But why does that end all or non contingent have to be a creator? can’t that endall be the universe we live in? If it can be god why can’t it be the universe?
It seems to me that it is apparent that the universe did need a Creator because it is contingent on something besides itself – and not just for it’s origin. The more we find out about the universe, the more we can see that the processes that go on within it are highly dependent on factors outside those processes. If some processes or conditions that make the universe what it is ceased to work or exist, other processes or conditions could not, in turn, function or exist. Since the processes in this huge system is apparently so interdependent and not self-sustaining, that tells me that it’s design and origin must exist outside the system itself. And to me, God fits this bill.
Your chief mistake is in thinking of God as “complex”. He is Simple; His Being is not composed of parts.
For a fuller discussion of God’s simplicity and His other attributes which are one in His simplicity, see here:
Short answer is that the universe can’t be the “non-contingent” because it changes. Anything that changes can’t be the source of being, because it’s not even fully “being” itself; it becomes something else with every change.
Or, as someone else has quipped: **If I understood God, I would be God. **
God is not complex. That is where you go astray.
Yes i know of the priest and his idea, but what you say is void as the churches official stance is that the universe was created in 6 days by certain steps not by a big bang and the steps that followed. But what you say about the big bang doesn’t rule out the possibility of a sin function universe, endless bangs, or something existing before the bang, outside out time space continuum.
And how can god be stagnant? He changed himself into the form of jesus, that is a change. He changes when he became the burning bush.
How is it we know this creator was simple instead of complex?
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