You massively underestimate free will and that certain things were written on our hearts from the beginning. Despite our darkened intellect from the fall, all men no matter how much sin they commit still enjoy doing good.Studying the bible in a vacuum. If god were truly everywhere on Earth you would never be in a vacuum. It would not be so simple to interpret the OT passages so incorrectly. Killing innocent children would be understandable with or without some one explaining context in fact the truth of it should be self evident.
I would say god could have started a bit sooner instead of standing by watching from the heavens for 96,000 years of human development, watching as his humans lived and died with very short life spans and nomadically moving around dying from diseases that they could not understand. Then 4000 years ago he decides now is a good time to start. Then 2000 years ago we just hadn’t quite got the messages so he reveals himself in one of the least educated areas. Yes I say there was room for improvement.What exactly would be the timeline you deemed correct? And not for anything it took a few thousand years for the fulfillment of God’s covenant with man to be completed in the Church, He established, the Catholic Church has Apostolic succession which means we have been replacing the office of the Apostles for the past 2,000 years. We have 266 successors from Saint Peter who have been shepherds the people of God in the New Covenant. We even have Peter! His remains are directly under the altar of Saint Peter’s Basilica in Rome. We have seen Daniel 7:17-28 play itself out, guess which church is headquartered in Rome?
Your presumption is that this life is better than the one with God after death. I reject that. As far as not getting the message, I reject that as well the people get the message if you understand salvation history. The people of God had to include the gentiles or else a lot of things wouldn’t make sense, the Kingdom of God is for every human being on this earth. Remember “pride commeth before the fall”, thinking you know better than God is why Satan was kicked out of heaven. God shows His might by working through the humble, least educated and the poor. It’s why 12 normal guys who were fishermen and carpenters and who were not part of the extremely learned Levitical priesthood ushered in the earthly Kingdom of God and not the really educated who had distain for the poor and the sick, especially for the spiritually poor and sick sinners and they believed the gentiles defiled them. If you ever visit poverty stricken third world countries, despite the extreme poverty they are generally happier than most American are. Cardinal O’Malley tells a story of when he was on a mission trip and his Capuchin Friars were handing out food to an extremely poor community in the Philippines and there was a young girl around 12 who waited in line for hours and when she got to the distribution table all that was left was a banana, everyone felt terrible however she assured them the banana would be just fine and sincerely thanked them for helping her community. She then proceeded to walk over to three younger children who were sitting under a tree nearby and she split the banana into three portions and licked the inside of the banana peel for herself. She had no formal education and lived in extreme poverty but she understands the Kingdom of God better than most ever will. Blessed are the meek and humbleI would say god could have started a bit sooner instead of standing by watching from the heavens for 96,000 years of human development, watching as his humans lived and died with very short life spans and nomadically moving around dying from diseases that they could not understand. Then 4000 years ago he decides now is a good time to start. Then 2000 years ago we just hadn’t quite got the messages so he reveals himself in one of the least educated areas. Yes I say there was room for improvement.
You are mistaken. I never said life was better now. I believe that life right now in the present is.Your presumption is that this life is better than the one with God after death. I reject that. As far as not getting the message, I reject that as well the people get the message if you understand salvation history. The people of God had to include the gentiles or else a lot of things wouldn’t make sense, the Kingdom of God is for every human being on this earth. Remember “pride commeth before the fall”, thinking you know better than God is why Satan was kicked out of heaven. God shows His might by working through the humble, least educated and the poor. It’s why 12 normal guys who were fishermen and carpenters and who were not part of the extremely learned Levitical priesthood ushered in the earthly Kingdom of God and not the really educated who had distain for the poor and the sick, especially for the spiritually poor and sick sinners and they believed the gentiles defiled them. If you ever visit poverty stricken third world countries, despite the extreme poverty they are generally happier than most American are. Cardinal O’Malley tells a story of when he was on a mission trip and his Capuchin Friars were handing out food to an extremely poor community in the Philippines and there was a young girl around 12 who waited in line for hours and when she got to the distribution table all that was left was a banana, everyone felt terrible however she assured them the banana would be just fine and sincerely thanked them for helping her community. She then proceeded to walk over to three younger children who were sitting under a tree nearby and she split the banana into three portions and licked the inside of the banana peel for herself. She had no formal education and lived in extreme poverty but she understands the Kingdom of God better than most ever will. Blessed are the meek and humble
Did you not state that God just sat around and watched humans live short lives and permitted them to be nomadic and die of diseases? To me that is emphasizing the temporal existence not the transcendent existence of man.You are mistaken. I never said life was better now. I believe that life right now in the present is.
Well he would have sat and watched for 96,000 years and billions before that. More i would be emphasizing the ridiculousness of the statement of how important the churches 2000 year history is compared to the history of man. Also the story of the girl sharing food is very inspiring and showing the innate attribute of caring for other humans.Did you not state that God just sat around and watched humans live short lives and permitted them to be nomadic and die of diseases? To me that is emphasizing the temporal existence not the transcendent existence of man.
2 Peter 3:8 8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.Well he would have sat and watched for 96,000 years and billions before that. More i would be emphasizing the ridiculousness of the statement of how important the churches 2000 year history is compared to the history of man. Also the story of the girl sharing food is very inspiring and showing the innate attribute of caring for other humans.
Greetings in our Lord,I constantly hear that the old testament is the story of an evil god by agnostics and atheists. I know they are wrong but I am not so knowledgeable about the old testament in general (BTW, I just started reading about the faith more often, but have never gotten an answer) , and don’t want to spread any falsehood.
This makes it no better actually it would aid in the indifference of it all.2 Peter 3:8 8 But do not forget this one thing, dear friends: With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.