How do women feel about chivalrious men?

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One of my best friends is very traditional about how he treats girls (I never have to walk by myself at night, get the door, or even pay for coffee if I’m with him) and he even said that he’ll propose to the girl but he wants her to be the first to bring up marriage:) His point is, yes, guys should be chivalrous but it should be a two way street. Why should the man have to do everything?
Like it’s not enough that we have babies and clean toilets?
 
Like it’s not enough that we have babies and clean toilets?
😃 But generally not on the first date. Usually we get to enjoy a few months or even years of chivalrous behaviour from the men before they get to find out whether we’ll clean their toilets and have their babies. I can understand how they’d feel a little ripped off. 😉
 
😃 But generally not on the first date. Usually we get to enjoy a few months or even years of chivalrous behaviour from the men before they get to find out whether we’ll clean their toilets and have their babies. I can understand how they’d feel a little ripped off. 😉
If a man is chivalrous towards every woman he meets, he will inevitably come to the day when he forgets that toilets can even get dirty, and what it is like not to have a small crowd of children adoring him and climbing all over him when he gets home from work each night. 👍
 
Aye, aye, sailor; I second that, matey. Men who think they are doing us a favor when we’re the one’s who squeezed THEM out of our bums… :rolleyes:
 
Hey hey hey!

I clean my own toilets. In fact, I do my own laundry, clean my own home, and I constatly take care of my younger siblings!!

I intend to help my wife with her housework etc.
The least she can do is be a little more forward at the moment…😉

I guess in my honest opinion, chivalry should continue even into marriage.
If it were up to me, my wife would just enjoy herself all day.
 
I have seen some threads on women and men who can’t find some one to marry. Do you think this is do to a lack of chivalry and true love?
 
I have seen some threads on women and men who can’t find some one to marry. Do you think this is do to a lack of chivalry and true love?
It’s impossible to say. Most of the time, it’s just because the person isn’t in the right kind of environment for finding a marriage partner, which often just can’t be helped.
 
I’d say yes.
There is a serious lack of faithful and loving people for faithful and loving people.

Perhaps there’ll be more in the next generation…
 
Like it’s not enough that we have babies and clean toilets?
Who said the woman has to clean the toilets all the time?

This same friend of mine may not have the capability to have babies but he cooks, does laundry, and cleans (he credits it to his mom and his nonna for making sure he knew all this stuff). And when he’s with a girl, even if she’s just a friend, he does EVERYTHING for her.
 
Hey hey hey!

I intend to help my wife with her housework etc.
The least she can do is be a little more forward at the moment…😉
This is exactly my friend’s line of thinking 🙂

What he doesn’t like is being the one to ask her out all the time, paying, giving her gifts, calling, and not having it returned.

And we live in a time where “nice girls” can call guys. How else can I finalize coffee plans with friends, male or female?
 
It depends on what your definition of chivalry might be. I personally love it when men are courteous and respectful of all women, older persons and those with infirmities. I extend the same courtesy back.

I live in Texas (and previously in Oklahoma) where you can tell a man who moved recently from “up North” or sometimes from California because he runs ahead of you and lets the door slam in your face. (This is just our Texas ladies at lunch theory.) The real Texans still run ahead to open the door or hold the elevator. They ask you if they can assist you with your large packages or your car trouble and give a little wave of thank you when you let them merge onto the highway, etc.
:tsktsk: Now now, be careful my friend about the men in Cali or up north, I was born and raised on the west coast. And I happen to be married to a respectful chivalrious man and I know several others, my brother being another one.😉 It’s how men are rasied not where they are from.

I just had to come in and speak up for the men of the north and the land of milk and honey 😛 😃
 
Around here, “ma’am” is reserved for women who are at least one generation older than yourself. I don’t mind being called “ma’am” by kids, but I’d do a double-take if someone my own age or older called me that! 😛
Come on, it switches from “young lady” to “madam” when she’s 15. 😛
 
I call people older than me “Boy” or “kid”

its a weird habit of mine…But I mostly do it to my Brother-in-law who is 23 or 24.
 
That’s the age I went from “hey, kid!” to “Miss.” 😃
Well, the d-less fast-shouted pronunciation does sound a bit like springing to attention. I always pronounce the d. 😉

Good Southern school, by the way, regarding your earlier posts. :tiphat:

@Just wondering: Good point about showing someone he’s worthy of a meal to you. However, I don’t think it has the connotation of the same respect which has to be earned, do you? After all, if a woman is in a man’s company for any reason when it comes to getting a meal, the man should pay. Unless perhaps it’s a daily lunch break at work.

Naturally, while a woman could keep accepting invitations, it would be a nice thing to extend one in reciprocation some time, or in some situations even offer to split the bill. Where I live, the woman will practically always offer to split or pay for herself, then if the other is kindly turned down, she either insists or not. If she doesn’t let you pay for her, she’s considerate. If she lets you pay for her, it means she doesn’t mind you paying for her, which says quite a lot. It’s even hard to say which one possibility is better. 😉
I think they are great but it should go both ways! and sometimes I think it can go to far. For instance the man ALWAYS being expected to pay for a date. And also I think someone mentioned tipping your hat at a woman when she walks in a room and or standing up.
Actually, a man rises to a man too, same with the hat. A woman would also stand up sometimes, even to man, to show some special respect.

But yes, it does go both ways. This doesn’t necessarily mean saying an individual “thank you” for every single gesture of courtesy, but there are many ways in which a woman can reciprocate. In fact, it should be self-inspired rather than reciprocal, anyway. There’s nothing wrong with a woman getting out of her way to be kind or respectful to a man. It does not degrade her in any way. The opposite, actually.

Naturally, in a relaxed setting where people move around all the time, such as an office where people go out of their rooms a lot to fetch prints, send a fax or get a coffee, it may not be a great idea to keep standing up like that every time.
My best guy friends are all very chivalrous towards me. I haven’t been on a date in over a year, yet when with them, I’ve never had to buy a coffee, open a door, pay for dinner, walk back to my dorm alone at 2 AM. They are so sweet and protective of us girls, it makes them very endearing.
That is the right way. It’s a bit bland when it only affects romantic interests. Were she your bitterest enemy, you still pull her chair and you still have to be ready to catch her if she slips. 😛
I have always wanted a man to pull out my chair for me. Never has happend.
That is shameful. 😦

@Belgarion: It is very kind to ask for rather than asking to, especially if the other party would have to give you a lot of credit, but be careful and don’t start feeling inferior to women as if it were degrading for them to ask us actually, should they like our company. Naturally, they could also ask us for a meeting rather than asking to.
 
@Belgarion: It is very kind to ask for rather than asking to, especially if the other party would have to give you a lot of credit, but be careful and don’t start feeling inferior to women as if it were degrading for them to ask us actually, should they like our company. Naturally, they could also ask us for a meeting rather than asking to.

funny you should say that
A friend of mine, who just happens to be a girl, asked me if I wanted to do something. We’re just going out as friends (she owes me some helping picking out new clothes, lol) but I’m still treating her to lunch.
Her bringing it up and asking was cool with me, but I’m still paying darn it! And no one can convince me otherwise!! 😃
 
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