How do you interpret this scripture?

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I’m going to go out on a limb here, and agree with you. I personally feel that if one performs a good work or works…and solely does it because it is “considered required”, while they may believe they are doing what God wants…I don’t believe it is done in the spirit of love and charity with a glad heart. One who is forced to do something has no desire to do the act, whereas one who does so gladly and of their own volition and a genuine desire to help others…without keeping a scorecard…does so out of love for his fellow man, and out of love for God…and in doing so…is showing his love and reverence for God in deed and action. The other person…is doing it as an undesired homework assignment.

Frankly…I think God will look at the two differently.
Thanks for agreeing. I listened to that Catholic station 88.4 in Oregon again… on the way back from my business trip. I really enjoyed it. The worship music almost seem to come from Protestant hymnals and also contemporary Protestant song writers. I find that version of Roman Catholicism to be refreshing and enjoyable.
 
I’m sure motive isn’t in the Bible, but I would think motive would mean a lot. If one does a kind act in order to make oneself appear holly or good to others, I would imagine that would mean less than an act done having someone else’s care in mind, or doing it only for the love of God.

Distracted, you didn’t make too much sense. Also if Jeremiah says man is full of deceit and wickedness, the folks he was talking about hadn’t been baptized yet.👍
If a person feeds the hungry, visits prisoners, etc… he is doing the will of God… regardless of motive… True someone who does the same thing with a pure motive (love of neighbor) will get a greater reward in Heaven… but the one with less than perfect motive is doing the will of God… & i really doubt many people do such good deeds just because they want to look good to others…

You shouldn’t be interpreting scripture as though your interpretation is infallible… that scriopture in Jeremiah was describing human nature… that applies to all humans…

and the fact that you are so negative toward me rather proves the point…
If one is in the state of Mortal Sin, one can do works of mercy out the whazoo, but they won’t be worth a hoot n toot.
 
In St. Matthew 22:1-14 Jesus says that the kingdom of Heaven may be likened to a king who gave a wedding feast for his son. He dispatched his servants to summon the invited guests to the feast but they refused to come… He kept inviting - and people kept refusing…

"Some ignored the invitation and went away, one to his farm, another to his buisness. The rest laid hold of his servants, mistreated them, and killed them. The king was eneraged and sent his troops, destroyed those murderers, and burned their city. Then the king said to his servants, “The feast is ready, but those who were invited were not worthy to come. Go out, therefore, into the main roads and invite to the feast whomever you find.’ The servants went out into the streets and gathered all they found, bad and good alike, and the hall was filled with guests. But when the king came in to meet the guests he saw a man there not dressed in a wedding garment. He said to him, “My firend, how is it that you came in here without a wedding garment?” But he was reduced to silence. Then the king said to his attendants, ‘bind his hands and feet, and cast him into the darkness outside, where there will be wailing and grinding of teeth.’ Many are invited, but few are chosen.”

What, exactly, is the wedding garment??? :confused:
It refers to the supercession of the specifically mosaic covenant and the inclusion of Gentiles in the New Covenant. The language is very strong, I do not believe it can be made to say that Jesus rejects the Jews in toto but should probably be seen as an identification of the temple and political leadership as well as all those “stiff necked” prophet-rejecting children of the covenant before His earthly sojourn.

I believe the wedding garments are Christ Himself; i.e. most simply, Baptism.
 
It refers to the supercession of the specifically mosaic covenant and the inclusion of Gentiles in the New Covenant. The language is very strong, I do not believe it can be made to say that Jesus rejects the Jews in toto but should probably be seen as an identification of the temple and political leadership as well as all those “stiff necked” prophet-rejecting children of the covenant before His earthly sojourn.

I believe the wedding garments are Christ Himself; i.e. most simply, Baptism.
We are talking Sanctifying Grace first received through Baptism. Nothing to do with the Jews other than Christ and the Apostles.😉
 
We are talking Sanctifying Grace first received through Baptism. Nothing to do with the Jews other than Christ and the Apostles.😉
I disagree.

The servants the king sends out are the prophets.

Jesus uses exactly the same imagery in the parable of the tenants (Mark 12:1-9).

As for the idea of the wedding garment being Christ in Baptism, please see Gal. 3:26-27.
 
I disagree.

The servants the king sends out are the prophets.

Jesus uses exactly the same imagery in the parable of the tenants (Mark 12:1-9).

As for the idea of the wedding garment being Christ in Baptism, please see Gal. 3:26-27.
Didn’t say the wedding garment was Christ in Baptism. It is Sanctifying Grace.

newadvent.org/cathen/11460a.htm

The marriage of the king’s son (Matthew 22:1-14)
NEW ADVENT

"the wedding garment is sanctifying grace, “put ye on the Lord Jesus” (Romans 13:14). Thus Iren., IV, xxxvi; Tert., “De resurrect. carnis”, xxvii, etc. "

Don’t take my word for it, visit the website of New Advent above.😉
 
I understood that your originial posting stated that the Bible does not speak about our motives. I’m saying our motive is everything.
No it isn’t… but you can believe wahtever you want.
 
I know what you said, I’m just letting you know that I believe you to be mistaken.
NEW ADVENT WEBSITE

The marriage of the king’s son (Matthew 22:1-14)
NEW ADVENT

"the wedding garment is sanctifying grace, “put ye on the Lord Jesus” (Romans 13:14). Thus Iren., IV, xxxvi; Tert., “De resurrect. carnis”, xxvii, etc. "

Is it possible there is more than one interpretation?:confused:
 
NEW ADVENT WEBSITE

The marriage of the king’s son (Matthew 22:1-14)
NEW ADVENT

"the wedding garment is sanctifying grace, “put ye on the Lord Jesus” (Romans 13:14). Thus Iren., IV, xxxvi; Tert., “De resurrect. carnis”, xxvii, etc. "

Is it possible there is more than one interpretation?:confused:
The Bible says that without holiness, it is impossible to please God. Holiness, of course, means not sinning… & expiating the sins we have committed… (offering up sufferings for that purpose, doing charitable things, etc…)

If people would just obey God’s word, they would be get to Heaven… 🙂
 
The Bible says that without holiness, it is impossible to please God. Holiness, of course, means not sinning… & expiating the sins we have committed… (offering up sufferings for that purpose, doing charitable things, etc…)

If people would just obey God’s word, they would be get to Heaven… 🙂
I believe that Christ atoned for all of our sins. The atonement is two-fold including expiation and propitiation. Does the Roman Catholic Church teach that we have to atone for our own sins?
 
I believe that Christ atoned for all of our sins. The atonement is two-fold including expiation and propitiation. Does the Roman Catholic Church teach that we have to atone for our own sins?
Yes it does…

Jesus’ crucifixion did not change the nature of sin and its consequences…

Jesus gave us the remedy for sin (Himself). To be in Him (& He in us - Communion) is to be on our way to Heaven (St. John 6:27-54, etc), though we may have to go through Purgatory to get there… In fact everyone does goes through Purgatory (no Maybe to it), whether in this life alone and/or in the next… because to live for Christ as we should, as is shown to us in the Word, is to suffer tremendously (“You will be hated by all because of Me”). The world at large is not living for Christ and as you may know… to constantly live around people who are not on that same Christian page… is Hell on Earth… (Purgatory).
 
The Bible says that without holiness, it is impossible to please God. Holiness, of course, means not sinning… & expiating the sins we have committed… (offering up sufferings for that purpose, doing charitable things, etc…)

If people would just obey God’s word, they would be get to Heaven… 🙂
Yes, and if people would love one another, be willing to sacrifice for them no matter what, it would be much easier to do this.👍
 
Yes, and if people would love one another, be willing to sacrifice for them no matter what, it would be much easier to do this.👍
i’ve had this thought…

and i painfully had to conclude that maybe it would have to begin with me… I, who am not good at initiating much of anything…

but charity really does begin “at home”… within a person…
 
i’ve had this thought…

and i painfully had to conclude that maybe it would have to begin with me… I, who am not good at initiating much of anything…

but charity really does begin “at home”… within a person…
Yes, but you know what? I have found it is much easier to “love” at a distance than loving someone closer, whether it be family or friend. It is so much easier for me to love my fellow humans in another country than someone I have to deal with face to face. :eek:
 
Yes, but you know what? I have found it is much easier to “love” at a distance than loving someone closer, whether it be family or friend. It is so much easier for me to love my fellow humans in another country than someone I have to deal with face to face. :eek:
No Kidding!!! I think we could all say that… Those pepole in far away countries can’t hurt us… reject us… criticize us… etc…

It is sometimes hard to discern when it is time to pluck out our right eye… (cut off a relationship that is not healthy, that may be causing us to sin…)… this one priest has a “talk” he did once on tape… (cd)… called Detaching with Love… The title says it all… Jesus says to love him more than brother, sister, mother, father, etc… even more than our very lives… but we must detach with love… Not always so easy… 😦
 
Yes, and if people would love one another, be willing to sacrifice for them no matter what, it would be much easier to do this.👍
True… but i think some people have a mistaken idea of exactly how thye should do this… (sacrificing…)…

i have seen, for example, women who stayed in abusive relationships because they didn’t believe they should leave hteir husbands (religious grounds)… would say that the wife is to be submissive to husband, etc…

Jesus said to love others AS yourself… not more than yourself… & besides… letting someone abuse you is not even loving toward the abuser… it is just enabling him to continue in sin…

Some Christian magazine i read yrs ago, the denomination of which i do not recall… had an advice column & the woman (editor?) told this other woman who wrote in to stay with her severely abusive husband. BAD ADVICE… (although it is also true that abusers DO get more abusive when the woman tries to leave…). In any case, no one should subject him or herself to someone else’s abusive ways… in the so-called name of love… and obedience… for one thing, one 's first loyalty is to Christ… who would, of course, never abuse anyone… 🙂

Something els has been shown to me, though… that sometimes people “abuse” as a way of shielding themselves from hurt… Maybe thye firgure that if they hurt someone else first… they will not be hurt when the other person… does something hurtful to them…

anyway… i guess i just wanted to make the poiint that loving and sacrificing are not… always… “good”… I feel the word LOvE is the most abused and mis-used word in the English or any other language… maybe there are virtually as many definitions of that word… as there are people in the world… :confused:
 
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