How do you interpret passages the Bible?

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If the Bible cannot be take literal then what is the point of it? If you can’t take one story within it as literal, then why should you take the idea of a god literal? Like previously mentioned, other books such as Lord of the Rings also presents us with the same or similar ideological concepts as the bible. So what is the difference?
 
If the Bible cannot be take literal then what is the point of it? If you can’t take one story within it as literal, then why should you take the idea of a god literal? Like previously mentioned, other books such as Lord of the Rings also presents us with the same or similar ideological concepts as the bible. So what is the difference?
One is God-breathed and one is not.

What are you trying to take literal?The 6 days of Creation? Or what God is trying to tell us in the Creation account? There’s a huge difference.

For instance, what would the ancient world have thought if the Creation account included billions of years of evolution (with a Divine hand behind it) and plants and animals rising out of the primordial ooze?
 
“If the Bible cannot be taken literal then what is the point of it? If you can’t take one story within it as literal, then why should you take the idea of a god literal?”

As a Catholic you are allowed to take a literal interpretation of Sacred Scripture.

Nothing wrong with literal, however I believe somewhere at sometime comments have been made by the Church that science and religion can’t be at odds with one another.

When Sacred Scripture writes that God told Moses to write that He made the heavens and the earth in 6 days, who am I to deny the ability of God?

I can not speak, and from nothing - make a “some thing”. God can. God the Father did at the creation event and God the Son - did each time He cured a person both in body and in soul.

I respect, the people who believe in a literal interpretation of Sacred Scripture. Mentally, they have a BIG God concept.

I am a “doubting Thomas” on the literal interpretation of Sacred Scripture.

I hate to say it, but my God is quite small - UNTIL - I “see, touch, smell, hear” how large He really is. How sad for me, that the proof of the historical accountability of Sacred Scripture must come through validation by “human” scientific discovery.

However, what pleases me greatly, is that human scientific discovery does go “kicking and screaming” toward the validation of the power of God.
 
If the Bible cannot be take literal then what is the point of it? If you can’t take one story within it as literal, then why should you take the idea of a god literal? Like previously mentioned, other books such as Lord of the Rings also presents us with the same or similar ideological concepts as the bible. So what is the difference?
Excellent question. Everyone has to eventually struggle through this question.

The Church Fathers gave us four levels of interpretation. The first one is literal. That’s the starting place. If you can’t get that one, you can’t get the next three.

But after having absorbed the literal reading into one’s inner being, other and deeper meanings can be discerned. Consider: what’s the point of “Little Red Riding Hood” ? Is is a literal historical account? (No) But does it have meaning? (Yes) Does the lack of historical literal-ness detract from the meaning of the story? (No)

We could list 1000 other stories that have great meaning and have withstood the test of time despite not being literally true. The point is that literal truth is not necessary for ultimate truth. However, with the Bible, you are supposed to start with a literal reading, and grow into other depths. Some parts of the Bible can only be interpretted literally. Example: if there was no literal Jesus who literally died and literally came back to life, the entire religion of Christianity is FALSE, period, full stop, done deal. That’s not negotiable. There is no alternative.
 
The Holy Bible has different styles of prose. Additionally, context is important to interpretation. This is true of many large collections of writings.

The really good news on this issue is that you do not have to depend on your own interpretation. Your understanding should be guided by the Magisterium. Study Bibles that follow their teaching are very helpful.
 
The point is that literal truth is not necessary for ultimate truth. However, with the Bible, you are supposed to start with a literal reading, and grow into other depths. Some parts of the Bible can only be interpretted literally. Example: if there was no literal Jesus who literally died and literally came back to life, the entire religion of Christianity is FALSE, period, full stop, done deal. That’s not negotiable. There is no alternative.
And yet, some work so hard to “force” a literal interpretation For example, about the crucifixion, that mode of punishment was not merely about killing someone. It was about making a public point about what happens to people who do what Jesus did. To make that point, generally, a crucified body was left on public display for days or weeks. Why would the authorities put a body on public display, and then take it down after a couple of hours?
They wouldn’t. So that part of the story is difficult to take literally, at least for me.
 
And yet, some work so hard to “force” a literal interpretation For example, about the crucifixion, that mode of punishment was not merely about killing someone. It was about making a public point about what happens to people who do what Jesus did. To make that point, generally, a crucified body was left on public display for days or weeks. Why would the authorities put a body on public display, and then take it down after a couple of hours?
They wouldn’t. So that part of the story is difficult to take literally, at least for me.
Except that the Jews needed the body down before the Passover Sabbath.

Remember, Pilot didn’t think Jesus did anything wrong, so why would he insist that Jesus’ body remain on display?

I get the point of your post, but I think a literal interpretation of the entire New Testament is necessary… except, of course, for Revelation.
 
If the Bible cannot be take literal then what is the point of it? If you can’t take one story within it as literal, then why should you take the idea of a god literal? Like previously mentioned, other books such as Lord of the Rings also presents us with the same or similar ideological concepts as the bible. So what is the difference?
Scripture is polyvalent, that is, has many meanings and one of them is the literal. Yes, I take most of it literal. I say most because I can think of one verse that’s hard to take literal: Matt 5:29 which says, " And if thy right eye scandalize thee, pluck it out and cast it from thee…" The other meanings can be taken such as the spiritual. This would mean to turn away from seeing anything that may lead you to sin. If you read the context, Jesus is talking about what’s in the heart. Read the next few verses and you will see this. When I come across any verse I want to understand, I read it in context - I read the verses around it and any cross references.
 
Without a doubt the Bible is to be taken literally. But it can also be interpreted in other ways too, such as life application, allegorically, analogically, etc.
 
Without a doubt the Bible is to be taken literally. But it can also be interpreted in other ways too, such as life application, allegorically, analogically, etc.
Is there an objective way for telling which parts are literal and which are not, without resorting to looking at the world around us?
 
If it is God’s Holy Spirit that allows believers to correctly interpret scripture, to non-believers, it looks like foolishness…That’s why only believers can correctly interpret it.

How do we know when it’s God’s Holy Spirit guiding the believer and how do we tell when it’s just a nut case who wants to control others through his interpretation of scripture?
 
Is there an objective way for telling which parts are literal and which are not, without resorting to looking at the world around us?
Most of the time we interpret Scripture literally, but we must realize Scripture speaks metaphorically or symboically at times, which is not to be taken as anything but a symbol or metaphor. But it is proper to realize that those metaphors do mean something specifically and are not to be generalized or brushed off as something totally allegorical, at least not as the primary interpretation. Usually those metaphors and symbolic language can be understood clearly by other passages of Scripture or oftentimes good ol’ common sense. Some symbolic language such as we see in Revelation takes a great deal of study which requires all of Scripture to be consulted and factored in.

But we can also see from the New Testament that allegory has a place in interpreting Scripture, since the NT authors themselves did so, as well as analogically and morally.
 
If it is God’s Holy Spirit that allows believers to correctly interpret scripture, to non-believers, it looks like foolishness…That’s why only believers can correctly interpret it.

How do we know when it’s God’s Holy Spirit guiding the believer and how do we tell when it’s just a nut case who wants to control others through his interpretation of scripture?
That is done by following the Church that Jesus Christ established, that is the Catholic Church.
 
Billwjb,

*“And yet, some work so hard to “force” a literal interpretation For example, about the crucifixion, that mode of punishment was not merely about killing someone. It was about making a public point about what happens to people who do what Jesus did. To make that point, generally, a crucified body was left on public display for days or weeks. Why would the authorities put a body on public display, and then take it down after a couple of hours?
They wouldn’t. So that part of the story is difficult to take literally, at least for me.” *

Where do you have Jesus picking up the rest of the Gospels, His 3 days in the tomb, His Resurrection?

"He (Jesus) said to them in reply, “An evil and unfaithful generation seeks a sign, but no sign will be given it except the sign of Jonah the prophet. Just as Jonah was in the belly of the whale three days and three nights, so will the Son of Man be in the heart of the earth three days and three nights.” Mark 12:40

Christians in the Early Church celebrated Sunday because Jesus rose from the dead on “the day of the Sun” (see Justin Martyrs’ writings).

I’d suggest that you rent the movie “Star of Bethlahem” by Rick Larson. He uses Scripture and a NASA computer program built on Kepler’s Laws of Planetary Motion to pin point the dates of Jesus’ birth, death, and resurrection.

See also the trailor at: youtube.com/watch?v=venqYheEqic
 
And yet, some work so hard to “force” a literal interpretation For example, about the crucifixion, that mode of punishment was not merely about killing someone. It was about making a public point about what happens to people who do what Jesus did. To make that point, generally, a crucified body was left on public display for days or weeks. Why would the authorities put a body on public display, and then take it down after a couple of hours?
They wouldn’t. So that part of the story is difficult to take literally, at least for me.
(emphasis added) Talk about the pot calling the kettle black. You are forcing assumptions upon the text. You know, maybe that’s not what Roman governors did all the time. And maybe that’s never what they did at the three annual holiday seasons when 99% of the Jewish families in the whole world were in Jerusalem. Think “crowd control.” The crowd was big. The crowd wanted the bodies buried. Nobody wanted a riot. Ergo, it was in the best interest of everybody for the Roman governor to get the bodies off the crosses and get them buried.

My point is that sometimes the easy stuff is actually easy.
 
Most of the time we interpret Scripture literally, but we must realize Scripture speaks metaphorically or symboically at times, which is not to be taken as anything but a symbol or metaphor. But it is proper to realize that those metaphors do mean something specifically and are not to be generalized or brushed off as something totally allegorical, at least not as the primary interpretation. Usually those metaphors and symbolic language can be understood clearly by other passages of Scripture or oftentimes good ol’ common sense. Some symbolic language such as we see in Revelation takes a great deal of study which requires all of Scripture to be consulted and factored in.

But we can also see from the New Testament that allegory has a place in interpreting Scripture, since the NT authors themselves did so, as well as analogically and morally.
That doesn’t answer the question, though. Is there a way, using only the Bible, to tell what is literal and what is symbolic?
 
Excellent question. Everyone has to eventually struggle through this question.

The Church Fathers gave us four levels of interpretation. The first one is literal. That’s the starting place. If you can’t get that one, you can’t get the next three.

But after having absorbed the literal reading into one’s inner being, other and deeper meanings can be discerned. Consider: what’s the point of “Little Red Riding Hood” ? Is is a literal historical account? (No) But does it have meaning? (Yes) Does the lack of historical literal-ness detract from the meaning of the story? (No) .
what are the other 3 levels of interpretation?
 
Most of the time we interpret Scripture literally, but we must realize Scripture speaks metaphorically or symboically at times, which is not to be taken as anything but a symbol or metaphor. But it is proper to realize that those metaphors do mean something specifically and are not to be generalized or brushed off as something totally allegorical, at least not as the primary interpretation. Usually those metaphors and symbolic language can be understood clearly by other passages of Scripture or oftentimes good ol’ common sense. Some symbolic language such as we see in Revelation takes a great deal of study which requires all of Scripture to be consulted and factored in.
So that is a “No” on being able to tell us which parts are metaphorical and which arn’t then.
But we can also see from the New Testament that allegory has a place in interpreting Scripture, since the NT authors themselves did so, as well as analogically and morally.
So we have to already know which bits are alegory and which bits aren’t before we acan know which bits are alogory and which bits arn’t? :huh:

You must remember that the Bible says that the devil will pretend divinity, so if we believe the bible, then the bible could ahve been written by the devil pretending to be God (hey, Iif I were the devil that would be the first thing I would think of doing
 
what are the other 3 levels of interpretation?
The traditional four levels are: literal, allegorical, moral, and eschatological.

As an example, the word “Jerusalem” literally refers to the city is Israel. Allegorically it could refer to either the church of Christ, or the Jewish nation. (Medieval theologians would probably prefer Christ, as they were looking for him in the Old Testament.) Morally “Jerusalem” might indicate the human soul. Eschatologically it would mean heaven.
 
*“And yet, some work so hard to “force” a literal interpretation For example, about the crucifixion, that mode of punishment was not merely about killing someone. It was about making a public point about what happens to people who do what Jesus did. To make that point, generally, a crucified body was left on public display for days or weeks. Why would the authorities put a body on public display, and then take it down after a couple of hours?
They wouldn’t. So that part of the story is difficult to take literally, at least for me.” *

Where do you have Jesus picking up the rest of the Gospels, His 3 days in the tomb, His Resurrection?
I believe that the elements of the crucifixion story were evolved into it by the influence of prophetic old testament scriptures. My own non-scholarly belief is that Jesus hung on the cross for a long time, at least for many days, and most likely the elements and scavengers took their toll.

Jesus lived and died in a “mystical” society, where visions and appearances were not uncommon. Moreover, people in that society would accept an appearance in a dream as every bit as authentic as an appearance while awake. I believe that most if not all of the appearances were in dreams, which could very possibly have begun after three days or so. The appearances of a glorified Jesus rather than a ravaged rescuscitated corpse would be consistent as dream appearances. I am confident that if we knew where to look, and if time and the burial practices of the era did not erode them away, we might very well unearth the complete remains of Jesus the man some day. For me, the resurrection was not a physical event.
 
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