Mmmm… See that vast array of evidence supporting this statement. Gasp in wonder that the magnificent deployment of brilliant arguments to support the inevitable conclusion. Such an awesome post which will surely convince everyone by its sheer brilliance.
True. However, I beleive that Adam & Eve were the first Homo Sapien Sapiens. I do not beleive they were the first members of the Homo genus.phil19034:
Homo Sapiens Sapiens is a scientific designation for all modern living humans. The Church does not teach that Adam and Eve were Homo Sapiens Sapiens. We don’t know how they would be classified by modern anthropologists / biologists. What we do know is that they were the first humans from a theological perspective… the first hominids to have eternal souls… and that all living humans are descended from them.
In Genesis, God said, “Let the earth bring forth…” to create land animals. Hence, all land animals are, in some sense, clay as they came forth from the earth. Given that, then using a previously existing Hominid as a basis for Adam is using “clay” to form Adam.
BINGO!!!phil19034:
In Genesis, God said, “Let the earth bring forth…” to create land animals. Hence, all land animals are, in some sense, clay as they came forth from the earth. Given that, then using a previously existing Hominid as a basis for Adam is using “clay” to form Adam.
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I was listening to Fr. Robert Spitzer on EWTN, and he’s a great and towering intellectual figure among Catholic scientists.
Yeap. His theory gels with mine, in that Adam & Eve were the first Homo Sapien Sapiens.phil19034:
I was listening to Fr. Robert Spitzer on EWTN, and he’s a great and towering intellectual figure among Catholic scientists.
He believes Y-chromosomal Adam and Mitochondrial Eve lived about 150,000 years ago but they were not Adam and Eve of Genesis…
He believes the single parents Adam and Eve of Genesis lived around 70,000 years ago when humans suddenly developed behavioral modernity…
I’m oversimplifying, but look up his EWTN sessions and watch them sometime if you want a perspective coming from both a brilliant scientist and faithful orthodox Catholic POV.
LOL — your post made me imagine God sitting up in Heaven with St Michael the Archangel.
actually it works very well. Why couldn’t God create via evolution? He laid all these things down in his time. I find the use of evolution as a means of creation far more impressive than the idea that everything just snapped into place ready made.
As has been pointed out in just about every evolution thread on this site, evolution does NOT say that we evolved from apes. I don’t know why you keep repeating this falsehood.
Why are you afraid of that assertion? What science tells us is observable and by calling things a theory (the strongest scenario type) science always leaves the door open for new discovery. What am I to believe a story told millenia ago to explain our relationship with God or tools and understanding that was infinitely unavailable to those writers. Evolution does not dispel faith that there is something behind this all. Is there not wonder that specks of dust in space came together via forces such as gravity, developed into life, and some have evolved far enough to understand this process.
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This one sentence totally disquallifies you from rational discussion. If you fail to have even a basic grasp of what you are arguing against, how can you ever hope to debate this?
Probably because the only way creationists can cling to their pseudo-science nonsense is to create strawmen about what science actually teaches… Otherwise they’d have to actually do the work and research, then they most likely wouldn’t cling to creation pseudo-science to begin with.
AMEN!
Sorry but I have never heard of them.