How do you love others for the sake of God?

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What’s the difference between natural affection between friends and family versus love of friends/family for the sake of God?

How is it possible to love God first without being a monk, nun, religious, etc?
 
What’s the difference between natural affection between friends and family versus love of friends/family for the sake of God?

How is it possible to love God first without being a monk, nun, religious, etc?
When you love friends and your family for “the sake of God”, it means that you want what is best for them as long as it is good for their salvation. We are all called to love God first, and this flows from our prayer life, and well-prepared attitudes in receiving the sacraments of reconciliation and the Eucharist.

We are all called to be sanctified according to our state in life.

Did I somehow answer your question?
 
When we share their burden.
Being the hands and feet of Christ even with the people that are HARD to love.
The know-it-alls, the cranky the sickly who refuse help, the kids who think they already know everything. We have to interact with all of these with tenderness, love, and kindness even if it’s hard.

It’s helpful to recall the words of Our Lord:

“Father forgive them…for they know not what they do”.

He loved all of us…in spite of ourselves and our issues.

God bless you!
 
+JMJ+

We can’t.

Not alone at least. We have to let God help us love Him.
 
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We can’t.

Not alone at least. We have to let God help us love Him.
We CAN, and honor God by doing so. Free will. It’s real. And very pleasing to God when properly applied.
 
Thank you everyone for your answers.

I guess I tend to see things in binary manner: either this or that.

The worst is the possibility of people I know ending up in hell (granted, I need to work on my own soul)

Will I not care? Will I be sad? But there is no sadness in heaven

The fond memories — will they just disappear?

Am I being too attached to earthly things? (Probably)

It seems that any thought that’s not directly “of God” is somehow a sin and placing Him second…

But I don’t think I’m called to be a hermit subsisting on carrots…
 
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We CAN, and honor God by doing so. Free will. It’s real. And very pleasing to God when properly applied.
Are you telling me you do not sin? Ever?

And also, please tell me where I implied free will is not “real” or needed in my post.
 
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Thank you everyone for your answers.

I guess I tend to see things in binary manner: either this or that.

The worst is the possibility of people I know ending up in hell (granted, I need to work on my own soul)

Will I not care? Will I be sad? But there is no sadness in heaven

The fond memories — will they just disappear?

Am I being too attached to earthly things? (Probably)

It seems that any thought that’s not directly “of God” is somehow a sin and placing Him second…

But I don’t think I’m called to be a hermit subsisting on carrots…
I honestly don’t know much how we’re going to handle the fond memories or remembering the people that are in hell when we are in heaven. I will let the theologians handle that, or we can know when we go there after we die 🙂

But having “any thought that’s not directly “of God”” as a sin I am pretty sure is not true. We are only human, we do not have the stamina to have one train of thought all our lives!

All we can do is “do all things to the glory of God” (1 Corinthians 10:31), but even while doing those things we cannot all the time think about God and divine things. What if we have to concentrate on our work? Isn’t it a greater sin if by thinking about God we lose our concentration and cause our work to fail or, even worse, cause an accident?

What about in leisure time? Play is, according to St. Thomas Aquinas, the rest of the soul as repose is rest of the body (source). If by always thinking about God we do not enjoy our playing (which is its whole reason) then we put our soul into danger, for we never let it rest as it is dangerous to let the body have no rest, and is therefore a sin.

There are many saints who are not religious nor clergy, and most of them are not even declared saints.
 
+JMJ+

Are you telling me you do not sin? Ever?

And also, please tell me where I implied free will is not “real” or needed in my post.
No, you assume incorrectly. :rolleyes:

What I mean to say, is that if we cannot love others for the sake of God, what then, is the vocation of priests and religious?
Is that not their vocation? To serve and love others?

Everyone can do this.
It has nothing to do with being a sinner. Even sinners can, and often DO great things for the kingdom. St. Theresa of Calcutta considered herself a sinner, but clearly she is one that very obviously loved others, particularly the ones that others found hard to love.
 
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No, you assume incorrectly. :rolleyes:

What I mean to say, is that if we cannot love others for the sake of God, what then, is the vocation of priests and religious?
Is that not their vocation? To serve and love others?

Everyone can do this.
It has nothing to do with being a sinner. Even sinners can, and often DO great things for the kingdom. St. Theresa of Calcutta considered herself a sinner, but clearly she is one that very obviously loved others, particularly the ones that others found hard to love.
Again, I ask: do you never sin? Sin is when you do not love God as you ought.

CCC 1849 Sin is an offense against reason, truth, and right conscience; it is failure in genuine love for God and neighbor caused by a perverse attachment to certain goods.

And if you do sin, can you then love God again, alone, without the help of God?

One more thing: the vocation to love others for the sake of God is the vocation of everyone.
 
My sinfulness is none of your business and it has little do with the OP’s query.

But as to the rest of your post, thanks fro making my point.
It seems can’t have a regular dialog without attacking.

No worries. I’ll unsubscribe, I have little interest in trying to explain it further.
 
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My sinfulness is none of your business and it has little do with the OP’s query.

But as to the rest of your post, thanks fro making my point.
It seems can’t have a regular dialog without attacking.

No worries. I’ll unsubscribe, I have little interest in trying to explain it further.
No worries too, I mean it’s just few simple questions, and a few simple answers were expected just to keep the discussion going. Ah well.
 
When we share their burden.
Being the hands and feet of Christ even with the people that are HARD to love.
The know-it-alls, the cranky the sickly who refuse help, the kids who think they already know everything. We have to interact with all of these with tenderness, love, and kindness even if it’s hard.

It’s helpful to recall the words of Our Lord:

“Father forgive them…for they know not what they do”.

He loved all of us…in spite of ourselves and our issues.

God bless you!
Truly difficult to love our neighbors like ourselves. Nothing is truly ever personal. People are who they are.
 
In my understanding, love in the context of God (as that’s loves essence) should be in the level of God, for love is of God as God is love, like scripture states.

I would say that even the natural affection you have comes from God also, from love, as God is the creator. The difference I would say, is that the “natural affection” doesn’t put truly love in it (as God is love, you need God), we don’t see that that “affection” should not just be an affection, it needs to change to be a decision to look for the welfare of the other. Love is charity, selfless acts towards the welfare of the other, towards was good for the other. Good is not what we think is good, but what is good for someone’s spirituality and what helps for the union of the other toward God. The natural affection stays or can stay as an affection only, but when God is in the equation it should elevate that affection to love, always (or at least try), or change that “love” (affection) to real love, to this decision to love. Love is not an instinct or a feeling it is the decision to love like Jesus loves.

The possibility of loving God relies in the ability of loving God in the vocation we are in. In the means you do everything with God in mind, referring that you do it in a good way, it doesn’t matter what you do. For example, if you have children, taking care of your children, is in part loving God, if you are a student, doing your homework and studying is in part about loving God. I believe that monks and religious always have chores, Mother Teresa had to take care of the sick, for example. The point is also, remembering to pray, as that is a direct line communication with God, doing the sacraments the way the Church states, and acting your duties in the vocation you are, always honoring God, therefore in a good way and consequently in a loving way, remembering that God is always with you. The point is that we don’t forget what we need to, to do good/love correctly, we need His Spirit. We need to act this faith in faith.

To love God we always need His grace, and our yes to that grace (the decision of our free will predisposed toward God and His ways), through faith and spirituality (faith acting, or acting in faith). To love others works the same way, we need His help and our yes to that help, to love others purely and correctly, that’s why the first commandment is the first, then we are able to love and have to love others like we love ourselves and love like Jesus loves.

Don’t worry much about people ending up in hell, as that will not help. Pray for those souls and act like God wants, maybe His grace will touch them through you. I like what Father Pacwa says, worrying about that is for management, I am on sales. Pray for sinners, for their eyes to open, that’s what Fatima states, our prayers are not in vain, we need to have faith.

I think, we cannot really know how heaven will be, because this world can for us seem to be “hellish” and “heavenish” at times. But even then what we can call heavenish can sometimes reside on our senses being somewhat satisfied, and because the feeling is good, we might think that is “heavenish”, and maybe we are far off. Therefore in my opinion we cannot truly comprehend heaven, but in faith we can believe that if God is the creator (our creator, our Lord who is Good), then He knows, really knows how we can be happy.
 
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