How do you explain Mormons paying tithing before important obligations?

[StrawberryJam]

Hello StrawberryJam,

No, you are not wasting your time seeking in the Catholic Church. May God continue to bless you and guide you.

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I just want to add a little more information to the OP. The man has been owed for five years approximately $7,000 for a loan he took to help the Mormon pay some backed up mortgage payment and so the person would not loose her house (who is a relative of the man that converted to Mormonism). The payments of the loan was never paid so the man paid the loan to save his credit. Recently, on account that the social security check would be arriving he lent an addition $3,000 to help the person out to pay for basic necessities.

This man was so noble and kind that he told the Mormon to only pay him $2500 when her $17,000 check arrives and the rest to pay $100 per month. Why he is sooooo upset is that he did not get the $2500 after waiting for it, period, and he is of course well justified. But, it really bothers him that she paid tithing of, it was actually more than $1,700 (I just got off the phone with him…he is having a difficult time with this and is upset) she paid $2,300 because she owed tithing.

Furthermore, it is not true that the mormon church takes care of people. Mormons loose their homes, children go hungry, etc… They have a limit on the food they offer families that are going thru a difficult economic situation. They do help but, I have not seen them help more than what they have received. Perhaps, someplace else they do but not around where I live. They may also pay a mortgage payment but that’s about it.

This Mormon’s salary averaged for many years $300,000 and she paid her tithing not only on her salary but on every money she received, gifts, inheritance, anything adn everything. Now, she does not have anything as she is ill and cannot work and will probably loose her house.

Well, it all looks very irresponsible and selfish to me. How can someone go and offer a gift to God and leave a 70 year old man in the state that this man is in? This is not Christian.

Without going into these very disturbing updates, we have a basis to object to the idea on face.
We all realize that we all have obligations to do what we can, where we can and how we can at all times.
At least, that is my hope that we can all agree with.
When a chuch talks about things in a very dogmatic way about titles and defending them (at great cost financially)
This applies to both churches now…

They are spending money given to them by some who are giving up food to do so or forgoing basic human needs to do so.

This is problematic.

Let me leave it there for now, without going into a long diatribe about how many cultures that had none were given so much in order to?

What was the goal exactly? Long or short?

I know this sounds very disconnected, and I apologize for that. I guess, I clinged to the idea that catholics would never ever stoop so low to shake down the poor like this,.

 

[zaffiroborant]

What is true about the LDS church is this:

First, pay tithing. The promise is that if you have the faith to do this, you will be able to do everything else, and receive blessings…"windows of heaven’ opening and all that. I can testify that this works, actually. (Actually I know a few people that never paid tithing anywhere and amazingly enough they had in the midst of financial disaster enough money to pay their debts, you know anecdote for anecdote)

In reality, what we are told to so is: first, pay tithing. Then we are told to pay our bills. The idea is, if you pay your tithing, you WILL be able to pay your bills.

Now as to the friend of the OP…there is always more than one side to any story. While it is unfortunate that the cancer is back, what was the agreement regarding the loan? If the Mormon had promised to pay that ten grand back out of the Social Security payment, then of course the Mormon is completely at fault if he doesn’t keep his promise. If the payback agreement was something else, like regular payments or in some other way, then it is, quite frankly, none of the OP’s business what sort of money the Mormon got, when, or how…and CERTAINLY it is none of his business whether the Mormon decided to pay tithing first!

As well, since this Social Security payment was given YESTERDAY, it’s a bit soon for someone to complain that he wasn’t paid back yet.

Back to church policy: we are asked to have faith, and pay tithing. I know from personal experience, having had my own husband deal with extremely poor health before he contracted the throat cancer that killed him, that we were asked to pay tithing. We had lost his income. I couldn’t work because I had five kids and was taking care of HIM.

…but we paid tithing.

And the church paid those bills we couldn’t, like the mortgage, utility bills and food, and it did this for us for nearly two years. Trust me, our tithing didn’t come close to covering those expenses.

I strongly suggest that, before you unilaterally condemn the church…and this specific Mormon…for what happened here, you get the rest of the story.

AND you might want to wait a little longer than a day before you and your friend decide that the Mormon is an evil deadbeat.

And if paying tithing doesn’t result in the vending machine ability to pay one’s bills, what happens then?

Whether and which bills are paid by the church for tithe paying members is totally up to the discretion of your local leadership this is not a given. They helped you get by with living expenses and mortgage payments but what about people who are beyond that? Will the church cover credit card payments,(you know they still have the stuff they bought on the card) loans from home improvement projects,(still benefiting from solving the basement water problem) services provided(still got the 2 months of cable internet or what ever) that have not been paid? Why should I pay for folks who received goods and services and decided to give money to your church before they paid for the things I paid for. You fared well other may not and it does nothing to address the issue of whether or not the LDS church should come before legitimate debtors, ya know the people who gave stuff and time and talent and have their own bills to pay.

 

[Michael_Francis]

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