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I doubt many lepers would get kissed on this forum!:hug1:
St. Francis kissed the leper, “and that which was bitter became sweet.”
And the leper revealed himself as Christ.
Maybe the sign of peace is a challenge to us to reach out and embrace the Christ that is within us all: the Christ we are soon to meet in the Eucharist.
If we can’t greet Christ in the pew next to us, how can we dare consume Christ in the Host?![]()
Its more than “a nice sentiment” its an ancient part of the Mass. In the Eastern liturgies the sign/kiss of peace was given at the offertory. In the West it was moved from the offertory to after the Our Father.Okay, so the Sign of Peace is definitely a nice sentiment.
Thanks Father. I am reminded of Dorothy Day who was known to take vermin infested homeless into her home and bed if necessary. I’d call that heroic charity. A few colds shouldn’t bother us much unless we are immune compromised.Its more than “a nice sentiment” its an ancient part of the Mass. In the Eastern liturgies the sign/kiss of peace was given at the offertory. In the West it was moved from the offertory to after the Our Father.
newadvent.org/cathen/08663a.htm
This may be a nice lovey-dovey story but the Sign of Peace is disruptive.St. Francis kissed the leper, “and that which was bitter became sweet.”
And the leper revealed himself as Christ.
Maybe the sign of peace is a challenge to us to reach out and embrace the Christ that is within us all: the Christ we are soon to meet in the Eucharist.
If we can’t greet Christ in the pew next to us, how can we dare consume Christ in the Host?![]()
As do I, the sign of peace is about the only time you have face to face contact with those around you.I love it.
It’s not very lovey dovey to shake hands with a stranger. I don;t get where everyone thinks the sign of peace is so airey fairy, or lovey-dovey. Apparently, reading these posts, it’s one of the most despicable acts that a person can doThis may be a nice lovey-dovey story but the Sign of Peace is disruptive.
There is no Sign of Peace in the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite or in the Byzantine Rite, and in the Ambrosian Rite, it is wisely positioned at the Offertory (which is more in line with Scripture) and even in the modern Roman Rite, is optional.
Shall we then say that we shall not dare receive Christ in the other rites or forms because there is no handshaking lovefest there?
Yes. And to top it off, our pastor asks us to do it twice, once at the beginning of Mass and once during the sign of peace. My wife and I carry small vials of Germ-X for use after handshakes. If someone around us is sneezing or coughing excessively, we move.Okay, so the Sign of Peace is definitely a nice sentiment. But I really don’t enjoy shaking people’s hands. Especially in the winter with cold and flu season. It would be one thing if it was AFTER taking the Eucharist, but it’s not. So you watch someone sneeze, then s/he shakes your hand, and then you go up, get the Eucharist in your hands, and in goes the Body of Christ and all of your fellow parishioners’ germs.
Does anyone else feel this way?
Nice sentiments but no thanks. Christ is on the altar par excellence and that mode of presence takes precedence over the other forms, such as in the assembly. The Church does not equate the Eucharistic presence with the assembly and neither do I.It’s not very lovey dovey to shake hands with a stranger. I don;t get where everyone thinks the sign of peace is so airey fairy, or lovey-dovey. Apparently, reading these posts, it’s one of the most despicable acts that a person can do
Of course it’s disruptive. The Eucharist is disruptive! The incarnation is disruptive! God broke into our history “to draw all into one in Him.”
Of course it disrupts the mass - mass is disruptive, and takes it’s name from the command of the priest at the end of the Liturgy - get out and be disruptive in the world!!!
If I can’t shake hands with my neighbour, how am I gong to handle visiting him in prison, or when sick. How am I gong to feed and clothe him?
I hate someone else’s snot on me! On the other hand it was good training for when I was a prison chaplain and I got sneezed on by a guy with AIDS, or when I held his sweaty, clammy hand as he lay sick and dying.
I don’t like it either. I think it’s grossly over-sentimental and I feel it’s very contrived. It breaks the train of prayerful thought.This may be a nice lovey-dovey story but the Sign of Peace is disruptive.
There is no Sign of Peace in the Extraordinary Form of the Roman Rite or in the Byzantine Rite, and in the Ambrosian Rite, it is wisely positioned at the Offertory (which is more in line with Scripture) and even in the modern Roman Rite, is optional.
Shall we then say that we shall not dare receive Christ in the other rites or forms because there is no handshaking lovefest there?
I don’t. I receive COTT and wear gloves in Church.Okay, so the Sign of Peace is definitely a nice sentiment. But I really don’t enjoy shaking people’s hands. Especially in the winter with cold and flu season. It would be one thing if it was AFTER taking the Eucharist, but it’s not. So you watch someone sneeze, then s/he shakes your hand, and then you go up, get the Eucharist in your hands, and in goes the Body of Christ and all of your fellow parishioners’ germs.
Does anyone else feel this way?
As previously mentioned its not contrived. Its part of the ancient liturgies of both the East and West.I don’t like it either. I think it’s grossly over-sentimental and I feel it’s very contrived. It breaks the train of prayerful thought.
Ah, but the EF is not the only form of Mass that’s existed in the Church for the past 2000 years.But there is a Sign of Peace, rather the Kiss of Peace, in the EF. It is only done at High Mass, and then only between clerics. It is a very formal ritual, with exacting movements, so I think it works in the EF.