How do protestants explain the 1500 year gap.

[spina1953]

We’ve registered almost 800 posts on something that didn’t happen.
I can’t remember, Spina, did you notice any protestants that did claim a 1,500 year gap?

Jon

Hi Jon: To tell the truth so far I am not sure that anyone has explained this 1500 year gap and to be truthful I really do not know exactly a 1500 year gap is? Do you have any answers that question? You maybe correct that in some 800 posts on this thread something didn’t happen?

 

[KjetilK]

To tell the truth so far I am not sure that anyone has explained this 1500 year gap

The problem is that the question is asked of ‘Protestants,’ as of that is a meaningful term. I am not the same as a baptist, and Lutheranism has never claimed that there were no continuity. Thus for a Lutheran there is no gap to be explained.

 

[JonNC]

Hi Jon: To tell the truth so far I am not sure that anyone has explained this 1500 year gap and to be truthful I really do not know exactly a 1500 year gap is? Do you have any answers that question? You maybe correct that in some 800 posts on this thread something didn’t happen?

Hi Spina,
Well the OP described it as, essentially, denying ancient documents, etc., even the writings of martyrs!

Originally Posted by **Adamski **
This was the real question I had in a previous thread that got derailed. Personally leaving my non denominational church and coming home to the Catholic Church if both had a solid answer from the bible I had to go with the catholic one because it was rooted in history such as the writings from the first three centuries after Christ.

When ever I show protestants of any kind writings such as the Didiache, polycarp, and ignatius of Antioch. They say “well false teachers were there from the beginning and I have the truth from the bible”. This had come from Lutherans to baptists

As for me, as most Lutherans would say, there has been no gap.

Jon

 

[spina1953]

The problem is that the question is asked of ‘Protestants,’ as of that is a meaningful term. I am not the same as a baptist, and Lutheranism has never claimed that there were no continuity. Thus for a Lutheran there is no gap to be explained.

I am thinking that the OP’s question maybe to general in that I think it depends on which denominations one belongs to and what beliefs they hold concerning it. I also think that Protestant is sometimes used in to broad of terms when in fact each Denomination has its own set of how one interprets religious beliefs and history.

I agree that a Lutheran is not the same as Baptist nor of anyone else for that matter. I am just not sure about what this gap means at least in terms of non-Catholic’s as they see it.

 

[spina1953]

Hi Spina,
Well the OP described it as, essentially, denying ancient documents, etc., even the writings of martyrs!

As for me, as most Lutherans would say, there has been no gap.

Jon

Hi Jon Thanks, I guess I missed that part of the OP’s question, So what then we are discussing is about the denying ancient documents etc. and even the writings of martyrs?

 

[GKC]

I am thinking that the OP’s question maybe to general in that I think it depends on which denominations one belongs to and what beliefs they hold concerning it. I also think that Protestant is sometimes used in to broad of terms when in fact each Denomination has its own set of how one interprets religious beliefs and history.

I agree that a Lutheran is not the same as Baptist nor of anyone else for that matter. I am just not sure about what this gap means at least in terms of non-Catholic’s as they see it.

I am thinking your post is pretty good.

GKC

 

[JonNC]

Hi Jon Thanks, I guess I missed that part of the OP’s question, So what then we are discussing is about the denying ancient documents etc. and even the writings of martyrs?

Well, yes, I think, in that it relates to the early Church. It seems to me there are some who claim Constantine apostacized the Church, so I guess that would account for a gap. That’s never been a Lutheran thing, and in fact Constantine is on our commemorations calendar, May 21st.

Jon

EDIT: So are Polycarp and Ignatius.

 

[spina1953]

I am thinking your post is pretty good.

GKC

Hi GKC: Thanks. I am just wanting to learn something about this Gap thing and how it applies to Protestants, yet, not Protestants in general but more of how one denomination or another views it.

 

[JonNC]

** I am thinking that the OP’s question maybe to general in that I think it depends on which denominations one belongs to and what beliefs they hold concerning it. I also think that Protestant is sometimes used in to broad of terms when in fact each Denomination has its own set of how one interprets religious beliefs and history.**

I agree that a Lutheran is not the same as Baptist nor of anyone else for that matter. I am just not sure about what this gap means at least in terms of non-Catholic’s as they see it.

I’m wondering why you didn’t post this 800 posts ago.

Jon

 

[GKC]

Hi GKC: Thanks. I am just wanting to learn something about this Gap thing and how it applies to Protestants, yet, not Protestants in general but more of how one denomination or another views it.

Well, listen to them protestants, when you find them. I haven’t a clue what they might be thinking.

GKC

 

[KathleenGee]

rags…

You are quoting the Bible passages up to the death of the apostles. So where is there any sign of any Church after the Bible???

And when was the Bible put together and who did it and how many people involved???

If you can get hold of a Catholic catechism, you will see how our morality is spelled out in living out the 10 commandments, Section 2 of ‘The Life of Christ’.

And about man being made in the image of God, #424 states: “Moved by the grace of the Holy Spirit and drawn to the Father, we believe in Jesus and confess: '‘You are the Christ, the Son of the Living God.’ On the rock of this faith confessed by S. Peter, Christ built His Church.” Do you believe this differently?

Where is the Church after the last page of Revelations?

How can you even prove the Church existed after the Bible was written and assembled…not until 1850 or something in the USA??, this the Remnant…Americans??

Thanks, Guanaphore…so the Seventh Day ADventists believe they are the remnant???
Will go back to read.

It is the Liturgy that opens up the Book of Revelations…

 

[spina1953]

I’m wondering why you didn’t post this 800 posts ago.

Jon

Hi Jon: I am not sure why I did not, but guess I am a little slow on the take at times.

 

[spina1953]

Well, listen to them protestants, when you find them. I haven’t a clue what they might be thinking.

GKC

Hi GKC: I am trying my best to listen to them Protestants but which ones as there are so many different kinds, and still I am not sure as to what they think, but some have I think said something.

 

[spina1953]

rags…

You are quoting the Bible passages up to the death of the apostles. So where is there any sign of any Church after the Bible???

And when was the Bible put together and who did it and how many people involved???

If you can get hold of a Catholic catechism, you will see how our morality is spelled out in living out the 10 commandments, Section 2 of ‘The Life of Christ’.

And about man being made in the image of God, #424 states: “Moved by the grace of the Holy Spirit and drawn to the Father, we believe in Jesus and confess: '‘You are the Christ, the Son of the Living God.’ On the rock of this faith confessed by S. Peter, Christ built His Church.” Do you believe this differently?

Where is the Church after the last page of Revelations?

How can you even prove the Church existed after the Bible was written and assembled…not until 1850 or something in the USA??, this the Remnant…Americans??

Thanks, Guanaphore…so the Seventh Day ADventists believe they are the remnant???
Will go back to read.

It is the Liturgy that opens up the Book of Revelations…

Hi Kathleen Gee: Good for you!!!

 

[GKC]

Hi GKC: I am trying my best to listen to them Protestants but which ones as there are so many different kinds, and still I am not sure as to what they think, but some have I think said something.

I wish you luck in that.

GKC

 

[spina1953]

I wish you luck in that.

GKC

Hi GKC: Thanks. Guess I will wait and see what happens. maybe someone will have something to say that makes sense, from those who don’t. The sensible one’s know who they are.

 

[ragsbinwashed]

I think that any debate as to what Revelation means or does not mean needs to be addressed in a new thread. I am right now only interested in how Protestants explain the 1500 year gap and how that might have happened from their point of view. Revelation does not enter into the discussion at hand.

Well you have how this Protestant explains it.

rrags

 

[GKC]

Hi GKC: Thanks. Guess I will wait and see what happens. maybe someone will have something to say that makes sense, from those who don’t. The sensible one’s know who they are.

Have many of them specifically identified themselves here, and their affiliation?

GKC

 

[spina1953]

Have many of them specifically identified themselves here, and their affiliation?

GKC

Hi GKC: Sounds like a loaded question to me? In that I could be wrong either way.

 

[GKC]

Hi GKC: Sounds like a loaded question to me? In that I could be wrong either way.

No, it’s a straight-forward question. I think I see one candidate speaking up just above. Are there others? I’ve put up 28 posts in the thread, now, but none of them are directly related to addressing the question (I’m a serial facilitator of thread drift). I don’t know if anyone has spoken up to claim the concept, and explain their position, save the above volunteer. I haven’t followed the thread, to be able to answer that question I posed. I do think I’ve seen folks denying they recognized such a gap.

GKC