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The Church does not say that.
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Well, a Priest on youtube had a long talk about this and stated that you should not wash clothes on Sundays if you can do it on other days. He is a good Priest, I think. I have never met him.
I was just wondering what is forbidden to do on a Sunday.
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Salibi
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That is probably a suggestion of the priest’s, and a good one. One should dedicate Sunday to the LORD, however, there is no obligation to refrain from washing clothes or any other weekly activity on Sunday under Church law.
The only forbidden thing is missing Sunday Mass.
The only forbidden thing is missing Sunday Mass.
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Fauken
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I can see what he means by this. We should try to keep Sunday as restful as possible. On one hand, we ought to get all that housework done before Sunday so we can relax that day. On the other hand, if we have to wash them Sunday, then I doubt God wants us to be in dirty clothes on Sunday; they should be washed.
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Sarcelle
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The one forbidden thing to do is miss mass.
However if you went to mass on Saturday, the vigil mass, you have fulfilled your obligation.
As for the priest saying it is forbidden to wash clothes on a Sunday, remember he does not speak for the Magisterium.
However if you went to mass on Saturday, the vigil mass, you have fulfilled your obligation.
As for the priest saying it is forbidden to wash clothes on a Sunday, remember he does not speak for the Magisterium.
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Pattylt
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The Orthodox and Conservative (to a lesser extent) stillbegin Sabbath Friday night at sunset with the lighting of the Sabbath candles. The Orthodox vary as well in how strictly they stick with “no work” but most turn off all TVs, radios, etc. The meals for the next 24 hrs will be a type of stew (usually a cholent) left simmering on the stove. Services are held briefly on Friday night and a longer service Saturday morning. Since no driving, the Orthodox live near the synagogue and must walk to it. Since they all live near their Shul (synagogue) they are all neighbors so they visit and chat and relax pretty much all the day! At the end of the Sabbath there is another brief prayer held…thanking God for his blessings of the Sabbath. Then at sunset on Saturday, everyone turns on the lights and catches up on all the sports scores 
…at least in my family, this is how it went! Oh, and because we didn’t do dishes for 24 hours, all the men pitched in to wash dishes!
For cholent see Cholent - Jewish Slow-Cooked Stew - Recipe & History
…at least in my family, this is how it went! Oh, and because we didn’t do dishes for 24 hours, all the men pitched in to wash dishes!For cholent see Cholent - Jewish Slow-Cooked Stew - Recipe & History
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Pattylt
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Adding to myself here…
Because Friday’s were so busy getting everything ready for Sabbath, most Jews tried to take Friday and Saturday off work if able to. And in return, worked Sunday’s for Christians so they could take off their day of rest…it worked pretty well! Christians and Jews often exchanged religious holidays working each other’s shifts so Jews had Roshashana and Yom Kippur off and Christians Christmas and Easter. I worked many Christian holidays for co workers.
Because Friday’s were so busy getting everything ready for Sabbath, most Jews tried to take Friday and Saturday off work if able to. And in return, worked Sunday’s for Christians so they could take off their day of rest…it worked pretty well! Christians and Jews often exchanged religious holidays working each other’s shifts so Jews had Roshashana and Yom Kippur off and Christians Christmas and Easter. I worked many Christian holidays for co workers.
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Salibi
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That’s such a kind thing to do!
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Sarcelle
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As an atheist, I also worked many Christian holidays for co workers.
I had no family nearby and I was an atheist, so no celebration of Christmas.
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Pattylt
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Well, time and a half didn’t hurt, either but really, I was happy to do it. It isn’t MY holiday so it didn’t have the special meaning for me that it did for so many of my co workers. Really, it isn’t that hard to be kind to our fellow humans. And I worked with some great fellow humans no matter where our faiths lay.
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nfinke
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I always go to mass unless for some rare reason I can’t, and try my best not to do necessary work on Sunday, and try to read even more of the Bible than I usually do daily, and keep the Lord on my mind throughout the day.
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Sarcelle
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I actually liked working holidays.
I was most often by myself so no drama to speak of with everyone gone.
I’m a bit anti-social.
Right now as I type this I’m at a Diwali celebration at work.
There’s good Indian food available and I’m hungry
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Oooh, I see gulab jamun.
I was most often by myself so no drama to speak of with everyone gone.
I’m a bit anti-social.
Right now as I type this I’m at a Diwali celebration at work.
There’s good Indian food available and I’m hungry
.Oooh, I see gulab jamun.
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Respectfully, in keeping with your line of reasoning - do you honor your father and mother? Do you covet?
Jesus said that all the commandments - including to keep the Sabbath holy - are included loving the Lord with all our heart, mind and strength, and loving our neighbors as ourselves. The question posted by the OP isn’t really about the actual day that’s dedicated to the Lord - it’s about how we rest, and how/if we dedicate time (a day even) to our King.
For example - how much of any day (let alone Sunday) do we spend on our phones and computers vs. focused on God? How much of any day to we take to rest - I mean really rest - no work, no phone, no computer, no chores, no meetings… For me at least, I have much work to do to honor the Lord’s day and keep it holy.
Jesus said that all the commandments - including to keep the Sabbath holy - are included loving the Lord with all our heart, mind and strength, and loving our neighbors as ourselves. The question posted by the OP isn’t really about the actual day that’s dedicated to the Lord - it’s about how we rest, and how/if we dedicate time (a day even) to our King.
For example - how much of any day (let alone Sunday) do we spend on our phones and computers vs. focused on God? How much of any day to we take to rest - I mean really rest - no work, no phone, no computer, no chores, no meetings… For me at least, I have much work to do to honor the Lord’s day and keep it holy.
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I’m so jealous! Love Indian food.
As far as working on a holiday, I agree. I worked in a hospital lab and since most patients that can be discharged, are discharged and because offices are closed, it tends to be a low stress day. Until, of course, those traumas come in! Some of the worst traumas I’ve ever been involved with seem to occur on holidays. I always feel so bad for, not just the trauma victims, but also their families.
As far as working on a holiday, I agree. I worked in a hospital lab and since most patients that can be discharged, are discharged and because offices are closed, it tends to be a low stress day. Until, of course, those traumas come in! Some of the worst traumas I’ve ever been involved with seem to occur on holidays. I always feel so bad for, not just the trauma victims, but also their families.
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Realize that the Old Covenant was done away with. As for keeping the Sabbath, here is what the Lord said in through the Prophets Isaiah and Jeremiah:
“The multitude of your sacrifices—what are they to me?” says the Lord. “I have more than enough of burnt offerings, of rams and the fat of fattened animals; I have no pleasure in the blood of bulls and lambs and goats. When you come to appear before me, who has asked this of you, this trampling of my courts? Stop bringing meaningless offerings! Your incense is detestable to me. New Moons, Sabbaths and convocations— I cannot bear your worthless assemblies. Your New Moon feasts and your appointed festivals I hate with all my being. They have become a burden to me; I am weary of bearing them. When you spread out your hands in prayer, I hide my eyes from you; even when you offer many prayers, I am not listening. Your hands are full of blood. Isaiah 1:11-15
And through the Prophet Jeremiah:
‘The days are coming,” declares the Lord, “when I will make a new covenant with the people of Israel and with the people of Judah. It will not be like the covenant I made with their ancestors when I took them by the hand to lead them out of Egypt, because they broke my covenant, though I was a husband to them, declares the Lord. “This is the covenant I will make with the people of Israel after that time,” declares the Lord. “I will put my law in their minds and write it on their hearts. I will be their God, and they will be my people. Jer. 21:31-33.
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FossilResin
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There’s no need to be aggressive. We are all learning.
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TULIPed
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I don’t think Isaiah’s point in that passage was to abrogate celebrating the Sabbath. From Isaiah 58:
“If you keep your feet from breaking the Sabbath
and from doing as you please on my holy day,
if you call the Sabbath a delight
and the Lord’s holy day honorable,
and if you honor it by not going your own way
and not doing as you please or speaking idle words,
14 then you will find your joy in the Lord,
and I will cause you to ride in triumph on the heights of the land
and to feast on the inheritance of your father Jacob.”
For the mouth of the Lord has spoken.”
His point was rather focused on the condition of the hearts of the people of Israel - were they truly focused on loving the Lord on the Sabbath - or were they doing it for show in public, while living sinfully in private? Were they living their lives - including setting aside time for God - in a way that would be a “light for the nations”, or were they doing “detestable” things? God was and is always focused on the condition of our hearts - OT or NT. He wants the soft
“If you keep your feet from breaking the Sabbath
and from doing as you please on my holy day,
if you call the Sabbath a delight
and the Lord’s holy day honorable,
and if you honor it by not going your own way
and not doing as you please or speaking idle words,
14 then you will find your joy in the Lord,
and I will cause you to ride in triumph on the heights of the land
and to feast on the inheritance of your father Jacob.”
For the mouth of the Lord has spoken.”
His point was rather focused on the condition of the hearts of the people of Israel - were they truly focused on loving the Lord on the Sabbath - or were they doing it for show in public, while living sinfully in private? Were they living their lives - including setting aside time for God - in a way that would be a “light for the nations”, or were they doing “detestable” things? God was and is always focused on the condition of our hearts - OT or NT. He wants the soft
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SetInMotion
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The sabbath isn’t “Jewish”, and there is not a single reference in scripture which would say/indicate it is/was, and so why would the statement, “Not Jewish”, apply?. Neither was Moses (“Jewish”), he was “Hebrew” and a Levite (of Levi, not Judah). Zipporah wasn’t even that. Neither the mixed multitude that went out of Egypt with the Israelites.
The commandment (Exodus 20:8-11, etc) specifically says, “the seventh day is the sabbath of the LORD thy God”
Hence the Son of God/Man (aka Jesus) is called, “Lord also of the sabbath” (Mark 2:28), and calls it “my holy day” (Isaiah 58:13), the “holy of the LORD” (Isaiah 58:13), being the “Lord’s day” (Revelation 1:10), all the way from Genesis 2:1-3, wherein God rested.
I do not remember anywhere in scripture wherein any part of the Ten Commandments (Exodus 20:1-17) are “Jewish”, or only for the “Jews”. Ecclesiastes 12:13-14, states that the “whole duty of (Adam)” is to keep the Commandments of God. Jesus said the same in Mark 2:27, in that the sabbath was “made” (Genesis) for “(the) man” (ton anthrwpon, see also so-called LXX in Genesis 1-2), being Adam the first, and also for Adam the last (Colossians 1:16; 1 Corinthians 15:44-46).
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SetInMotion
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This may help you, but you’ll have to study (as it links to a playlist):My friends! I’m-a make “sabbath” a verb: “to sabbath”How do you sabbath? More seriously, how are we actually expected to observe the sabbath reverently? I never hear about “keeping the sabbath” at church anymore
Honestly I think our cousins the Jews still have the right idea with how lovingly they do it. Jesus being Lord of the Sabbath, taking life-saving liberties with it as He did, should be all the more reason to keep it holy. I want to give the sabbath to God completely, but I’m afraid we’re treating it as if it is of no importance.
To answer your question from a personal perspective, I keep the Sabbath of the LORD according to what is written in scripture, which includes by the living example that Jesus gave (for His life was without sin).
So to begin with, read:
Luk 4:14 And Jesus returned in the power of the Spirit into Galilee: and there went out a fame of him through all the region round about.
Luk 4:15 And he taught in their synagogues, being glorified of all.
Luk 4:16 And he came to Nazareth, where he had been brought up: and, as his custom was, he went into the synagogue on the sabbath day, and stood up for to read.
Luk 4:17 And there was delivered unto him the book of the prophet Esaias. And when he had opened the book, he found the place where it was written,
Luk 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel to the poor; he hath sent me to heal the brokenhearted, to preach deliverance to the captives, and recovering of sight to the blind, to set at liberty them that are bruised,
Luk 4:19 To preach the acceptable year of the Lord.
Luk 4:20 And he closed the book, and he gave it again to the minister, and sat down. And the eyes of all them that were in the synagogue were fastened on him.
Luk 4:21 And he began to say unto them, This day is this scripture fulfilled in your ears.
Ask yourself, what was specifically “This day” in the context in which the scripture of Isaiah was fulfilled? See vs 16. So Jesus is an example of an anointed and Holy Spirit filled, Gospel preaching, teaching, healing and publishing person who keeps the sabbath without sin.
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[English Translation; Roman Catholic] “XXXVI. Have before your eyes the fear of God, and always remember the ten commandments of God—to love the one and only Lord God with all your strength; to give no heed to idols, or any other beings, as being lifeless gods, or irrational beings or dæmons. Consider the manifold workmanship of God, which received its beginning through Christ. You shall observe the Sabbath, on account of Him who ceased from His work of creation, but ceased not from His work of providence: it is a rest for meditation of the law, not for idleness of the hands. Reject every unlawful lust, everything destructive to men, and all anger. Honour your parents, as the authors of your being. Love your neighbour as yourself. …” - http://www.newadvent.org/fathers/07152.htmMy friends! I’m-a make “sabbath” a verb: “to sabbath”
[English Translation; Orthodox] “XXXVI. Have before thine eyes the fear of God, and always remember the ten commandments of God,-to love the one and only Lord God with all thy strength; to give no heed to idols, or any other beings, as being lifeless gods, or irrational beings or daemons. Consider the manifold workmanship of God, which received its beginning through Christ. Thou shalt observe the Sabbath, on account of Him who ceased from His work of creation, but ceased not from His work of providence: it is a rest for meditation of the law, not for idleness of the hands. Reject every unlawful lust, everything destructive to men, and all anger. Honour thy parents, as the authors of thy being. Love thy neighbour as thyself. …” - Apostolic Teaching and Constitutions: Constitutions of the Holy Apostles: Book II
“… But keep the Sabbath, …; because the former is the memorial of the creation, . …” - Apostolic Constitutions, Book VII (7), section XXIII (23), by Philip Schaff; ANF07. Fathers of the Third and Fourth Centuries: Lactantius, Venantius, Asterius, Victorinus, Dionysius, Apostolic Teaching and Constitutions, Homily, and Liturgies; page 692 (PDF 712) - http://www.documentacatholicaomnia....ers_Of_The_Third_And_Fourth_Centuries,_EN.pdf
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