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BernadetteM
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I have been wondering exactly how do true traditional Catholics think about other Catholics, the Church under Pope Benedict and the Eastern Rite Catholics.
I went to a website that appears from the comments that most of the posters are SSPX members.
I discussed the Anglican Use with them and although some who had been to an AU parish for Mass were delighted with the Mass, others could say nothing positive, but have never attended an AU Mass and don’t seem to have much knowledge about how the reunion was created.
They find fault with the Holy Father and most of the posts are very negative in nature.
They have no use no matter how the OF is celebrated for it being valid. They have nothing kind to say about the Orthodox.
I guess I am use to CAF, although people disagree at times, the posters are much more positive in the Faith.
I personally feel the need to separate the Traditional Catholics on this board from the ones on the other board.
They talk about the beauty of the EF form, but put down the AU Masses and say just because they have a beautiful Mass and wonderful vestments means nothing. I agree about the fact that beauty does not make a Mass valid, that really is not the point.
They keep talking about why the Anglicans who came into the Church under the Pastoral Provision didn’t just use the Sarum Use or go to a TLM Mass, at that time there were no TLM Masses celebrated in parishes. There are legitimate traditions of Anglicans that were in place before Henry the Eighth.
I researched the Sarum Use and although some of the wording is a little different, the canon of the Sarum Use is the same as the AU liturgy. Also other parts of the Mass are the same. I also looked at the 1979 Book of Common Prayer and found that the only parts that were used, were some very short responses that the Anglicans took from the OF. There are three prayers that come from the original Book of Common Prayer.
Also one of priests in an AU parish was instructed by the Bishop to celebrate the TLM Mass and he did, but for some reason he was told to stop. He said he would be willing again to celebrate it, if the Bishop again wanted it. He now has a Latin Mass each Sunday. To me to be Catholic is to be obedient to the Church. Of course if for some reason the Holy Father were to change the dogmas and doctrines of the Church to something that is protestant I would know that this is not of God. (This will never happen).
I thought that to be Catholic we are to submit to the Churches decisions. The AU liturgy is in the form that Rome chose. I understand that when this all started that the Anglicans who first approach Rome would have loved having the Sarum Use in English.
The priests are valid and AU Mass is valid so why such hostility? Do most traditioinal Catholics think that only the TLM is valid? There are other Uses in the Church which are not rites, but are actually uses within the Latin Rite.
The posters here seem to have a much more charitable attitude towards others and I was just wanting to know if you are not part of the SSPX are you also considered schismatic in the eyes of the SSPX.
Yours in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary
Bernadette
I went to a website that appears from the comments that most of the posters are SSPX members.
I discussed the Anglican Use with them and although some who had been to an AU parish for Mass were delighted with the Mass, others could say nothing positive, but have never attended an AU Mass and don’t seem to have much knowledge about how the reunion was created.
They find fault with the Holy Father and most of the posts are very negative in nature.
They have no use no matter how the OF is celebrated for it being valid. They have nothing kind to say about the Orthodox.
I guess I am use to CAF, although people disagree at times, the posters are much more positive in the Faith.
I personally feel the need to separate the Traditional Catholics on this board from the ones on the other board.
They talk about the beauty of the EF form, but put down the AU Masses and say just because they have a beautiful Mass and wonderful vestments means nothing. I agree about the fact that beauty does not make a Mass valid, that really is not the point.
They keep talking about why the Anglicans who came into the Church under the Pastoral Provision didn’t just use the Sarum Use or go to a TLM Mass, at that time there were no TLM Masses celebrated in parishes. There are legitimate traditions of Anglicans that were in place before Henry the Eighth.
I researched the Sarum Use and although some of the wording is a little different, the canon of the Sarum Use is the same as the AU liturgy. Also other parts of the Mass are the same. I also looked at the 1979 Book of Common Prayer and found that the only parts that were used, were some very short responses that the Anglicans took from the OF. There are three prayers that come from the original Book of Common Prayer.
Also one of priests in an AU parish was instructed by the Bishop to celebrate the TLM Mass and he did, but for some reason he was told to stop. He said he would be willing again to celebrate it, if the Bishop again wanted it. He now has a Latin Mass each Sunday. To me to be Catholic is to be obedient to the Church. Of course if for some reason the Holy Father were to change the dogmas and doctrines of the Church to something that is protestant I would know that this is not of God. (This will never happen).
I thought that to be Catholic we are to submit to the Churches decisions. The AU liturgy is in the form that Rome chose. I understand that when this all started that the Anglicans who first approach Rome would have loved having the Sarum Use in English.
The priests are valid and AU Mass is valid so why such hostility? Do most traditioinal Catholics think that only the TLM is valid? There are other Uses in the Church which are not rites, but are actually uses within the Latin Rite.
The posters here seem to have a much more charitable attitude towards others and I was just wanting to know if you are not part of the SSPX are you also considered schismatic in the eyes of the SSPX.
Yours in the Hearts of Jesus and Mary
Bernadette
