How do protestants explain the 1500 year gap.

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GKC said:
Ah, yes. Thought it might be Barrett and the World Christian Encyclopedia figures.

In that count, how many denominations does it count the Roman Catholic Church as?

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There are no denominations of the Catholic Church.
 
GKC said:
If by that you mean, how many denominations does the World Christian Encyclopedia count, when counting the RCC, it’s 236. Or was, around 2010, when that set of numbers came out; they are often updated. The folk who put out the WCE, and the World Christian Trends, count denominations in a peculiar, idiosyncratic way, for their statistical analyses. A denomination is counted as a separate denomination for each country it appears in. When explaining that, they use the RCC as an example. It’s one Church, but counts as 236 denominations.That’s their business, but it makes it awkward to directly reference their numbers, and think you’ve got an authoritative count of “denominations”.

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I’m sorry, I was wanting to know what the actual number of different protestant denominations there are.
 
ragsbinwashed said:
Ok, Tomyris, here is the op

He says that he had to “go with” the Catholic answer to the 1500 year gap and he does this by accessing writings that for 1200 of those 1500 years had not been written. And I can’t imagine why you care whether or not someone thinks you are “representative” or not. This forum to the best of my knowledge is a statement of personal opinions and I don’t think anyone who posts here can claim to be representative.
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I’m sorry the writing that the op talks about were written in the three hundred years after Christ so they could not possibly say anything about the 1500 year gap. Sorry for the mix up.
 
ragsbinwashed said:
I’m sorry the writing that the op talks about were written in the three hundred years after Christ so they could not possibly say anything about the 1500 year gap. Sorry for the mix up.
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Don’t they at least speak to the first 300 years? When is the “gap” alleged to have begun? Constantine?
 
ptisme said:
There’s a lot it seems…. Not sure why it matters…
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I’d say a lot is a better guess than a few.

But it is a useful talking point, for some folks, and any number is useful enough for that. Whatever the number is, it is too many. But thinking there is some more or less officially known number is all too common.

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estesbob said:
What is your denomination?
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Ok, Bob let’s try again
Here’s my answer to the op.
Originally Posted by ragsbinwashed View Post
There is no gap. There have always been a people (church) that keep the commandments and the faith of Jesus. Rev.14:12
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To which you replied
Whos version of the Faith of Jesus?
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To which I replied
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Originally Posted by ragsbinwashed View Post
How many “versions” of faith in Jesus do you think there are?
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Your reply
By last count about 10,000 Only one has been around since Pentecost,however
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mine
Really? So there is 10.000 ways to have faith in Jesus? But these were before Jesus? Could you explain?
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To this instead of answering the question. You ask what denomination I am which has nothing to do with anything. I’m just interested in how you think that there were 10,000 ways to have faith in Jesus before Pentecost and only one after?

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guanophore said:
Don’t they at least speak to the first 300 years? When is the “gap” alleged to have begun? Constantine?
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Here’s the op
How do protestants explain the 1500 year gap.
This was the real question I had in a previous thread that got derailed. Personally leaving my non denominational church and coming home to the Catholic Church if both had a solid answer from the bible I had to go with the catholic one because it was rooted in history such as the writings from the first three centuries after Christ.
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When ever I show protestants of any kind writings such as the Didiache, polycarp, and ignatius of Antioch. They say “well false teachers were there from the beginning and I have the truth from the bible”. This had come from Lutherans to baptists
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This is a little confusing because Adaski says that he left his nondenominational church to come home to the catholic church because their answer to (I’m assuming the 1500 year gap whatever that is) is answered by writings that were done in the first 300 years of that so called gap. Can you understand my confusion?

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NorthTexan88 said:
Having converted to the Church from the church of Christ (cambellite), I can give you a little background of what it is my understanding that they believe about the 1500 year gap.

From my understanding they believe that the Church went into apostasy very early on, however, there was always a very small remnant of the “true church” (aka church of Christ) that was suppressed and persecuted by the Catholic Church. Then in the 1800’s the coC recreated the early church during the restorationist movement. However, in all honesty church history is never spoken about.

During high school I remember asking several times where was the proof for the claims of the church of Christ and other protestants claiming to be the original church, I was never given an answer and was treated poorly for even questioning. This is what led me to learn more about Church history and eventually I became Catholic.
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estesbob said:
Those who claim there is no gap need to explain the thousands of variations of Christianity since the so called reformers lived.
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Why? Why do I have to answer for what someone else thinks? And why don’t you have to answer for every heresy proposed by some Catholic theologian?
 
estesbob said:
Those who claim there is no gap need to explain the thousands of variations of Christianity since the so called reformers lived.
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I am wondering if today looks a lot more like early church than before the reformation as far as variety yet general universalism . That is the early church was lax on some things and dogmatic on others .There was more variety than one would suppose. I would agree the greatest variety exists today.
 
adawgj said:
Because since the Reformation there have been more and more Protestant denominations all claiming to be the true church and have the Bible correct. Whereas before there weren’t any.
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Actually very few reformed churches claim to be the one true church, as do some cults (Mormonism or JW’s) and even CC. One must be careful in looking at what denominations have for definition of “church”…But yes,denominations numbers do seem to grow but you still have just a handful of major differences. Understand this stumbling block for Catholics looking at PC yet that is ok, for the issues are much deeper and filters out superficial seekers or those that think they are in “healthier” environment already.
 
adawgj said:
Because since the Reformation there have been more and more Protestant denominations all claiming to be the true church and have the Bible correct. Whereas before there weren’t any.
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And you think that I need to explain the reason for this to you? Again why?
 
benhur said:
Actually very few reformed churches claim to be the one true church, as do some cults (Mormonism or JW’s) and even CC. One must be careful in looking at what denominations have for definition of “church”…But yes,denominations numbers do seem to grow but you still have just a handful of major differences. Understand this stumbling block for Catholics looking at PC yet that is ok, for the issues are much deeper and filters out superficial seekers or those that think they are in “healthier” environment already.
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Sorry for my generalization on that. I will try to be more careful Benhur (cool name 👍)
 
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