How do we know Mary is in heaven?

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“Ven. Mary of Agreda (1602-1665) heard a voice from the throne speaking in the person of the Father: “Our chosen one shall be called Mary, and this name is to be powerful and magnificent. Those that shall invoke it with devout affection shall receive most abundant graces; those that shall honour it and pronounce it with reverence shall be consoled and vivified, and will find in it the remedy of their evils, the treasures for their enrichment, the light which shall guide them to heaven. It shall be terrible against the power of hell, it shall crush the head of the serpent and it shall win glorious victories over the princes of hell.”
– The Mystical City of God
 
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After placing the Most Blessed Mary on this exalted and super eminent Throne, The Lord declared to the Courtiers of Heaven all the privileges She should enjoy in virtue of this participation in His Majesty. The Person of the Eternal Father, as the first principle of all things, speaking to the Angels and Saints, said to them: “Our Daughter Mary was chosen according to Our pleasure from amongst all creatures, the first one to delight Us, and who never fell from the title and position of a True Daughter, such as We had given Her in Our Divine Mind; She has a claim on Our dominion, which We shall recognize by crowning Her as the legitimate and peerless Lady and Sovereign.” The Incarnate Word said: “To My True and Natural Mother belong all the creatures which were created and redeemed by Me; and of all things over which I am King, She too shall be the legitimate and Supreme Queen.” The Holy Ghost said: “Since She is called My Beloved and Chosen Spouse, She deserves to be crowned as Queen for all eternity.”
 
Having thus spoken the Three Divine Persons placed upon the head of the Most Blessed Mary a crown of such new splendor and value, that the like has been seen neither before nor after by any mere creature. At the same time a voice sounded from the throne saying: “My Beloved, chosen among the creatures, Our Kingdom is Thine; Thou shalt be the Lady and the Sovereign of the Seraphim, of all the Ministering Spirits, the Angels and of the entire universe of creatures. Attend, proceed and govern prosperously over them, for in Our Supreme Consistory We give Thee power, majesty and sovereignty. Being filled with grace beyond all the rest, Thou hast humiliated Thyself in Thy Own estimation to the lowest place; receive now the Supreme Dignity deserved by Thee and, as a participation in Our Divinity, the dominion over all the creatures of Our Omnipotence. From Thy Royal Throne to the center of the earth Thou shalt reign; and by the power We now give Thee, Thou shalt subject Hell with its demons and inhabitants. Let all of them fear Thee as the Supreme Empress and Mistress of those caverns and dwelling-places of our enemies. In Thy hands and at Thy pleasure We place the influences and forces of the Heavens, the moisture of the clouds, the growths of the earth; and of all of them do Thou distribute according to Thy Will, and Our own Will shall be at Thy disposal for the execution of Thy wishes. Thou shalt be the Empress and Mistress of the Militant Church, its Protectress, its Advocate, shalt be its Mother and Teacher. Thou shalt be the special Patroness of the Catholic countries; and whenever they, or the faithful, or any of the children of Adam call upon Thee from their heart, serve or oblige Thee, Thou shalt relieve and help them in their labors and necessities. Thou shalt be the Friend, the Defender and the Chieftainess of all the just and of Our Friends; all of them Thou shalt comfort, console and fill with blessings according to their devotion to Thee. In view of all this We make Thee the Depository of Our riches, the Treasurer of Our goods; we place into Thy hands the helps and blessings of Our grace for distribution; nothing do We wish to be given to the world, which does not pass through Thy hands; and nothing do We deny, which Thou wishest to concede to men. Grace shall be diffused in Thy lips for obtaining all that Thou wishest and ordainest in Heaven and on Earth, and everywhere shall Angels and men obey Thee; because whatever is Ours shall be Thine, just as Thou hast always been Ours; and Thou shalt reign with Us forever.”
In the execution of this decree and privilege conceded to the Mistress of the World, the Almighty commanded all the Courtiers of Heaven, Angels and men, to show Her obedience and recognize Her as their Queen and Lady.
 
There was another mystery concealed in this wonder, namely, it was a recompense for the veneration, which, as is clear from this history, the Most Blessed Mary, notwithstanding that She was the Mother of God, full of grace and holiness above the Angels and Saints, had bestowed upon the Saints during Her mortal pilgrimage. Although during the time when They were comprehensors and She yet a pilgrim, it was for Her greater merit, that She should humble Herself beneath them all according to the ordainment of the Lord; yet now, when She was in possession of the Kingdom, it was just, that She should be venerated, worshipped and extolled by them as Her inferiors and vassals. This they also did in My Daughter, if anything could lessen the enjoyment of the Highest Felicity and Glory which I possess, and if, in it, I could be capable of any sorrow, without a doubt I would be grieved to see The Holy Church and the rest of the World in its present state of labor, notwithstanding that men know Me to be Their Mother, Advocate and Protectress in Heaven, ready to guide and assist them to Eternal Life. In this state of affairs, when The Almighty has granted Me so many privileges as His Mother and when there are so many sources of help placed in My hands solely for the benefit of mortals and belonging to me as the Mother of clemency, it is a great cause of sorrow to Me to see mortals force Me to remain idle, and that, for want of calling upon me, so many souls should be lost. But if I cannot experience grief now, I may justly complain of men, that they load themselves with Eternal damnation and refuse Me the Glory of saving their souls.How much My intercession and the power I have in Heaven is worth has never been hidden in the Church, for I have demonstrated My ability to save all by so many thousands of miracles, prodigies and favors operated in behalf of those devoted to Me. With those who have called upon Me in their needs I have always shown Myself liberal, and the Lord has shown Himself liberal to them on My account. The Most High still wishes to give liberally of His Infinite Treasures and resolves to favor those who know how to gain My intercession before God. This is the secure way and the powerful means of advancing the Church, of improving the Catholic reigns, of spreading the Faith, of furthering the welfare of families and of states, of bringing the Souls to Grace and to the Friendship of God.
 
What makes you think that the mother that our Lord designed for Himself, brought to flesh, honored and obeyed His entire life is not in heaven? Would Jesus create His own mother only to send her to hell?

That would be against His own 6th Commandment.

Read Revelation 12 and Psalm 2, as well as John 19.
 
Francis, you provided a lot of material which I am now reading through. nearlycatholic, Kei, steve-b, very helpful, thank you all 🙂

Many concepts in here I can simply go with.
 
Mary is in Heaven. She was conceived without Sin. She never sinned in her life. She is in heaven.
 
nearlycatholic said:
I wonder myself that if heaven is what I was taught it to be, then where is the sorrowless existence if you are being continually reminded of the goings on here.
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I remember hearing, as a small child, the God has a special filter up in heaven that allowed all the angels and saints to only see the good stuff going on on earth.
 
Luce7 said:
I’m fairly new to this, I’ve been attending RCIA groups and I’ve discovered a lot about catholicism that has really surprised me in a good way.

But I have a burning question (ten thousand actually but for now, we’ll stick to one.)

How do you know the virgin Mary is in heaven, watching out for you and praying for you? As a catholic, is this about faith, is there scripture that says she is…but more importantly, how can you KNOW. Relics have to be proven to be authentic before they can be used for the altar stone, so…has Mary been proven somehow?

And how do you know that this woman who lived two thousand years ago, has any interest in praying for people? It seems odd to me that a single human soul who is famous purely for having a very unusual baby, would spend her time praying for millions of humans all asking questions…considering she is just a human soul, like any other mother, really.

Genuine question. I’m hoping to hear how practising catholics view this.
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Those are valid questions to raise by a skeptical mind.
Try and look at the issue predisposed to good faith and hope, and see if that answers some questions.
 
In a nutshell, Holy Mary has been resurrected and elevated to the Heavens because she isn’t like any other human. Some of the main explanations I know are below.
  • She is the greatest of God’s creatures;
  • she is the true queen of the Heavens (as mentioned by Kei);
  • her body wasn’t subject to the corruption after death (i.e. her body would not decompose), therefore her body couldn’t remain on Earth or else it would probably be violated;
  • she is the new and eternal Ark of the Covenant that must remain preserved where God duels;
  • she, as the “lawyer of the living”, must be alive herself in order to defend the faithful living who try to live by her example; and
  • she is the Perfect Daughter of God Father, the Admirable Mother of God Son, and the Most Loyal Bride of God the Holy Spirit, thus, she must remain united with her Godly family.
 
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Luce7 said:
I’m fairly new to this, I’ve been attending RCIA groups and I’ve discovered a lot about catholicism that has really surprised me in a good way.

But I have a burning question (ten thousand actually but for now, we’ll stick to one.)

How do you know the virgin Mary is in heaven, watching out for you and praying for you? As a catholic, is this about faith, is there scripture that says she is…but more importantly, how can you KNOW. Relics have to be proven to be authentic before they can be used for the altar stone, so…has Mary been proven somehow?

And how do you know that this woman who lived two thousand years ago, has any interest in praying for people? It seems odd to me that a single human soul who is famous purely for having a very unusual baby, would spend her time praying for millions of humans all asking questions…considering she is just a human soul, like any other mother, really.

Genuine question. I’m hoping to hear how practising catholics view this.
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My dear friend in Christ,

This FORUM places a limit on the siZe of post that does not permit me to reply fully to all of your questions, so I will do the best I cac

PLEASE make the time to check out these sites

[1] http://www.catholic.org/mary/appear.php

[2] List of Marian Apparitions - Cora Evans Blog

[3] Marian Miracles

Miracles must be GOD APPROVED

Further, the Early Fathers have found & marked the grave sites of all of the Apostles, & the “Upper Room” talked about in the Gospel, as well as the the home in Nazareth; BUT no grave for Mary. A sure indication that She attained heaven; and the Early Church understood this and believed as we do today.

Also the Bible reading of Luke Chapter one; READ verses 26-35, & 46-55 from this site which BTW can be DOWNLOADED it’s the Douay Catholic Bible www.http://drbo.org/

That Mary is interested in US is evident by the many miracles that have been done THROUGH Her with God necessary approving them

God Bless you,
Patrick [PJM] here on CAF
 
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