How far out there and still Catholic?

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I have heard and read about some Catholics that are “Liberal” and rather not Orthadox Catholics. I was just wondering, How far out there can a person be and still be a Catholic? Just Curious. Thanks and God bless.
 
IHow far out there can a person be and still be a Catholic? Just Curious. Thanks and God bless.
From the moment of Baptism until and unless a person formally joins another Church, once a Catholic always a Catholic. Even folks who have been formally excommunicated are still technically Catholics they’re just not allowed the Sacraments.

Sorry dude, you’re stuck with us.
 
I have heard and read about some Catholics that are “Liberal” and rather not Orthadox Catholics. I was just wondering, How far out there can a person be and still be a Catholic? Just Curious. Thanks and God bless.
Morally not very far at all before they separate themselves from the Catholic Church, not very far at all.

Being Christian means being Baptized, being Catholic means living the Catholic faith. Once one stops living the Catholic faith they are no longer Catholic by their own choice.
 
Morally not very far at all before they separate themselves from the Catholic Church, not very far at all.

Being Christian means being Baptized, being Catholic means living the Catholic faith. Once one stops living the Catholic faith they are no longer Catholic by their own choice.
My understanding is that once a Roman Catholic always as Roman Catholic. No matter what you do in life or what choices you make you remain a Roman Catholic. You may not be in good standing with the RC church but you dont give up your catholicity.
 
My understanding is that once a Roman Catholic always as Roman Catholic. No matter what you do in life or what choices you make you remain a Roman Catholic. You may not be in good standing with the RC church but you dont give up your catholicity.
That is misleading to say once Catholic, always Catholic. Once Baptized always Baptized, yes there is an indelible mark of Sacramental Baptism. But there is no indelible mark of a Catholic. Being Catholic means that you believe what the Catholic Church teaches and live out the Catholic faith in your everyday actions.
 
To me the more telling question is why would someone want to call themselves Roman Catholic yet disagree with the Roman Catholic Church. To be truly Roman Catholic means you believe the Church was formed by the Apostles and they appointed successors, who appointed successors etc… to guide the Church. It also means you believe the Holy Spirit protects the Bride of Christ from error and that Jesus words that the gates of Hades will never prevail against her are true. If you believe all that you can rely on the Church.

I think usually people disagree with the Church because the teachings are not easy (truth rarely is) or it is just something that they don’t want to be obedient to and this reject the authority of the Church.
 
To me the more telling question is why would someone want to call themselves Roman Catholic yet disagree with the Roman Catholic Church. To be truly Roman Catholic means you believe the Church was formed by the Apostles and they appointed successors, who appointed successors etc… to guide the Church. It also means you believe the Holy Spirit protects the Bride of Christ from error and that Jesus words that the gates of Hades will never prevail against her are true. If you believe all that you can rely on the Church.

I think usually people disagree with the Church because the teachings are not easy (truth rarely is) or it is just something that they don’t want to be obedient to and this reject the authority of the Church.
Agree with most everything you said. Except the POPE is NOT the head of the ROMAN Catholic Church. The POPE IS THE HEAD of the CATHOLIC CHURCH.

A “Roman Catholic” belongs to the Latin Rite of the Catholic Church. There are Eastern Rite Catholics that also are in UNION with the POPE and they too belong to the Catholic Church.

Our Catechism is called the “Catechism of the Catholic Church”.

To learn more about the Eastern Rite Catholics within the Catholic Church I suggest reading this article: The Rite Not to Be Roman {click here}

Or What All Catholics Should Know About Eastern Catholic Churches {click here}

We belong to the Catholic Church, within the Catholic Church there are 2 rites The Latin Rite and the Eastern Rite.

If you call yourself a Roman Catholic then you belong to the Latin Rite of the Catholic Church.
 
I have heard and read about some Catholics that are “Liberal” and rather not Orthadox Catholics. I was just wondering, How far out there can a person be and still be a Catholic? Just Curious. Thanks and God bless.
If you describe yourself as a member of the golf club and the golf club secretary describes you as a member, then ordinarily it would be pretty difficult to show that you are not a member, even if you haven’t played a game for several years.

Usually liberal Catholics of the type you are describing have a vision for what they think the church should be like, and try to push it in that direction through acts of disobedience. They are pretty clearly members, though maybe not in good standing. A pupil of a school doesn’t cease to be a pupil because he smokes behind the bike sheds.
 
Agree with most everything you said. Except the POPE is NOT the head of the ROMAN Catholic Church. The POPE IS THE HEAD of the CATHOLIC CHURCH.

A “Roman Catholic” belongs to the Latin Rite of the Catholic Church. There are Eastern Rite Catholics that also are in UNION with the POPE and they too belong to the Catholic Church.

Our Catechism is called the “Catechism of the Catholic Church”.

To learn more about the Eastern Rite Catholics within the Catholic Church I suggest reading this article: The Rite Not to Be Roman {click here}

Or What All Catholics Should Know About Eastern Catholic Churches {click here}

We belong to the Catholic Church, within the Catholic Church there are 2 rites The Latin Rite and the Eastern Rite.

If you call yourself a Roman Catholic then you belong to the Latin Rite of the Catholic Church.
[confused] The Pope is the head of the Roman Catholic Church, which is also the Catholic Church. There is also the American Catholic Church, which I don’t think ANYBODY would recommend. I do understand there is the Latin Rite, which I enjoy very much. I’m not familiar with other Rites; just that these other Rites follow a different breviary and possibly even a different missal, This is my understanding…

So why are you saying there is a difference between Roman Catholic and Catholic?

I love these forums. So full of Q and A! 👍
 
[confused] The Pope is the head of the Roman Catholic Church, which is also the Catholic Church. There is also the American Catholic Church, which I don’t think ANYBODY would recommend. I do understand there is the Latin Rite, which I enjoy very much. I’m not familiar with other Rites; just that these other Rites follow a different breviary and possibly even a different missal, This is my understanding…

So why are you saying there is a difference between Roman Catholic and Catholic?

I love these forums. So full of Q and A! 👍
The Catholic Church is made up of the Church on earth, The Church in Purgatory, and the Church in Heaven. The Head of the Catholic Church is Christ. The Visable head of the Catholic Church on earth is the Pope. The Catholic Church on earth is made up of 23 Churches, one of them is the Western Latin Rite Catholic Church, the others are the Eastern Rite Catholic Churches. The main Liturgical Rite of this Latin Church is the Roman Rite.

There is a difference between the “American Catholic Church” and “The Catholic Church in America”.
 
Being Catholic means that you believe what the Catholic Church teaches and live out the Catholic faith in your everyday actions.
And yet. A Catholic who believes next to nothing, and hasn’t been to Church in 6 years still must be married in the Church or the Church would consider his marriage invalid. So, while it is obviously the fullness of catholicity to be living and believing the faith, there nevertheless remains a vestigial catholicity that the Church recognizes as Catholic.
 
I have heard and read about some Catholics that are “Liberal” and rather not Orthadox Catholics. I was just wondering, How far out there can a person be and still be a Catholic? Just Curious. Thanks and God bless.
The disciples were Catholic and that includes Judas…
 
Agree with most everything you said. Except the POPE is NOT the head of the ROMAN Catholic Church. The POPE IS THE HEAD of the CATHOLIC CHURCH.

A “Roman Catholic” belongs to the Latin Rite of the Catholic Church. There are Eastern Rite Catholics that also are in UNION with the POPE and they too belong to the Catholic Church.

Our Catechism is called the “Catechism of the Catholic Church”.

To learn more about the Eastern Rite Catholics within the Catholic Church I suggest reading this article: The Rite Not to Be Roman {click here}

Or What All Catholics Should Know About Eastern Catholic Churches {click here}

We belong to the Catholic Church, within the Catholic Church there are 2 rites The Latin Rite and the Eastern Rite.

If you call yourself a Roman Catholic then you belong to the Latin Rite of the Catholic Church.
There are not two rites in the Catholic Church, there are many more.

Recommended reading:

ewtn.com/expert/answers/catholic_rites_and_churches.htm
 
The Catholic Church is made up of the Church on earth, The Church in Purgatory, and the Church in Heaven. The Head of the Catholic Church is Christ. The Visable head of the Catholic Church on earth is the Pope. The Catholic Church on earth is made up of 23 Churches, one of them is the Western Latin Rite Catholic Church, the others are the Eastern Rite Catholic Churches. The main Liturgical Rite of this Latin Church is the Roman Rite.

There is a difference between the “American Catholic Church” and “The Catholic Church in America”.
I knew there was a huge difference between the two, which is why I recommended nobody go to the American Catholic Church. They practise heresies and don’t follow the Pope.
There are not two rites in the Catholic Church, there are many more.
Recommended reading:
Ohh! Thank you. Reading that cleared everything up for me. I didn’t know this many Rites existed. Now, just to clarify, the EWTN’s Mass is Latin Rite, am I right? I know St. Michael’s mass from Vision TV is Novus Ordo, but I’m not sure what Diocese of Toronto’s mass from CTV is and seems weird to me.
%between%
 
Just to answer my own question, I finally found out. EWTN’s Mass is the Franciscan Mass. They explained that on EWTN.
 
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