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GeorgiaPeach
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Honeysuckle - I read that thread. I believe in my heart they are well intentioned, just mislead.
I’ve read most of these posts, and while I’m not a Baptist there are two side to every coin. My wife is a former Roman Catholic and her Mom thinks we are doomed for Hell. She believes that there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church. So while it may be fun for you poke at the Southern Baptist there are Catholics that feel the same way they do.Hi, im new to this site. I am a cradle catholic that has a lot to learn about my faithI married a southern baptist and have a 2yr boy that i baptised catholic. I am just wondering exactly how baptist feel about us catholics. My husband is very openminded so he does not think im going to hell for believing in my faith
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I’ve read most of these posts, and while I’m not a Baptist there are two side to every coin. My wife is a former Roman Catholic and her Mom thinks we are doomed for Hell. She believes that there is no salvation outside the Catholic Church. So while it may be fun for you poke at the Southern Baptist there are Catholics that feel the same way they do./QUO
Unfortunately the doctrine of no salvation outside of the Church is often misinterpreted by many Catholics, especially traditionalists. As a traditionalist myself, it is important to realize invincible ignorance in the case of salvation. This ignorance applies to many non-Catholics and non-Christians. But, in the fundamental Baptists community, this type of thinking is extremely common. It’s not the same way in the Catholic community, while some disregard invincible ignorance, it is not for the most part a majority.
Determined to throw some stones today, eh? Fine, have at it.“Ignorant” and “brainwashed” ARE the right words for people on THIS BOARD who approach Catholics by e-mail to convince them that they are un-saved and then persist in gross distortion of our beliefs, and refuse to discuss the issues unless we are converting our beliefs to theirs.
I did the same. I am/was Faithful1 on that board. If any of my posts are still visible, check out my siggy there.I think i am giving up on them. I cant listen to their garbage anymore, it is too frustrating. They are just ignorant.![]()
Salvation outside the Church is an extremely important doctrine to realize and to debate. Believing in Jesus Christ is also believing in Christ’s One True, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. Baptist ordinations are not valid, they do not have apostolic succession, and therefore do not have valid sacraments! This isn’t an important issue to discuss? Perhaps you should look more deeply into the importance of the Eucharist, Confirmation, Reconciliation, Anointing of the Sick, Marriage, and Holy Orders, to realize just how important membership in God’s only Church is.Determined to throw some stones today, eh? Fine, have at it.
Are they doing so because they hate you? No. They are trying to save you from something they believe is evil. God love 'em for being so diligent. Wasting their time? Absolutely. But I doubt the Lord is high-fiving you for engaging in the argument.
You don’t have to suffer fools, nor do you have to hunt them down.
I’ll tell you the same thing I tell Protestants who try to convince me I’m wrong. We both believe in Jesus Christ … shouldn’t you be fussing at those who don’t?
I discount nothing about our faith. I’m suggesting to not argue it with someone who isn’t listening … such as Baptists who are absolutely convinced that they are right. When anybody non-Catholic tries to tell me that I as a Catholic am wrong, I am not really listening. I don’t even consider the validity of their argument. I doubt they do either we when try to convince them of their error. Instead, there are MANY people out there who are not Christians or are confused about God, I feel it would be far more productive to discuss matters of faith with them. We can debate with devout Protestants all we want, but it isn’t likely they’ll start seeing things any differently.Salvation outside the Church is an extremely important doctrine to realize and to debate. Believing in Jesus Christ is also believing in Christ’s One True, Holy, Catholic and Apostolic Church. Baptist ordinations are not valid, they do not have apostolic succession, and therefore do not have valid sacraments! This isn’t an important issue to discuss? Perhaps you should look more deeply into the importance of the Eucharist, Confirmation, Reconciliation, Anointing of the Sick, Marriage, and Holy Orders, to realize just how important membership in God’s only Church is.
You are the one who came here to throw stones You told those who used the terms ignorant and brainwashed to stay on their own board when I was on my own board when this happened to me. Take a look at yourself in the mirror before you accuse anyone of throwing stones. You might also try reading the posts so you don’t become confused and post things that make no sense.
Ok, you win, you were pointing out her error. My mistake, I apologize. I can honestly say I have never been chastised so harshly for telling people to “be nice to others”. I’ll try “reading the posts so I don’t become confused and post things that make no sense” from now on. I’ll seriously rethink my hateful attitude before I preach compassion and prayer for our disillusioned Christian brothers. Thanks for really putting me in my place, I obviously needed it with all my talk of “pray rather than argue”.I don’t know what your hatefulness is about. You obviously didn’t read the thread, or you would know that I didn’t pick an argument with the woman, I tried to point out her error, and so, yes, I will rightfully say she persists in chosen ignorance.
I discount nothing about our faith. I’m suggesting to not argue it with someone who isn’t listening … such as Baptists who are absolutely convinced that they are right. When anybody non-Catholic tries to tell me that I as a Catholic am wrong, I am not really listening. I don’t even consider the validity of their argument. I doubt they do either we when try to convince them of their error. Instead, there are MANY people out there who are not Christians or are confused about God, I feel it would be far more productive to discuss matters of faith with them. We can debate with devout Protestants all we want, but it isn’t likely they’ll start seeing things any differently.QUOTE]
I agree that in most cases, the debate is futile and will result in arguements and a refusal to listen. But, ground can be made against “Bible Christians” and Fundamentalists, if the correct approach is used. I recommend “Catholicism and Fundamentalism: The Attack on Rome by Bible Christians”, written by this site’s founder, Karl Keating. This book is extremely informative and helpful in making a defense against Bible Christians, such as Baptists, that, by using sola scriptura as they do, reaches them on a personal level. It may seem hopeless in debating, but there is a specific way.