How is contriception linked to lowering morality

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I hear alot on why contriception is bad but I would like to hear what people have to say on how contriception can be linked to all the problems we have today in society. Im explaing this to one of my wifes aunts. And I want her to see why contriception is not the answer to poverty and aids and so on.
 
Contraception promotes a life of casual sex. That is sex for pleasure with anyone anywhere anytime. This results in sex outside out marriage being common, forming deeping emotional, psychological, and biochemical bonds between individuals who are not committed to loving each other. This leads to people using other people for their own entertainment. From here, physical abuse become much more likely.

Also, it leads to short term thinking among people, so long term commitments to people and goal become more difficult.

Many forms of contraception are arbortificants, actually killing the children resulting from the intercourse. If you are already doing this, surgical abortion is not much worse.

Once you start down the immortality trail, it is much easier to add other immortalities, such as fudging your taxes, speeding (even by a few miles over the speed limit). It is easier to devalue human life. As long as you do not get caught, it is ok.

Contraception is one of the pillars of a lifestyle of Hedonism & Death. It is never justified and never right.

It also leads to many physical problems related to the contraception and the free-sex lifestyle.

Say “NO” to contraception always.
 
Well, for one thing, contraception leads to the “mind set” that sex is not about having babies.

If sex is not about having babies, what happens when the contraception fails and a pregnancy occurs? The couple wasn’t prepared for that, you know. Hence, we have abortion.

If sex is not about having babies, why not have widespread pornography?

If sex is not about having babies, why not allow homosexual couples to marry?

In fact, if sex is not about having babies, one could argue that incest and bestiality be allowed.

A contraceptive mind set creates a definite lowering of morality.
 
Odell, see Janet Smith’s article titiled, Contraceptoin:Why Not at www.catholiceducation.org. This article is the best i’ve seen on this issue.
Yes I listend to the cd for the first time last week> I wish I could memorize it.

I like to hear what people have to say and I have got some good one here so far. I can just click and past what I like and give her a printed explination of why we believe what we believe. I would give here the cd if I knew she would listen to it.

Thanks for the replies but if anyone has anything to add please do.
 
I hear alot on why contriception is bad but I would like to hear what people have to say on how contriception can be linked to all the problems we have today in society. Im explaing this to one of my wifes aunts. And I want her to see why contriception is not the answer to poverty and aids and so on.
I highly recommend that you get the tape or CD from www.omsoul.com called “Contraception Why Not?” by Dr. Janet Smith. They will even send you one free copy, and additional copies for a small fee like $1 or $2 dollars.

www.omsoul.com has many good brochures on contraception, and they have one called “The Root Of The Problem” which shows how contraception is at the root of abortion, sex outside marriage, and the lowering of morality.

I also suggest these brochures available from the site.
 
Contraception may be essential if you love some one, you are married to them, and you have a very ‘hands on’ relationship, but are not ready for kids, contraception is the best way to avoid unforseen pregnancy.
I mean, lets face it, no matter how much you wish that your kids not to, one day they might have a crazy moment, and sleep with their boy/girlfriend. this means that if they are unprepared, it could result, again, in an unforseen pregnancy. at least for their sake, after punding the ‘know some-one before sleeping with them’ drill into their head, you might wanna say, if by the off chance you do sleep with your boyfriend, use these so you dont die of aids or the like.
Cya,
Wammy
 
I hear alot on why contriception is bad but I would like to hear what people have to say on how contriception can be linked to all the problems we have today in society. Im explaing this to one of my wifes aunts. And I want her to see why contriception is not the answer to poverty and aids and so on.
Well, on the buses in my area are big adverts from Planned Parenthood with a photo of a very nice-looking young lady and the legend, “Birth control makes all my other choices possible.”

Yeah, well, it makes your choice to sleep around without fear of consequences possible. Let’s say arguendo that there really are no consequences to the young lady. But since there are plenty of others like her that raises the pressure men can exert on young ladies who don’t want to sleep around. Many may accept the “everybody’s doing it” argument – which carries more force when half of everybody is doing than when only ten percent are as was the case when I was a teenager.

And the truth is there are consequences. If Ms PP chooses to have sex it’s probably because she thinks she & her man are “in a relationship” whereas he may just go back to his buddies and boast about getting some the night before (high fives all around).
Being used by, or using other human beings for pleasure is not a good habit to get into.
 
Contraception may be essential if you love some one, you are married to them, and you have a very ‘hands on’ relationship, but are not ready for kids, contraception is the best way to avoid unforseen pregnancy.
I mean, lets face it, no matter how much you wish that your kids not to, one day they might have a crazy moment, and sleep with their boy/girlfriend. this means that if they are unprepared, it could result, again, in an unforseen pregnancy. at least for their sake, after punding the ‘know some-one before sleeping with them’ drill into their head, you might wanna say, if by the off chance you do sleep with your boyfriend, use these so you dont die of aids or the like.
Cya,
Wammy
Im sorry this was a thred on how contaceptian is linked to adultry sex before marriage lowering of morality. But since you brought this up why dont you just tell your kids how to do drugs without overdoseing I mean if by off chance they go to a party that has drugs and you do try them.

You are basically telling you kids its ok. Think about it you kid gets hot and heavy with her boyfriend in the car he forgot he dont have a condom. Do you think that they are going to stop what they are doing to go to a store? I think not they are going to take the risk.

But thanks for your post. I think I do see the lowering in morality since contaception has come out. My grandfather would never have told my mom if by chance, you should use protection. And yes there was protection back then. Maybe YOU are why we have so many premarital sex. You are exctly the type of parent I dont want my doughter to be dating your son. How about take the time to teach your kid why they should wait. Hey I know why dont you teach your kid how to get one without her boyfriend I mean you cant get any safer than that. The problem is you probly dont even see anything wrong with that.
 
Im sorry this was a thred on how contaceptian is linked to adultry sex before marriage lowering of morality. But since you brought this up why dont you just tell your kids how to do drugs without overdoseing I mean if by off chance they go to a party that has drugs and you do try them.

You are basically telling you kids its ok. Think about it you kid gets hot and heavy with her boyfriend in the car he forgot he dont have a condom. Do you think that they are going to stop what they are doing to go to a store? I think not they are going to take the risk.

But thanks for your post. I think I do see the lowering in morality since contaception has come out. My grandfather would never have told my mom if by chance, you should use protection. And yes there was protection back then. Maybe YOU are why we have so many premarital sex. You are exctly the type of parent I dont want my doughter to be dating your son. How about take the time to teach your kid why they should wait. Hey I know why dont you teach your kid how to get one without her boyfriend I mean you cant get any safer than that. The problem is you probly dont even see anything wrong with that.
hahahaha! you seem very biased, and don’t worry, opinionated is good! i do have rules. if my daughter were 17 and wanted to have sex, I would obviously intervene, but if she was 18, had a job, was at uni or tafe, and had a kind boyfriend who i knew was a good man, i would say ‘As long as you use protection’. as for me not caring about getting one with out her boyfriend, what are you talking about???also, whats up with ’ you are the reason we have so many pre-marital sex’. pre marital sex what ??? are you blaming me for some thing that happens all over the world?
Cya, from your puzzled amico,
Wammy
 
Wammy,

I suggest you wait until you have a teen-aged daughter before you start talking about what you would say to your teen-aged daughter.

Have you ever read any of the Catholic writings about marriage and the family? They tell you what sex is all about. One of the biggest tragedies in my life is that I didn’t read them until my wife and I had been married for ten years.
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I hear alot on why contriception is bad but I would like to hear what people have to say on how contriception can be linked to all the problems we have today in society. Im explaing this to one of my wifes aunts. And I want her to see why contriception is not the answer to poverty and aids and so on.
I know others have said this and the resources given here are great but to add my two cents:

To me, contraception (or more explicitly the public acceptance) is the nucleus of why we have the problems we have today. The rise in pornography is tied to the birth of the pill. There’s a reason why Playboy is a large, if not the largest, funder of Planned Parenthood. Contraception takes away the responsibility of parenthood from men in general and reduces each other to mere objects for pleasure. That makes us inhuman. If we can not control our desires of the flesh, then we certainly are nothing more than animals devoid of rational thought. We are slaves to the flesh, rather then being free from it.

Once we see each other generally as only objects that simply fulfill our desires, we reduce others to that simplisitc thinking. It leads to abuse of the elderly, the handicapped, children, and other people who aren’t seen as “human” but rather “drains on society” that keep us from fulfilling our own selfish pleasures. We resent the demands on our time and resources (namely monetary) because we no longer want to sacrifice.

The number one cause of death for pregnant women? Murder. Why is that now that contraception is so available and abortion is so easy to obtain?
 
here is somthing I was talking about with my wife today. Most girls want to wait until marriage. And want to do the right thing. But society tells them sex is good. Not that it isnt but it is good for anyone married and unmarried. They find what they think to be a good boyfriend. They get on birthcontrol after all thats what the parents want them to do if they are going to do it anyway. The guy realizes he can get more from someone else everyday. Or he slips up at a party, awsome every high school boys dream. The girls heart is broke. It want be long she finds another boyfriend. But shes still on the pill just incase old boyfriend comes back. Things start geting seriouse with boyfriend #2 somehow he is different than the other. But he breaks her heart too. Now everone else is haveing sex she done it before. She has a few drinks at a party. Gets atracted to some boy they do it after all she already had 2 partners what does it matter tonight im going to have fun its just sex. before you know it she has up to 8 partners before she is married. Its jsut sex its somthing we do. now what is the difference in cheating on a husbad or vise versa. Its just sex… society is losing the meaning behind sex.

I might not be the best at showing how but I do not see how you can not see a lowring in moralty in society.
 
100 years ago, before ABC was commonly available, women protected their dignity and guarded their purity. They did not go to places or put themselves in situations that may lead to that. And men respected it. They knew that ALL the women were waiting til marriage, so a man knew he better plan on supporting a wife.
Nowadays, men know they can ‘get the milk for free without buying the cow’, so they give nothing in return. Many young women get used and dumped, so the man can go on to the next one. If all the young women would say ‘no, not until we’re married’, the rate of disease and abortion would plummet. Children would again be able to have both a father and a mother to raise them.
 
There is a lot of good stuff on the thread. I would like to ask you and your wife’s aunts to consider a bigger issue, one that expands past sex. Every person has countless options in life and will select many and bypass many. If you select the do what feels good and use all means to shun responsibility, then the slippery slopes of cohabitation, multiple marriages, abortion, drugs, addictions (many forms), and eventually stealing, lying. etc come to you. All people face this issues at times, but the failure always involves the - I can do 1 or 2 of these things because I can handle it and this is not wrong. But it is never really 1 or 2 it is the easy way out and becomes 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, etc.
 
100 years ago, before ABC was commonly available, women protected their dignity and guarded their purity. They did not go to places or put themselves in situations that may lead to that. And men respected it. They knew that ALL the women were waiting til marriage, so a man knew he better plan on supporting a wife.
Nowadays, men know they can ‘get the milk for free without buying the cow’, so they give nothing in return. Many young women get used and dumped, so the man can go on to the next one. If all the young women would say ‘no, not until we’re married’, the rate of disease and abortion would plummet. Children would again be able to have both a father and a mother to raise them.
This is what I was looking for thanks.
Problem is most girls give up on waiting even if that is what they intended on because whats the use most guys dont care all they want is sex I better give it to them or im going to be lonly all my life. Men have a lot to do with women on birthcontrol. Then when they get older they wonder why it is so hard to find a good girl. Without realizing mabe it is because of how they been treated by men like them in the first place.

Most women want to be good in the first place
Most guys dont want to be good until its to late
 
100 years ago, before ABC was commonly available, women protected their dignity and guarded their purity. They did not go to places or put themselves in situations that may lead to that. And men respected it. They knew that ALL the women were waiting til marriage, so a man knew he better plan on supporting a wife.
Nowadays, men know they can ‘get the milk for free without buying the cow’, so they give nothing in return. Many young women get used and dumped, so the man can go on to the next one. If all the young women would say ‘no, not until we’re married’, the rate of disease and abortion would plummet. Children would again be able to have both a father and a mother to raise them.
100 yrs ago, women did not have the right to vote, own land or their own money. Their husbands had the right to abuse them (and have a honey on the side), the man also had the right to leave his wife and kids, and she had no legal recourse.

Wow! let’s go back to that. You’ve come a long way, baby!

I will agree that if women “respected” themselves as a human being, and didn’t fall for every letch that came down the pike, yes indeed, the rate of children not having a mommy and daddy would improve greatly. For some reason, women have become more “desparate” in thinking their “completion” is to be with a man, any man…not taking into consideration their own happiness.
 
100 yrs ago, women did not have the right to vote, own land or their own money. Their husbands had the right to abuse them (and have a honey on the side), the man also had the right to leave his wife and kids, and she had no legal recourse.

Wow! let’s go back to that. You’ve come a long way, baby!
But actually it was this problem that was indicitive of the pendulum swinging towards contraception. I’ve been researching the history of contraception and discovered some interesting things. The lowering of morality can be shown to be caused in part by contraception using this precise example. The current revision of history leads people to believe that women were denied the right to vote by the ‘big bad Catholic Church.’ Not true.

Many people think that because the laws changed in 1930 that it was in that time period that contraception was the hot topic. Contraception was a hot topic already in the 1810s. Malthus was promoting it a century before the 1930 law changes. The environment that influenced Malthusian thinking was linked to the idea of superiority. “Thoroughbreds” is what his followers called themselves. The right to vote was denied to all those considered ‘unfit.’ Who decided fit vs. unfit? The self-proclaimed fit of course. Throughout history, it has always been the poor who have been denied voting rights. Denying voting rights to any other group is just an extension of the same mentality.

I second the recommendation of Dr. Smith’s talk. She references Malthus and his population scare. It was when I finally started researching history that I was able to see the link and defend it. I recommend a book called, Margaret Sanger, Father of Modern Society, by Elasah Drogin. It might be out of print. I found it on Amazon though.

The story of Dorothy Day (former suffragette and founder of The Catholic Worker) is also a good reference for it. Women were denied the right to vote in western civilization thanks in part to issues like contraception. We women know what happens when we know the truth about our bodies. We will not be silenced! Contraception is not a new problem. It is just a new face on the same old problem, sin.
 
Margaret Sanger
life.org.nz/abortionaboutabortionglobalhistory10.htm

Humanae Vitae
life.org.nz/abortionreligiouskeyissuesromancatholicism6.htm
Grave Consequences of Methods of Artificial Birth Control
17. Upright men can even better convince themselves of the solid grounds on which the teaching of the Church in this field is based, if they care to reflect upon the consequences of methods of artificial birth control. Let them consider, first of all, how wide and easy a road would thus be opened up towards conjugal infidelity and the general lowering of morality.
Not much experience is needed in order to know human weakness, and to understand that men – especially the young, who are so vulnerable on this point – have need of encouragement to be faithful to the moral law, so that they must not be offered some easy means of eluding its observance. It is also to be feared that the man, growing used to the employment of anti-conceptive practices, may finally lose respect for the woman and, no longer caring for her physical and psychological equilibrium, may come to the point of considering her as a mere instrument of selfish enjoyment, and no longer his respected and beloved companion.
Let it be considered also that a dangerous weapon would thus be placed in the hands of those public authorities who take no heed of moral exigencies. Who could blame a government for applying to the solution of the problems of the community those means acknowledged to be licit for married couples in the solution of a family problem? Who will stop rulers from favoring, from even imposing upon their peoples, if they were to consider it necessary, the method of contraception which they judge to be more efficacious? In such a way men, wishing to avoid individual, family, or social difficulties encountered in the observance of the divine law, would reach the point of placing at the mercy of the intervention of public authorities the most personal and most reserved sector of conjugal intimacy.
Prophetic words, indeed.
 
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