How does the Holy Spirit knock someone out?

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I was watching some preacher late last night on TCT or CBN, cant recall his name, but he would go down in the audience, lay hands on people, and they would be knocked out, and fall to the ground, they usually got up a few minutes later.

I remember this happening when I was going to a Pentecostal church years ago, A friend of mine and his wife were members here and a few times, friends of mine went with me, a couple times this one girl, who was not religious at all, and really did not want to go, she was bugging me the drive there, she wanted to go party, but we did go, the preacher touched her during the service and she was knocked out, she was standing right beside me, after she got up, I could see she was different, she was laughing and smiling, her life changed that night, she actually joined the church and kept going.

I asked her about it afterwards and she said it felt like a lightning bolt hit her, said it was the best feeling she ever had, I know she was not faking it, as I knew her before and saw firsthand the change, the preacher laid hands on me a few times during my time there, I do remember feeling ‘something’ strange, (I had never felt this before in my life), but it never knocked me out, they told me I was resisting it and trying to hold on to my secular ways, if I would just let the Holy Spirit in, the same would happen to me.

Has anyone ever had a similar experience?
 
Your post is very discerning indeed!

At least those people told you that the important bit for you to do was not to “hold onto your secular ways” as you put it.

You were already rather ready to believe because of what you had seen in that lady (or became able to see it as it came to light in her from then on).

So the crucial factor is the fruits of the Holy Spirit’s move. I’ve often been told I was “resisting it” when it hasn’t been properly explained what was really intended to be understood by “it”. Sadly there’s a “dumbing down” model of Holy Spirit Ministry as of most things these days.
 
mikekle said:
I was watching some preacher late last night on TCT or CBN, cant recall his name, but he would go down in the audience, lay hands on people, and they would be knocked out, and fall to the ground, they usually got up a few minutes later.

I remember this happening when I was going to a Pentecostal church years ago, A friend of mine and his wife were members here and a few times, friends of mine went with me, a couple times this one girl, who was not religious at all, and really did not want to go, she was bugging me the drive there, she wanted to go party, but we did go, the preacher touched her during the service and she was knocked out, she was standing right beside me, after she got up, I could see she was different, she was laughing and smiling, her life changed that night, she actually joined the church and kept going.

I asked her about it afterwards and she said it felt like a lightning bolt hit her, said it was the best feeling she ever had, I know she was not faking it, as I knew her before and saw firsthand the change, the preacher laid hands on me a few times during my time there, I do remember feeling ‘something’ strange, (I had never felt this before in my life), but it never knocked me out, they told me I was resisting it and trying to hold on to my secular ways, if I would just let the Holy Spirit in, the same would happen to me.

Has anyone ever had a similar experience?
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I have seen this many times at Catholic Charismatic Renewal yearly Conferences, and also at priests who celebrate a Mass for the purpose of healing. It’s not so much the falling down, as it is the faith of the recipient.

Several years ago I went to a healing Mass where after the Mass, the priest prayed over each person individually while another priest held up the Blessed Sacrament in the monstrance in front of the person.
I did rest in the Holy Spirit for a short while, and was filled with confidence for the family healing prayer I had in my heart.

Now Catholics believe in the Real Presence in the Eucharist, and they can tell the Lord of their needs and adore Him when they receive the Eucharist every time they go to mass. Perhaps the dramatic way is to get people to focus on the power of our Lord?

This same priest also preceded Mass with several people in the congregation leading mysteries of the Rosary.

A strong and powerful influence of Our Lord in the Eucharist, and our Blessed Mother’s intercession was definitely present at what I described above.
 
The Holy Spirit doesn’t knock anyone out. It’s a matter of expectations - you expect to be “knocked out,” you will. I spent part of my teen years in such a church and never again will I let a person have that much control over me.

Speaking in tongues has nothing to do with the Holy Spirit, either.
 
mikekle said:
I was watching some preacher late last night on TCT or CBN, cant recall his name, but he would go down in the audience, lay hands on people, and they would be knocked out, and fall to the ground, they usually got up a few minutes later.

I remember this happening when I was going to a Pentecostal church years ago, A friend of mine and his wife were members here and a few times, friends of mine went with me, a couple times this one girl, who was not religious at all, and really did not want to go, she was bugging me the drive there, she wanted to go party, but we did go, the preacher touched her during the service and she was knocked out, she was standing right beside me, after she got up, I could see she was different, she was laughing and smiling, her life changed that night, she actually joined the church and kept going.

I asked her about it afterwards and she said it felt like a lightning bolt hit her, said it was the best feeling she ever had, I know she was not faking it, as I knew her before and saw firsthand the change, the preacher laid hands on me a few times during my time there, I do remember feeling ‘something’ strange, (I had never felt this before in my life), but it never knocked me out, they told me I was resisting it and trying to hold on to my secular ways, if I would just let the Holy Spirit in, the same would happen to me.

Has anyone ever had a similar experience?
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I know of a few Pentecostals who fell down.I think they call it being Slayed in the Spirit.
For Catholics who desire this experience there are special seminars where people pray over you for an outpouring of the Holy Spirit.Since you have already received the Holy Spirit at Baptism and are sealed at Confirmation you may receive another outpouring to aid you.
 
While I don’t doubt that some of these experiences are genuine, I’ve often wondered “what is the purpose of this?” In some instances it could be for making an unbeliever into a believer, but in most instances that is not the case.

To me it just seems like it emphasizes a feeling or physical experience of being “slain” and many people that go to these events are seeking that emotional high. Then they go to Mass and receive the Eucharist where the Lord is physically dwelling within them, and often times they don’t experience anything or very little by comparison.

From a few charismatic catholic friends that I know, they will talk all day about the wonders of being “slayed in the Spirit”, but the Eucharist is kind of “blah”. Something just doesn’t seem right with that picture. Which is why I continue to ask “what is the purpose of this?” Maybe someone could help me answer that question as well.
 
This mainly goes on in Pentecostal circles, has nothing whatsoever to do with the Holy Spirit and everything to do with peer pressure and mass hysteria.

You will note that in scripture, the servants of God fall forward when overcome (usually by fear), and the enemies of God fall on their backsides. Take this into account when discerning the validity of some of the weirder movements in the churches.
 
B E L I E F !

I hear he’s got a decent right cross as well…
 
Glomung said:
This mainly goes on in Pentecostal circles, has nothing whatsoever to do with the Holy Spirit and everything to do with peer pressure and mass hysteria.
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Thank you! Those are the terms I was looking for, but hadn’t had enough coffee yet to wake up my brain. 😉
 
I don’t recall reading about any time during early or later periods of Christian history that this was something noted among the believers. Its something that seems to be new and started not with Catholics but with some Pentecostals.

It should be noted, that in Scripture, the only ones falling down backwards or being knocked down were the soldiers that came to take Christ away to be tried and crucified. I don’t know if that means anything, but I find it curious and a sign that people should seek discernment in this area.
 
spiderweb said:
From a few charismatic catholic friends that I know, they will talk all day about the wonders of being “slayed in the Spirit”, but the Eucharist is kind of “blah”. Something just doesn’t seem right with that picture.
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What isn’t right with that picture is that being “slain in the spirit” is all about emotion, while the Eucharist simply is; think of God referring to Himself as “I AM,” a simple statement of fact.

When people at a church are acting like sports fans or as if they’re at a rave (are those still being done?), they are simply caught up in the emotion of others, not having a spiritual experience.
 
And are they acting like they’re cheering their favorite sports team or at a dance? If so, my reply stands. Years ago I went to a couple of Catholic Charismatic meetings & they were quite sedate, unlike the Protestant church services I used to attend.
 
Glomung said:
This mainly goes on in Pentecostal circles, has nothing whatsoever to do with the Holy Spirit and everything to do with peer pressure and mass hysteria.

You will note that in scripture, the servants of God fall forward when overcome (usually by fear), and the enemies of God fall on their backsides. Take this into account when discerning the validity of some of the weirder movements in the churches.
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👍 Exactly! Having spent several years in an AoG church we became familiar with that, but were (blessedly) never witness to it in our congregation.

It’s called being “slain in the spirit” but there’s no record of it anywhere in the Bible so 🤷

In karate we used to kinda joke about it saying, “be heeled…be palm heeled”
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Bonnie said:
The Holy Spirit doesn’t knock anyone out. It’s a matter of expectations - you expect to be “knocked out,” you will. I spent part of my teen years in such a church and never again will I let a person have that much control over me.

Speaking in tongues has nothing to do with the Holy Spirit, either.
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I tend to agree with you. Are these possibly some form of hypnosis?
 
If you go look at Protestant “slain in the spirit” videos, then go look at voodoo ceremonies, you’ll see the activity looks exactly the same. I doubt the Holy Spirit is behind this. There may be some kind of spirit involved, but it’s not holy. :twocents:
 
It is fiction, but the description in Roots of Kunta Kinte seeing & experiencing the similarities between his old religion in Africa & the Christian religion in America is eye-opening. I know from my own experience that one can get caught up in the emotion of the moment.
 
I don’t put much faith in these experiences; I think they are often driven by mass suggestion.

When someone is leaned into and their body then topples like a tree, that’s not spiritual, that’s just gravity.

Unlike speaking in tongues, this practice is not found per se in Scripture.

ICXC NIKA.
 
This is why I question it’s purpose. I understand that the Holy Spirit can do such things. I also understand that there is Church approval. And while some may be authentic, I think by listening to what others are saying on this topic, clearly some are not the authentic working of the Holy Spirit.

Assuming that it is an authentic experience, I still have to ask “what is it’s purpose?” Not only being slain in the spirit but also speaking in tongues as is commonly done today. I don’t see any real meaning or purpose for it.
 
boomerang said:
I doubt the Holy Spirit is behind this. There may be some kind of spirit involved, but it’s not holy. :twocents:
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If that were true, why would these people be screaming “Praise Jesus Praise Jesus”, if the enemy was behind it, I doubt he would encourage people to say things like that, plus it makes them that much more devout in their faith, they follow the bible more strictly, they bring more people to the faith, etc…this does not sound like things Satan would like.
 
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