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Oneofthewomen
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Ahhh, OK, I get it now!! :doh2:
This is getting good, wish I did not have to go off to work!
I’ll be back…
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This is getting good, wish I did not have to go off to work!
I’ll be back…
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paperwight
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Please explain the first comment.
Also the second - how is it known what satanists say among themselves?
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MelanieAnne
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I can’t answer for the person who posted that and will leave that to them to answer with specifics and with their EVIDENCE from the Catechism.
I take the Eucharist on the tongue from a priest. I do this because I want there to be no idea that I am not receiving the Precious Body of Jesus/that I am hiding it in any way or desecrating it. And Blessed Teresa also made a comment (which I do not have the exact words of, so I won’t claim it to be a quote) that receiving in the hand is not the right thing to do.
And as a side note, Jesus is acting as the High Priest, through our Priest at Mass. It makes sense to me that only the hands of the priest should touch the Precious Body of Our Lord, just as Our Lord did at the Last Supper. When I receive the Precious Body directly from a Priest, there is no concern in this regard.
I cannot answer about the discussions of satanists and I cannot believe, truthfully, that satanists have anything to do with the Precious Body of Our Lord.
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Baloo
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I recieve COTT, unless it’s a lay Eucharistic minister. Then I’ll receive CITH.
I have also heard that Mother Theresa claimed that COTT should be the only way the Eucharist should be received.
I have also heard that Mother Theresa claimed that COTT should be the only way the Eucharist should be received.
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MarkThompson
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Not according to her order. This (and the frequently-bandied alleged quotation that CITH is the saddest thing in the whole wide world) is debunked by her order at this page. As they say, “Mother Teresa would not have contradicted the Church.”
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Pug
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I will receive on the tongue from someone besides a priest. A deacon is fine, an extraordinary minister is also fine. I prefer the deacon or extraordinary minister in my parish, since they don’t touch my lips, but I make no effort to pick a line other than the one my family is in.
(Usually the deacon is on the cup, though, of course.)
I should point out a feeling, though, that I have, so perhaps others do as well. I prefer not to approach the tabernacle myself. But I’ve had the priest send to me to the tabernacle to fill a pyx. So I obeyed. Still, if en route I were to encounter the deacon or a sacristan, I’d be happier having them fill it and not me, even though they are not priests. It is almost like they are a buffer.
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caplesta
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When I learned about the Church’s preference for receiving Him OTT I also decided to switch (back). (I had been earlier taught in the 80s that the “Church” required ITH.) In the last 10 yrs I saw my holiest friends receiving OTT; I thought it was more reverent. Since both means of receiption are allowed, it is good to explain when asked, but don’t push. Moral: Live the Love, it is attracting/attractive.
When my children were to receive their first Communion, the N.C. Register had a large pic with JP2 giving first Communion to children OTT. They wanted to receive as if from JP2 himself. Recently they have succombed to peer pressure at Catholic high school (sigh) to receive ITH.
When possible I position myself on the same side as the priest. When I get a curve ball (e.g. new priest) I don’t sweat it, because God knows I’m trying, and I shouldn’t make a scene at such a holy time. EMUs should be comfortable with both ways. If I come across one who is not, I figure I’m the teachable moment.
IMHO as a receiver in both modes, the mental/spiritual attitude of reception OTT is different and humbling (a gift, w/o my hands). A danger with ITH- Communion can seem a “right.” I have also seen people walk away with the Host, another plus for receiving OTT.
I also notice the phrase “receiving Communion” vs. “taking Communion” used. My mother in law was a convert and “took” Communion. When the tray was passed with tiny juice thimbles, one would “take” the juice. My husband sometimes still slips.
When my children were to receive their first Communion, the N.C. Register had a large pic with JP2 giving first Communion to children OTT. They wanted to receive as if from JP2 himself. Recently they have succombed to peer pressure at Catholic high school (sigh) to receive ITH.
When possible I position myself on the same side as the priest. When I get a curve ball (e.g. new priest) I don’t sweat it, because God knows I’m trying, and I shouldn’t make a scene at such a holy time. EMUs should be comfortable with both ways. If I come across one who is not, I figure I’m the teachable moment.
IMHO as a receiver in both modes, the mental/spiritual attitude of reception OTT is different and humbling (a gift, w/o my hands). A danger with ITH- Communion can seem a “right.” I have also seen people walk away with the Host, another plus for receiving OTT.
I also notice the phrase “receiving Communion” vs. “taking Communion” used. My mother in law was a convert and “took” Communion. When the tray was passed with tiny juice thimbles, one would “take” the juice. My husband sometimes still slips.
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Lycorth
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That’s how I feel, though it is worth noting that Mother Theresa said that communion in the hand was the biggest problem in the Church today.I’m afraid I must disagree with Fr. Chauvet. I find the priest’s blessing (“May the Body of Our Lord Jesus Christ preserve your soul for eternal life. Amen.”) before he gives me Communion and my passive receptivity a better statement.
I receive kneeling and on the tongue, as the above would suggest, and do think CITH should be abolished. However, I doubt that CITH is the cause of many (indeed, if any) problems, but rather is itself a symptom of some deeper ailment.
Even if it isn’t, I do believe it goes both ways. CITH is a symptom of the general lack of reverence many Catholics seem to have for the Eucharist; why go through all that extra work of kneeling and sticking out one’s tongue?
On the other hand, lack of reverence for the Real Presence of the Lord Jesus Christ in the Blessed Sacrament can also cause a more irreverent life within the individual, so encouraging CITH only (as some parishes seem to do) can encourage ultimately a less Catholic life.
Personally, I receive on the tongue if I’m going to the priest, and in the hand if I’m going to an EMHC. I’d kneel if it were permitted in my parish, and at the altar rail (which isn’t there anymore
); as it is, I manage to genuflect when I’m the third or so person in line to receive. Even though I’m the only one I ever see doing it, I still do it because I’m there to worship the Lord, not look like one of the crowd.
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ProVobis
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:yup:
After having gone to all the trouble of going to confession and fasting and being properly disposed, why would I then want to take communion casually (CITH) and from someone other than a priest?
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Ockham
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Heresay
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MarkThompson
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D’oh, you’re right, I should’ve gone by random internet rumors instead.
Please, insisting on claims like these after they’ve been debunked just demeans you and your position. You’re better than that.
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Indyann
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The word is “hearsay”. And it is hearsay that she ever made that statement. Can you show any proof?
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Chaldean_Rite
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by intinction.
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ProVobis
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It is really hard not to see some risk of profanation, even slight, at any Mass, especially when there are no patens used.
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RazzsMom
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I agree that CITH sometimes looks too…casual, I guess is the word…not reverent at all. I used to be an EOM. (I stopped due to scheduling reasons as I also lector.) It always made me sad to see people receive so irreverently: Some would stick out one hand only. Some would TAKE the Body from my hands! (Almost GRABBING! ) Some did not say “Amen”. Some would treat It like a cracker or something and pop It into their mouth and slouch away from me. Occasionally I had someone receive by intinction. (I would allow it and then let my priest know. He usually made some statement about it later during announcements or in our Church newsletter, reminding the people this is not permitted and why.) The list goes on and on.
If I gave to a person who received OTT, I made it a careful point to hold the Host by the edge and touch It fully onto the person’s tongue to avoid having It fall. (The Host will stick to the tongue easily.)
Hmmm…the more I read here, the more I am beginning to think I want to receive OTT from my priest…You are all making me think more about this matter than I have ever done.
) Some did not say “Amen”. Some would treat It like a cracker or something and pop It into their mouth and slouch away from me. Occasionally I had someone receive by intinction. (I would allow it and then let my priest know. He usually made some statement about it later during announcements or in our Church newsletter, reminding the people this is not permitted and why.) The list goes on and on.If I gave to a person who received OTT, I made it a careful point to hold the Host by the edge and touch It fully onto the person’s tongue to avoid having It fall. (The Host will stick to the tongue easily.)
Hmmm…the more I read here, the more I am beginning to think I want to receive OTT from my priest…You are all making me think more about this matter than I have ever done.
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Deacon_JAR
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May the peace of our Lord be with you all. In the early 1990’s I experienced a deep spiritual transformation. As a result of this “new birth” the Holy Spirit infused in my whole being a great hunger and thirst to serve the Lord, to serve His people. I wanted to become an Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion (EMHC) but a great obstacle, a great barrier was in front of me: how can an unworthy man like me have the courage to touch the Flesh of the Son of Man, the Flesh of God’s Son, the Flesh of God’s Paschal Lamb? This sense of “unworthiness” kept me away from fulfilling this great desire I had in the depth of my soul and spirit.
When you are called by the Good Lord to partake of a ministry He will open doors and destroy barriers to enable and empower His servant to fulfill His [God’s] will. One day I was invited to attend a mission taking place in another Catholic parish in town. Fr. McCalister, God bless his soul, was the presenter. For my great surprise, he was sharing that night about the ways to receive the Body of the Lord: on the hand or on the tongue. He stated that many people considered a “desecration” to receive the Body of the Lord on their hands, to touch with their hands the Precious Body of the Lord. That night Fr. McCalister said the words that changed my life forever: do you realize that we sin more with our tongues than with our hands? At that moment the Good Lord destroyed that barrier and opened the door that set me free to start a new journey in my life. In the Holy Scripture Jesus says, "…For from the fullness of the heart the mouth speaks…I tell you, on the day of judgment people will render an account for every careless word they speak. By your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned." (Mat. 12:34-37. Months later I finished my training and became an EMHC. In 1999, eleven years ago, I was ordained a Permanent Deacon.
My dear brothers and sisters in Christ, we are all sinners in need of the mercy and compassion of the Good Lord: clergy, religious, and the good lay people. The Presider of the Sacred Mass (priest) or Communion Service (Permanent Deacon or lay person), who is a sinner, touches the Body of the Lord with his/her hand when distributing this precious gift to the EMHC and communicants. The EMHC, who is also a sinner, touches the Body of the Lord with his/her hand when distributing this precious gift to the communicants. Then, what prevents the communicant, who is another sinner, to receive the Body of the Lord on his/her hand?
During the Last Supper, when the Good Lord instituted the Holy Eucharist, the Scripture says, “…Jesus took the bread, said a blessing, broke it, and giving it to his disciples said, ‘Take and eat; THIS IS MY BODY.’” (Mat. 26:26) The apostles, how did they receive the Body of the Lord: on their hands or on their tongues? I believe we all know the answer.
HOW ARE WE TO RECEIVE THE BODY OF THE LORD? We are to receive the Body of the Lord with a humble and contrite heart; a heart overwhelmed with a great sense of RESPECT, REVERENCE, HONOR, ADMIRATION, and LOVE to the Almighty God. We receive His Precious Body in a state of AWE and with a spirit of THANKSGIVING.
When you are called by the Good Lord to partake of a ministry He will open doors and destroy barriers to enable and empower His servant to fulfill His [God’s] will. One day I was invited to attend a mission taking place in another Catholic parish in town. Fr. McCalister, God bless his soul, was the presenter. For my great surprise, he was sharing that night about the ways to receive the Body of the Lord: on the hand or on the tongue. He stated that many people considered a “desecration” to receive the Body of the Lord on their hands, to touch with their hands the Precious Body of the Lord. That night Fr. McCalister said the words that changed my life forever: do you realize that we sin more with our tongues than with our hands? At that moment the Good Lord destroyed that barrier and opened the door that set me free to start a new journey in my life. In the Holy Scripture Jesus says, "…For from the fullness of the heart the mouth speaks…I tell you, on the day of judgment people will render an account for every careless word they speak. By your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned." (Mat. 12:34-37. Months later I finished my training and became an EMHC. In 1999, eleven years ago, I was ordained a Permanent Deacon.
My dear brothers and sisters in Christ, we are all sinners in need of the mercy and compassion of the Good Lord: clergy, religious, and the good lay people. The Presider of the Sacred Mass (priest) or Communion Service (Permanent Deacon or lay person), who is a sinner, touches the Body of the Lord with his/her hand when distributing this precious gift to the EMHC and communicants. The EMHC, who is also a sinner, touches the Body of the Lord with his/her hand when distributing this precious gift to the communicants. Then, what prevents the communicant, who is another sinner, to receive the Body of the Lord on his/her hand?
During the Last Supper, when the Good Lord instituted the Holy Eucharist, the Scripture says, “…Jesus took the bread, said a blessing, broke it, and giving it to his disciples said, ‘Take and eat; THIS IS MY BODY.’” (Mat. 26:26) The apostles, how did they receive the Body of the Lord: on their hands or on their tongues? I believe we all know the answer.
HOW ARE WE TO RECEIVE THE BODY OF THE LORD? We are to receive the Body of the Lord with a humble and contrite heart; a heart overwhelmed with a great sense of RESPECT, REVERENCE, HONOR, ADMIRATION, and LOVE to the Almighty God. We receive His Precious Body in a state of AWE and with a spirit of THANKSGIVING.
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RazzsMom
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(The enlarged size is mine.) This was JUST the thing I said in an earlier post!!! (However, Deacon JAR, you spoke it much more eloquently!May the peace of our Lord be with you all. In the early 1990’s I experienced a deep spiritual transformation. As a result of this “new birth” the Holy Spirit infused in my whole being a great hunger and thirst to serve the Lord, to serve His people. I wanted to become an Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion (EMHC) but a great obstacle, a great barrier was in front of me: how can an unworthy man like me have the courage to touch the Flesh of the Son of Man, the Flesh of God’s Son, the Flesh of God’s Paschal Lamb? This sense of “unworthiness” kept me away from fulfilling this great desire I had in the depth of my soul and spirit.
When you are called by the Good Lord to partake of a ministry He will open doors and destroy barriers to enable and empower His servant to fulfill His [God’s] will. One day I was invited to attend a mission taking place in another Catholic parish in town. Fr. McCalister, God bless his soul, was the presenter. For my great surprise, he was sharing that night about the ways to receive the Body of the Lord: on the hand or on the tongue. He stated that many people considered a “desecration” to receive the Body of the Lord on their hands, to touch with their hands the Precious Body of the Lord. That night Fr. McCalister said the words that changed my life forever: do you realize that we sin more with our tongues than with our hands? At that moment the Good Lord destroyed that barrier and opened the door that set me free to start a new journey in my life. In the Holy Scripture Jesus says, "…For from the fullness of the heart the mouth speaks…I tell you, on the day of judgment people will render an account for every careless word they speak. By your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned." (Mat. 12:34-37. Months later I finished my training and became an EMHC. In 1999, eleven years ago, I was ordained a Permanent Deacon.
My dear brothers and sisters in Christ, we are all sinners in need of the mercy and compassion of the Good Lord: clergy, religious, and the good lay people. The Presider of the Sacred Mass (priest) or Communion Service (Permanent Deacon or lay person), who is a sinner, touches the Body of the Lord with his/her hand when distributing this precious gift to the EMHC and communicants. The EMHC, who is also a sinner, touches the Body of the Lord with his/her hand when distributing this precious gift to the communicants. Then, what prevents the communicant, who is another sinner, to receive the Body of the Lord on his/her hand?
During the Last Supper, when the Good Lord instituted the Holy Eucharist, the Scripture says, “…Jesus took the bread, said a blessing, broke it, and giving it to his disciples said, ‘Take and eat; THIS IS MY BODY.’” (Mat. 26:26) The apostles, how did they receive the Body of the Lord: on their hands or on their tongues? I believe we all know the answer.
HOW ARE WE TO RECEIVE THE BODY OF THE LORD? We are to receive the Body of the Lord with a humble and contrite heart; a heart overwhelmed with a great sense of RESPECT, REVERENCE, HONOR, ADMIRATION, and LOVE to the Almighty God. We receive His Precious Body in a state of AWE and with a spirit of THANKSGIVING.
)OK ---- sorry I appeared to waffle a bit. Since my parish seems to currently be very reverent in the distribution of the Holy Eucharist, I do not think it is necessary to change my current practice. If and when the Holy Father states that CITH isabolished, I will usually receive that way. The only reason I have received OTT recently was due to a shoulder replacement surgery and I did not have use of one arm. I will not receive ITH unless I can cradle Him in one hand to receive with the other. I am due to have the other shoulder replaced in August, so I will be back to receiving COTT for 8-10 weeks then.
Thanks for all the great discussion. I am finding it all enlightening and fascinating!
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RazzsMom
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Sorry I made the quote SO HUGE. And I didn’t want to edit it for fear I would muddle up the original message. LOL
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Oneofthewomen
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Deacon JAR,May the peace of our Lord be with you all. In the early 1990’s I experienced a deep spiritual transformation. As a result of this “new birth” the Holy Spirit infused in my whole being a great hunger and thirst to serve the Lord, to serve His people. I wanted to become an Extraordinary Minister of Holy Communion (EMHC) but a great obstacle, a great barrier was in front of me: how can an unworthy man like me have the courage to touch the Flesh of the Son of Man, the Flesh of God’s Son, the Flesh of God’s Paschal Lamb? This sense of “unworthiness” kept me away from fulfilling this great desire I had in the depth of my soul and spirit.
When you are called by the Good Lord to partake of a ministry He will open doors and destroy barriers to enable and empower His servant to fulfill His [God’s] will. One day I was invited to attend a mission taking place in another Catholic parish in town. Fr. McCalister, God bless his soul, was the presenter. For my great surprise, he was sharing that night about the ways to receive the Body of the Lord: on the hand or on the tongue. He stated that many people considered a “desecration” to receive the Body of the Lord on their hands, to touch with their hands the Precious Body of the Lord. That night Fr. McCalister said the words that changed my life forever: do you realize that we sin more with our tongues than with our hands? At that moment the Good Lord destroyed that barrier and opened the door that set me free to start a new journey in my life. In the Holy Scripture Jesus says, "…For from the fullness of the heart the mouth speaks…I tell you, on the day of judgment people will render an account for every careless word they speak. By your words you will be acquitted, and by your words you will be condemned." (Mat. 12:34-37. Months later I finished my training and became an EMHC. In 1999, eleven years ago, I was ordained a Permanent Deacon.
My dear brothers and sisters in Christ, we are all sinners in need of the mercy and compassion of the Good Lord: clergy, religious, and the good lay people. The Presider of the Sacred Mass (priest) or Communion Service (Permanent Deacon or lay person), who is a sinner, touches the Body of the Lord with his/her hand when distributing this precious gift to the EMHC and communicants. The EMHC, who is also a sinner, touches the Body of the Lord with his/her hand when distributing this precious gift to the communicants. Then, what prevents the communicant, who is another sinner, to receive the Body of the Lord on his/her hand?
During the Last Supper, when the Good Lord instituted the Holy Eucharist, the Scripture says, “…Jesus took the bread, said a blessing, broke it, and giving it to his disciples said, ‘Take and eat; THIS IS MY BODY.’” (Mat. 26:26) The apostles, how did they receive the Body of the Lord: on their hands or on their tongues? I believe we all know the answer.
HOW ARE WE TO RECEIVE THE BODY OF THE LORD? We are to receive the Body of the Lord with a humble and contrite heart; a heart overwhelmed with a great sense of RESPECT, REVERENCE, HONOR, ADMIRATION, and LOVE to the Almighty God. We receive His Precious Body in a state of AWE and with a spirit of THANKSGIVING.
Thank you so much for this wonderful and inspirational story!!!
Peace be with you!!
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CDNowak
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With all due respect to Deacon Jar, the Apostles were the equivalent of bishops. The Last supper, then is obviously a poor indication of the way we should receive.
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