How do you define a mid-life crisis?

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*:rotfl: That is great. 😃 My sister said the other night, she is tired of the ‘business train’ that she’s on…and she wants off! She is 53, and she too said she was thinking of becoming a missionary. That’s ironic. I (secretly) have always ALWAYS wanted to be an archaeologist. I never pursued that dream…really no money in it, unless you discover a bone from an alien or something. lol I watch a lot of archaeology documentaries…and say to myself…that could be you sharon. I don’t know what stops me…oh yeah, I have a husband, kids, a job…bills. I almost forgot.

My husband and I went out for a drink tonight…we dropped dd off at her music lesson…and we talked about this. He said that he wants us to buy a big plot of land with one of his brothers…and his wife…and then we can build a farm. :eek: I said…is this your midlife crisis? lol I said, some men want corvettes…you want cows. :rotfl:
I don’t think it counts as a midlife crisis but lately I have been thinking about getting a large piece of land and setting up a bunch of cabins and opening it as a retreat camp. Basically a place where people could come and have all of the basics, no luxuries, lots or spiritual reading material and a peacefull setting to pray and reflect. I am just not sure how to fund it.
 
I don’t think it counts as a midlife crisis but lately I have been thinking about getting a large piece of land and setting up a bunch of cabins and opening it as a retreat camp. Basically a place where people could come and have all of the basics, no luxuries, lots or spiritual reading material and a peacefull setting to pray and reflect. I am just not sure how to fund it.
There should be another category for people like you, my husband, me…and others…called a midlife ‘epiphany.’ 😃 I think your idea would catch on–sounds great to me. 👍
 
*mr p–hello. 👋

I have followed your situation since you began posting here…I don’t think what you have is a midlife crisis, per se…I think that your wife has been abusive to you, and really, probably more of a marital crisis. I have been praying for you…:o
 
I agree with some of the postings here. To toss off the term “mid-life crisis” as some invention or excuse to behave badly is to be superficial and dismissive of a change that can be anywhere from profound, disturbing, freeing or welcome to the person experiencing it. But whatever the label, it is a VERY real expereince.

Perhaps those who live unexamined lives can escape this phenomenon entirely, but those who really ponder where they are, to whom they are connected and why, what they are doing with their time & energy–frequently encouter doubts along their path-esp. as they hit “mid-life.” They may not so much “abandon” spouses and commitments, but recognize that they have grown apart from the person they found so compelling at age 25. It can be an opportunity to grow together and reconnect. It could be time to recognize that one’s partner has abandoned values that once united the marriage. Sometimes, unfortunately, it can also unravel marriages and families. It is not all unadulterated selfishness, and is rarely alleviated by new cars or affairs, and it is frequently a raw, painful, vulnerable emotional episode.

Rather than sit in judgment and entertain supposition about things far too personal for outsiders to fully understand, those in the midst of this need support, patience, occasionally some humor and something in short supply these days~forgiveness. One can survive and emerge a better person for questioning where one is headed and then, more enlightend, decide to move ahead purposefully, as opposed to stumbling along blindly.
 
It could be time to recognize that one’s partner has abandoned values that once united the marriage. Sometimes, unfortunately, it can also unravel marriages and families.
Right. For example, your spouse can become someone totally different - someone who you would never marry. For a non-Christian, the solution to that situation is simple: divorce. (Well, it isn’t simple - divorce is never simple.)

But the solution for Christians is not simple. We are called to honor our marriage vows, until death do us part. So how do we cope, if we a married to someone who, in some cases, may disgust us?

My wife has abandoned Christianity, engaged in acts of serial lesbian adultery, and has lied about all this, repeatedly. I have accepted the reality of all this, and tried my best to forgive her. (I have not been a perfect husband, by any stretch of the imagination. I ultimately blame most of the problems in our marriage on myself.)

I will honor my vows, until my dying breath. Even if my wife divorces me, I will not re-marry. I will simply cope, day after day, year after year. I will take whatever comes - abandonment, divorce, poverty, loneliness, sickness, emasculation, whatever. I will count on the Lord, to be my staff and my shield.

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Every day, my life seems more and more like the lyrics from the classic Pink Floyd album, “The Dark side of the Moon”. The Time and Breathe tracks from the album seem to point exactly to my life:

pink-floyd-lyrics.com/html/time-dark-lyrics.html

pink-floyd-lyrics.com/html/breathe-reprise-dark-lyrics.html

**I have faith, but my life day-to-day life seems pointless. **My only sense of satisfaction comes from what awaits for me in the next life.
 
I don’t know if the term “mid life crisis” points to a real phenomen. But I have most of the symptoms. And it is brutally hard to live with - regardless of whatever nomenclature you use to categorize it.

I doubt my relationship to my wife. She is now an agnostic, and has completely abandoned Christianity. She is deeply narcissistic, and really cares nothing about me or our marriage. I strongly suspect that she will abandon and divorce me, when the time is right for her.

My daughter has abandoned Catholicism, and now attends an evangelical church. I wonder all the time what I did wrong, to cause this. I suspect that my daughter is doing this to rebel against her parents; admittedly, I and my wife have been overprotective of her.

My son is mentally and physically sound, and I have at least some hope for him. He may have some Christian faith - but it is hard to tell. He too is going through his rebellious phase, where he will do anything to get out of the home, and break free from his parents.

My career and ministries, by and large, are failures. I have some successes, but I really feel like I have underachieved.

My physical health is OK, but I suspect that it won’t by like this forever. I am approaching 50, which is when my mother started having physical breakdowns. And I continue to struggle with emotional and psychological problems (mostly anxiety and depression), that I have battled for much of my adult life.

Essentially, I look back at the past 44 years, and I see promises that I never kept, dreams that are unfulfilled, and so much time that was wasted. I think this is why many middle-aged people go through these “crises”.

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I suspect that I could spend the rest of my life lonely, divorced, estranged from my family, in failing health, and bankrupt. It is a real possibility. That is exactly how my mother spent much of the last 15 years of her life. (I and my sister did what we could to help her. I was living a thousand miles away at the time. I ended up paying much of her bills. When you have a parent who suffers in old age, it makes you dread the thought of growing old.)

Could I end up just like her? It is a real possibility. And yes, it frightens me.

Our civilization is not kind to senior citizens. And when you enter later middle age, the stark reality of that can hit you in the face, like a 2-by-4.

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Willie Lohman, the lead character from Arthur Miller’s classic play, “Death of a Salesman”, faced the exact same predicament. He too was confronted with a failed marriage, family, and career. He chose the easy way out - suicide. He was a man lacking in Christian faith, which is why he took the route of the coward, by asphixiating himself. There are no such options, for those of us who are true Christians.

I think I can survive anything, through my faith in Christ. I could even endure what Willie had to. But that doesn’t mean it will be easy. The next 20-30 years could be extremely hard. That is why I only place my faith in the next world - the current world holds no promise for me.
My heart really goes out to you and I promise to pray for you.

What scares me is that you sound like you’re giving into despair, where only evil awaits you. Step outside all of this and ask yourself if you still believe God loves you. (He does!)
Do you believe that? So then recognize that you hurt, and I dare say, insult Him by feeling this way about yourself. You are His glorious creation, and you need to start loving yourself a whole lot more.

Please understand that I’m not trying to minimize what you’re going through AT ALL, but you can’t fix everything all at once. Anytime we have multiple problems in life, they tend to all blend together and it becomes overwhelming. It messes w/your mind and before you know it, you’re throwing your hands up in the air in defeat.

In my humble opinion, you need to go visit Jesus in the Blessed Sacrament. Sit and adore Him. Reach out to Him and He will come to you. TRUST me on that. Every single time the devil tempts you into despair, immediately say an “Our Father” or “Hail Mary”. Find a Priest who you feel might be able to council you and/or a Catholic Psychologist. Look in your church bulletin or on your Diocesan website.

If you struggle with depression or anxiety, see a doctor about possible medications. Those are very real chemical imbalances that may need to be treated in that way.

Just make the choice to not allow yourself to fall any deeper into this despair. I know you’re probably thinking, “it’s not that easy”…and in some ways you’re right, but in a lot of ways, it really is that easy. ALL things are possible w/Christ.

No more looking in the past and seeing the “promises you didn’t keep or the dreams unfulfilled”. What’s done is done, and I suspect your depression is really just clouding the reality of your past anyway. Focus on the positive things in your life. Not to sound cheesy, but if you have to, literally make a list for yourself.

Continue to be there for your wife and your children, of course, but give all these sufferings to God.

Again, my prayers are with you.
 
My heart really goes out to you and I promise to pray for you.

What scares me is that you sound like you’re giving into despair, where only evil awaits you. Step outside all of this and ask yourself if you still believe God loves you. (He does!)
Do you believe that? So then recognize that you hurt, and I dare say, insult Him by feeling this way about yourself. You are His glorious creation, and you need to start loving yourself a whole lot more.
I wouldn’t classify what I am experiencing as despair. Trust me, I have known people in despair - and I am not there. At least not yet.

Really, what I am experiencing now is acceptance. I have done everything in my power to improve my marriage, and nothing has worked. I have tried it all - psychotherapy, marriage counseling, self-help books, pastoral care, etc. Nothing registered any real improvement. If anything, these steps made the situation worse, not better.

I will therefore accept my marriage for what it is - an absolute failure. I will continue to honor my vows, for that is the commitment that I made to Christ. I will do this, even if my wife is unfaithful to me, or abuses my trust, exploits our finances - whatever. And yes, I will continue to forgive her, for whatever transpires.

But now, trying to improve my marriage seems almost pointless. It is an exercise in futility. It is like being a soldier, who has continued to fight, long after the battle has lost. He serves out of pure loyalty and obedience - and so do I.

Could the Lord work a miracle? Could he send the Holy Spirit, to revive my wife’s faith, and also our marriage? Of course He could. He is omnipotent, and can accomlish whatever He wants to.

But I really, seriously doubt that the Lord is going to do that. I think He has much bigger problems.
 
***My dd and I were talking about this recently, one of her friend’s parents are going through a divorce…my dd asked what happened, and her friend said that her mom has been shouting to her dad about having ‘midlife crisis.’ My dd asked me what it means, and I explained to what I have understood it to mean…sort of an identity crisis. (am I quasi-right on that?) When a person might feel at ‘mid life,’ that he/she has not seen enough, done enough, accomplished enough…whatever, they might have a breakdown of sorts–a desire to look for something to make them happier than they see themselves. And also I said to her, if a person has a strong foundation with their faith, they look to God for their worth, not seeking something outside of self for pleasure, happiness…peace.

I think more than happiness, we are all seeking to be at peace with ourselves…within our lives. I am not sure if some of you might have a different outlook on what a midlife crisis is.

I turned 40 last year, and frankly, it was one of the best days of my life…I feel like life and God has revealed so much to me…I am grateful to be at this age. 🙂

So…just curious as to your definition of a mid life crisis, and do women have them, or is it something mainly men go through? :confused:***
I think a midlife crisis is when you realize you’re in the mid of your life!! hahaha!! Ok sorry bad joke…thanks anyhow… :o
 
My father was going through a midlife crisis recently…He was stating that he was disappointed in all of his children and how he doesn’t have anything to show for being 50, and how horrible his health is, and how he is close to death and wishes to leave mom with something… I think that is a midlife crisis… I feel terrible hearing about my father’s situation but I do believe he’s right, I am disappointed in myself as well…Because I never mounted to be what they wanted…BUT I am happy with my life, to a certain extent because I have my children and they are healthy and growing…To me that’s most important above anything materialistic or self indulgent… I don’t know maybe I haven’t gone through my midlife crisis yet… Hopefully I won’t and will be happy with the way my life is…
 
One of the Priest at a nearby Parish we attend sometimes, tells us all the time the World and the things of the world are often twisted by Satan. Even the Pope says wars are open circles of Hell where God and Truth have been abandoned. Meaning our eternal salvation and joy are not of this world but with our Lord in Heaven.

Just look at yesterday’s gospel for Memorial Day, especially the last stanza, it is pretty appropriate for the topic.

Gospel
Jn 16:29-33

"The disciples said to Jesus,
“Now you are talking plainly, and not in any figure of speech.
Now we realize that you know everything
and that you do not need to have anyone question you.
Because of this we believe that you came from God.”
Jesus answered them, "Do you believe now?
Behold, the hour is coming and has arrived
when each of you will be scattered to his own home
and you will leave me alone.
But I am not alone, because the Father is with me.

I have told you this so that you might have peace in me.
In the world you will have trouble,
but take courage, I have conquered the world."

Whatevergirl, are you saying, you could be on a farm working in this Southern heat?:eek: OTOH, we know you are a tough Momma, but do you even own a pair of overalls yet? hehe:D
 
*:rotfl: GD!

Yeah, my husband is like…sharon, you on a farm…up at 5am, milking cows…when will you fit it in, between your nail and hair appts? 😃 I said, we could hire a professional farmer, but the farm would be ours. He just looked at me. :ehh:

I know, it’s a lot of work. My mom’s family were farmers, and they were up at 4:30am, and in bed by 8pm. :eek: *
 
My father was going through a midlife crisis recently…He was stating that he was disappointed in all of his children and how he doesn’t have anything to show for being 50, and how horrible his health is, and how he is close to death and wishes to leave mom with something… I think that is a midlife crisis
Yep, that’s a midlife crisis alright. Sounds like someone I could sympathize with. In fact, except for a few year’s difference, it sounds like you are describing me.

I am a few years younger than your father, but I still have nothing to show for my years. My health is not great, and will likely deteriorate, if my family history is any guide.

And yes, I am disappointed in at least one of my children. My daughter has abandoned the Catholic faith.

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I wish I could give you some sound, solid advice on how to deal with your father. I can only give you this insight: You father could become extremely angry, bitter, and vindictive in the future. Don’t take it personally. It likely has little to do with you.

It is a function of the frustration that he (and I) are feeling, as old age is coming. It is one of the greatest tests of faith - the reality of growing old, and having led a fruitless life. It sure sounds like he is facing the same test that I am.

Do your best to cheer him up. Show him that you appreciate him, and he still has a special place in your family. What makes my situation worse is the feelings of abandonment - don’t let him feel like he has been left alone, or marginalized.

But if he is less than responsive, don’t be upset. He has to come to terms with his own life - and what is left of it. Hopefully, he will pass this test of faith - as I hope to do.
 
Think previous posters have covered the midlife crisis pretty well.

I think it is one of a number of “crises” or “phases” in our life when we look at where we are and where we are going and decide whether we will change our path or not.

What’s different about the midlife crisis from earlier ones is that the person is often at a stage where options are more limited that they were previously.

Think also it can be brought about by the death of parents and becoming or knowing that soon they will become “the oldies”. I remember two friends in their 70’s being quite traumatised by becoming “orphans” after all four of their parents died in a short period of time.

Also it can be traumatic for “onlies” (like me) when their parents die, and the parents were “older” parents as mine were, there is the realisation that at times there is no one with whom to talk about childhood memories or talk about family events.

Also there are some more “crises” still to come, which some people will surmount easily and some won’t - retirement, moving into a smaller home. A least life isn’t dull.
 
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