How do I object to a Catholic Wedding

[Hoosier_Daddy]

The OP would presumably know if he received an annulment. And if his wife were attempting to remarry in the church that is something the priest would need to know.

Fine. If the OP was married to the person and did not receive an annulment then ok. And there should be no problem finding out where this wedding is taking place as families and friends would be involved. The OP need only to contact them, the diocese or even the parish that they were married at. BUt you and I know this isn’t the case, you just want to argue…

 

[TomFromMD]

I am hesitant to reveal the details on this site, but suffice to say I know someone who should never be married in a Catholic Church. I have informed this person, but they refuse and the wedding is going ahead.

What do I do? I do not even know the parish which the wedding will take place, and by the time I find out, it may be too late.

You could call the Bishop’s office. That’s about it.

 

[808Catholic]

I am hesitant to reveal the details on this site, but suffice to say I know someone who should never be married in a Catholic Church. I have informed this person, but they refuse and the wedding is going ahead.

What do I do? I do not even know the parish which the wedding will take place, and by the time I find out, it may be too late.

It is not our place as laity (I presume you are not ordained) to cast aspersions upon anyone because we think they are sinners. We’re all sinners! If you know the priest, speak to him. If you know what Diocese, arrange to speak to the Bishop. If you don’t know these things, you don’t have enough information to even suggest they are going to be married in a Catholic church so I suggest discretion. Trust in the Church to do its job and definitely trust in God that He will know if they are deceiving His church. No good can come from evil.

 

[EasterJoy]

Pay attention to the OP. They did not give the reason why. And they said NEVER get married in the Catholic Church. Not, didn’t get an annulment yet. I don’t know why but for some reason I get the feeling that this is a sexuality issue.

Perhaps the OP can clarify the reason they think they know, until then, if they cannot even articulate the reason anonymously on the internet then I doubt there is any real substance here that warrants destroying a wedding day.

You know, I had a past. I had plenty of scored lovers when I got married. I am sure glad one of them didn’t decide to air their perceived objections.

But IF the OP has absolute knowledge. And IF the OP has no way of finding the wedding. Or if the OP does not even know the family or friends names enough to call them up to find out. I suppose the OP could call the Bishop and notify him of the problem. But that sure is a lot of ifs and the OP should probably examine his/herself a little closer. Introspection without emotion should be encouraged.

The OP said the person should never be married in the Catholic Church, not that they should never be allowed to marry anyone at all or in any denomination at all.

The short answer is that there is a right to marry, it is a serious right, and barring a canonical impediment already declared by the Church, the Church will defend the right to marry.
*Can. 1058 All persons who are not prohibited by law can contract marriage.
**Can. 1073 **A diriment impediment renders a person unqualified to contract marriage validly.
Can. 1075 §1. It is only for the supreme authority of the Church to declare authentically when divine law prohibits or nullifies marriage.
**§2. *Only the supreme authority has the right to establish other impediments for the baptized.
Can. 1076 A custom which introduces a new impediment or is contrary to existing impediments is reprobated.

The Church says:
Can. 1085 §1. A person bound by the bond of a prior marriage, even if it was not consummated, invalidly attempts marriage.
§2. Even if the prior marriage is invalid or dissolved for any reason, it is not on that account permitted to contract another before the nullity or dissolution of the prior marriage is established legitimately and certainly.

If the OP knows that some person has already contracted a marriage that must be presumed to be valid but that this prior marriage is being hidden from the Church, then that would be reason to try to intervene. If she thinks one spouse is deceiving the other spouse in order to obtain consent, that would be a reason to intervene. It must be something like that, though. The Church is not going to deny people their right to marry each other because some third party thinks the marriage is doomed to fail, not unless the third party can point to a canonical impediment.

 

[Hoosier_Daddy]

The OP said the person should never be married in the Catholic Church, not that they should never be allowed to marry anyone at all or in any denomination at all.

The short answer is that there is a right to marry, it is a serious right, and barring a canonical impediment already declared by the Church, the Church will defend the right to marry.
Can. 1058 All persons who are not prohibited by law can contract marriage.
**Can. 1073 **A diriment impediment renders a person unqualified to contract marriage validly.
Can. 1075 §1. It is only for the supreme authority of the Church to declare authentically when divine law prohibits or nullifies marriage.
**§2. **Only the supreme authority has the right to establish other impediments for the baptized.
Can. 1076 A custom which introduces a new impediment or is contrary to existing impediments is reprobated.

The Church says:
Can. 1085 §1. A person bound by the bond of a prior marriage, even if it was not consummated, invalidly attempts marriage.
§2. Even if the prior marriage is invalid or dissolved for any reason, it is not on that account permitted to contract another before the nullity or dissolution of the prior marriage is established legitimately and certainly.

If the OP knows that some person has already contracted a marriage that must be presumed to be valid but that this prior marriage is being hidden from the Church, then that would be reason to try to intervene. If she thinks one spouse is deceiving the other spouse in order to obtain consent, that would be a reason to intervene. It must be something like that, though. The Church is not going to deny people their right to marry each other because some third party thinks the marriage is doomed to fail, not unless the third party can point to a canonical impediment.

Boy, that is quite a leap…

But like I posted before. If the OP has this knowledge, then they have knowledge of where when and who. Family members friends and diocese. The OP can call the bishops office and say that the other party had homosexual relations with their brother for all I care. Without the OP providing more information it is all silly anyway and the OP should MYOB.

Or should we all start calling the priests of posters here who say… advocate things contrary to Church teaching…

 

[Hoosier_Daddy]

The OP is advocating sabotaging a wedding while refusing to divulge the info as to why which is odd because this is an anonymous forum and the OP themselves don’t even know when or where. Or even a single invited guest to this wedding apparently…

Until more information is given, all we can say is “have a nice day OP”

 

[Jeannie52]

It is not our place as laity (I presume you are not ordained) to cast aspersions upon anyone because we think they are sinners. We’re all sinners! If you know the priest, speak to him. If you know what Diocese, arrange to speak to the Bishop. If you don’t know these things, you don’t have enough information to even suggest they are going to be married in a Catholic church so I suggest discretion. Trust in the Church to do its job and definitely trust in God that He will know if they are deceiving His church. No good can come from evil.

Very well said.

 

[PolarGuy]

Why do I have the feeling that this is not a situation where, say, OP knows of some 100% impediment to marry, and more a case of, say, “I don’t think person x is fit to marry.” If so, butt out. Period.

Note also IMHO trying to put the kibosh on a wedding is very bad absent a REALLY good reason; and maybe personally dangerous: if someone tried to butt into a family members’ marriage, I’d be one mad hombre. It’s just…classless.

 

[underacloud]

I may be mistaken, but does anyone else have the memory that this poster has already asked this question on the forum before?

I checked their posting history and all but their last post is gone, suggesting their previous posts have all been deleted.

And *IF *my memory serves me, I think the advice given in the previous thread was predominantly along the lines of butt out. That remains the advice unless there is a clear canonical impediment, which again, if my memory serves me, there wasn’t.

If I am mistaken, I of course apologise.

 

[Anglewannabe]

but suffice to say I know someone who should never be married in a Catholic Church. I have informed this person, but they refuse and the wedding is going ahead.
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If the wedding is going ahead in a Catholic church, then it is safe to assume the priest did his due diligence (it is not for the laity to judge the priest). If the wedding is going on outside of the Catholic church, I am of the opinion ‘butt out’

 

[Allegra]

If you don’t know where the wedding is taking place, how do you know it’s going to be in a Catholic Church?

 

[Irishmom2]

I may be mistaken, but does anyone else have the memory that this poster has already asked this question on the forum before?

I checked their posting history and all but their last post is gone, suggesting their previous posts have all been deleted.

And *IF *my memory serves me, I think the advice given in the previous thread was predominantly along the lines of butt out. That remains the advice unless there is a clear canonical impediment, which again, if my memory serves me, there wasn’t.

If I am mistaken, I of course apologise.

I don’t know what the other posts were either, but only one post, the one on this thread is all that is available to be viewed. So you may be correct that the question was asked before and the answers got so bad the thread was pulled.