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I’ve read that salvation is a matter of cooperation with God’s grace. But what does that actually mean, in concrete terms?
Will a person be saved if they pray for the graces of conversion, repentance, and mercy? I would think probably not necessarily, since we know that some people will be practicing Catholics and yet ultimately not be saved. But if it’s not enough to be Catholic and pray for these things, what else does a person need to do to be saved?
Maybe that the person needs to do good works, bear fruit, and stay away from mortal sin. But what does a person need to do in order to be able to do these things? Is it enough for the person to pray for the graces of conversion, repentance, and mercy? But then we have the same issue as before, we can’t say yes because some do these things and aren’t saved.
What if prayer makes it possible to do those things, but doesn’t guarantee that the person actually will? Then what does a person need to do so that they’ll actually do these things? Pray for conversion, repentance, mercy, etc.?
What if a person really needs to just plain choose it and actually act, after having prayed for the grace for it to be possible? But what if their attempts to make themselves do these things don’t work, as seems to be a common struggle?
Could anyone help me understand how salvation works and what specific actions a person needs to do to be saved, taking into account the fact that some Catholics will seem to do all the things they’re supposed to do yet not be saved, and explaining the difference between what they do who do get saved vs those who don’t get saved?
Will a person be saved if they pray for the graces of conversion, repentance, and mercy? I would think probably not necessarily, since we know that some people will be practicing Catholics and yet ultimately not be saved. But if it’s not enough to be Catholic and pray for these things, what else does a person need to do to be saved?
Maybe that the person needs to do good works, bear fruit, and stay away from mortal sin. But what does a person need to do in order to be able to do these things? Is it enough for the person to pray for the graces of conversion, repentance, and mercy? But then we have the same issue as before, we can’t say yes because some do these things and aren’t saved.
What if prayer makes it possible to do those things, but doesn’t guarantee that the person actually will? Then what does a person need to do so that they’ll actually do these things? Pray for conversion, repentance, mercy, etc.?
What if a person really needs to just plain choose it and actually act, after having prayed for the grace for it to be possible? But what if their attempts to make themselves do these things don’t work, as seems to be a common struggle?
Could anyone help me understand how salvation works and what specific actions a person needs to do to be saved, taking into account the fact that some Catholics will seem to do all the things they’re supposed to do yet not be saved, and explaining the difference between what they do who do get saved vs those who don’t get saved?