of his kids. The children, except for one, are at the age of curiousness. Though they know I am Jewish, I have to field any questions.

Yes, seven is a magic number in Judiasm.

Though that list was written by someone many consider to be an expert (my bf told me that he said I would convert if I read this man’s work) I would question what’s on the list.

For example, how can Adam and Eve be a representation of marraige. God did make Eve as a companion from Adam, but she ate the apple from the Tree of Life. That’s kind of a bummer in a relationship. So I don’t know.

Noah was also a sinner. Despite the ark, his life wasn’t so great and I don’t see how he can be representative of anything. I’d have to look in my Bible to find out what exactly Noah was like, but I think it wasn’t so hot. And when I think of Noah, I think of progeny.

Why is David representative of Kingdom? Why not Solomon?

Moses wasn’t even allowed into Canaan. How can he be considered 12 tribes. He didn’t make the 12 tribes of Israel if I remember my Bible right. I think it was Jacob and Joshua—one of them—who’s sons went on to be the 12 tribes. I don’t know, again I’d have to look it up.

And, if Christ isn’t 7… Then how can he be the Messiah? If we’re all sitting around waiting for something new?

Skeptical Hannah.

 

[jen_fla]

Jen - this is off topic from her thread. Please do not hijack her conversation with your own questions. You can always ask in the non-Catholic forum, I’m sure many there would be happy to help you.

~Liza

you are right. i should and do know better. my apologies. :tiphat:

 

[jen_fla]

thanks Liza In fact, I didn’t notice who it was from and was prepared to answer the question. Here’s a link: en.allexperts.com/q/Orthodox-Judiasm-952/Stoning.htm and if you google Orthodox + stoning you will find several news articles.

So it has been decided that I will help him take care of his kids. The children, except for one, are at the age of curiousness. Though they know I am Jewish, I have to field any questions.

Yes, seven is a magic number in Judiasm.

Though that list was written by someone many consider to be an expert (my bf told me that he said I would convert if I read this man’s work) I would question what’s on the list.

For example, how can Adam and Eve be a representation of marraige. God did make Eve as a companion from Adam, but she ate the apple from the Tree of Life. That’s kind of a bummer in a relationship. So I don’t know.

Noah was also a sinner. Despite the ark, his life wasn’t so great and I don’t see how he can be representative of anything. I’d have to look in my Bible to find out what exactly Noah was like, but I think it wasn’t so hot. And when I think of Noah, I think of progeny.

Why is David representative of Kingdom? Why not Solomon?

Moses wasn’t even allowed into Canaan. How can he be considered 12 tribes. He didn’t make the 12 tribes of Israel if I remember my Bible right. I think it was Jacob and Joshua—one of them—who’s sons went on to be the 12 tribes. I don’t know, again I’d have to look it up.

And, if Christ isn’t 7… Then how can he be the Messiah? If we’re all sitting around waiting for something new?

Skeptical Hannah.

i wanted to apologize for bringing up a new topic in your thread, but like i said, i have been really fearful of offending anyone and you seem really easy to talk to so i just put it out there.

the link you sent didn’t send me to anything, but i’ll do further research on my own. again sorry.

you also wrote:

“In fact, I didn’t notice who it was from and was prepared to answer the question.”…

i hope you don’t think i’m some kind of trouble maker.

i’m going to back out of all this. i’m not a scholar on OT and can’t be of much help. i do wish you the best with everything and hope you and the man you love grow closer and closer over the years.

best,
jen

 

[Hietanen]

Hannah75

I hope for your conversion. You cannot as a Jew inherit eternal life since you reject the one whom redeemed you.

Pope Eugene IV, Council of Florence, “Cantate Domino,” 1441, ex cathedra:

“The Holy Roman Church firmly believes, professes and preaches that all those who are outside the Catholic Church, not only pagans but also Jews or heretics and schismatics, cannot share in eternal life and will go into the everlasting fire which was prepared for the devil and his angels, unless they are joined to the Church before the end of their lives; that the unity of this ecclesiastical body is of such importance that only those who abide in it do the Church’s sacraments contribute to salvation and do fasts, almsgiving and other works of piety and practices of the Christian militia productive of eternal rewards; and that nobody can be saved, no matter how much he has given away in alms and even if he has shed blood in the name of Christ, unless he has persevered in the bosom and unity of the Catholic Church.”

Mark 16:16 He that believeth and is baptized, shall be saved: but he that believeth not shall be condemned.

People that think Jews can be Saved believes in heresy. Dogmas never change, and Christ cannot lie.

 

[Insight]

“And, behold, one came and said unto him, Good Master, what good thing shall I do, that I may have eternal life? And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? [there is] none good but one, [that is], God: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments” (Matthew 19:16).

I highly recommend listening to these Mp3 files, particularly Bob Fishman (who retained all his Jewish tradition), they give a wonderful perspective of Catholicism from a Jewish viewpoint. This is some of the most powerful audio on the web, great stuff:

salvationisfromthejews.com/audioconverts.html

God Bless

 

[Jason_1977]

Hi,

I’m Jewish and my boyfriend of 2.5 years is a Traditional Catholic. I am faithful in my religion, and he is definitely faithful in his. He goes to Mass on Sundays (I’ve never been—should I go?). We both had the choice to be with one another. Of course, he could have found a Traditional Catholic woman to be with, and I, of course, could have found another Jew to be with, but life did not work out that way.

He knows a lot about Judiasm, but I know very little of Catholicism. I’m finding that our relationship now is having a difficulty because I don’t know what is expected of a Catholic woman. I thought I knew what was expected of me from my past relationships, but this one is just so different. We are moving to a more serious and deeper level, and I’d like to meet him on some of his own ground as he has met me so many times on my own. I’d like to share with him the way I pray and the way I read the Tanakh (I am currently reading: I Samuel) and about mitzvot. However, right now, I feel I must learn something of where he’s coming from. I don’t understand.

I read a little on Communion today. I hope to read something every day to deepen my knowledge of Catholic beliefs because of my interest, because of my honest feelings about faith and inter-faith relationships, and because I love him.

We are both decently on in our years and have had previous relationships, so it is not like this is “puppy-love” or about to disappear. I love him. And he loves me. We spend so much time together and do not argue so I feel this relationship is special and wonderful.

He has helped me in many ways. Being with him has made me a stronger and more generous person, and I hope that I have helped him by listening to him and caring for him in a deep way as well as helping him to do the things he needs to do to get through the dailyness of life (like buying pants or eating properly).

I guess my question is: how can I sustain this relationship? Would learning more about Catholicism help me? Would my new knowledge help him?

Thank You
Hannah

Do you have any twin sisters? LOL. Just be yourself & have a willingness to learn. Remember that relationships are like flowers. A flower may start as a bud on a stem or a branch. As time goes on, w. some sunshine & rain, the bud grows into a blossom, and with more time in the sun & more rain, the blossom blooms into a beautiful flower. It becomes what it was meant to be.

My point is that relationships, like a flower, have various stages of growth. It must take its course in due time because afterall, the purpose for time is so not everything happens at once. It’s very important to understand this because like a relationship, if you try to speed up the process or try to force something open, it falls apart in the palm of your hand.

I know you guys will make it. Good luck!!!