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Texas_Roofer
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What a terrible post above and unrelated as many homosexuals do not have the anatomy for such action
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Polaris
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Yes like when you consider the number of woman that die due to complications associated with pregnancy over all time. It is clearly a punishment from God for misuse. Many a gnostic probably believe this Punishent from God is a hard thing to determine in any arguement. Stay away from it.
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monica1950
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What does a natural function have to do with an UNNATURAL function>
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Polaris
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well you are using a consequece to defend your belief that homosexuality is wrong and unnatural. So am I.
Well, the principle applies, and yes, it’s a terrible post for a terrible deed.
By the way, I assume we are talking about the deed, not the orientation.
But you get the idea.
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Texas_Roofer
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So do you believe the issue only applies to men? 'oh wait hetero couples maybe doing the same action!
I said, the principle applies. That means, female homosexuals are not designed for it either, any more than two electrical outlets can connect a circuit.
As for hetero’s, well, they shouldn’t be doing it either, should they?
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Texas_Roofer
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Then the point of post #38 is what? as it includes these hetero and excludes lesbians
One more time: the principle applies.
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Polaris
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Actually heteros are allowed to just as long as they finish in the proper location. Same thing with everything else.
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Texas_Roofer
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The post is void of principle
Yes, meaning the action is not in itself immoral
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iamrefreshed
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So prostitution should be legal?First the natrual law on poygamy. You can look on new advent or in Good old aquinas. It does say that it can cause disunity but this is why Polygamy (single male with multiple female) is ok according to natural law from newadvent:
The classic instance alleged as an example of (b) is the legalization of polygamy among the Hebrews. Polygamy, however, is not under all circumstances incompatible with the essential principles of a rationally ordered life, since the chief ends prescribed by nature for the marital union–the propagation of the race and the due care and education of offspring–may, in certain states of society, be attained in a polygamous union.
Classically multiple male, single female was never acceptable because the child could not know who his father was, however in this day an age that can be known so it will not hurt the child.
(translation to modern ears the church is classically sexist)
incest is similiar to rape because your judgment is seriously impaired. Usually the “father” will molest his own daughter before the age of reason it attained. (More proofs of the evils of heteosexual marriage.) However if it is after that age, Im fine with it. God did it in the past and his law does not change.
How does prostitution empower. It gives them a steady income where they do not have to be supported by a man to survive. It is when it is illegal that more problems with abuse and drug use come into play by pimps. In Argentina it is legal and they do quite well and are protected by the government from pimps and operate safely.
(note parts I believe parts I dont, Im trying to get to truth without a Christian basis and “pure logic”…(You should see a problem and that is what Im trying to get people to see)
First off almost all prostitutes were sexually abused as children and use sex as a coping mechanism for their past abuse. So you condone to continue to abuse the abused??
I won’t even go into the incest thing
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buffalo
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I think the article is very useful. The article does not bring in religion.
Do you disagree with this?
Defeating Gay Arguments with Simple Logic
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The heart of “gay” sophistry is the redefinition of homosexuality as a state-of-being and not a form of sexual behavior. This allows the “gay” movement to define homosexuals as a civil rights minority comparable to African-Americans and other groups whose minority status is based on truly immutable characteristics. In turn, this allows the “gay” movement to inherit and exploit all of the legal, political and social gains of the civil rights movement for its own ends.
Sexual orientation theory is the vehicle for “selling” the idea of homosexuality as normal and immutable. It creates a context in which sexuality can be divorced from physiology. Only by making the design and function of the human body irrelevant can “gay” strategists avoid otherwise self-evident truths about homosexuality.
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Texas_Roofer
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So are you imply “gay” people have no civil rights? thus any civil rights they have are exploited from real people?
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buffalo
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Chaste homosexuals have exactly the same civil rights as any citizen except the unborn.
Is the right to practice the “gay” lifestyle protected in our Constitution?
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Ender
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If right and wrong are whatever an individual believes them to be then all morality is relative. Homosexual behavior is either right or wrong independent of what we believe, or right and wrong are illusory concepts. Distinguishing right from wrong is not a matter of deciding but of discovering; our opinions are irrelevant. The argument above is irrational: either the Church and the Bible are true, in which case we reject them at our peril, or they are not, in which case we should reject them outright. It makes no sense whatever to pick and choose.
There is one statement above that is correct though: “You can’t prove it’s wrong.” I mentioned in an earlier post that one cannot prove the existence of morality. My response to statements like this is to challenge the person to first prove that any action is immoral as a way of pointing out that what he asks is impossible, like trying to prove an axiom in mathematics.
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Polaris
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… WAKE UP A CALL I DONT BELIEVE Everything of WHAT I WROTE! I have gotten into these arguements way too many times count and can quote you the answers by heart. The problem is you and I operate from a system of logic that GOD ordered the universe. That is now not the norm, even for some catholics. If you want to argue that homosexuality is wrong with just pure logic and without GOD, it cant be done. Logic without God is very different and allows for many possiblities.So prostitution should be legal?
First off almost all prostitutes were sexually abused as children and use sex as a coping mechanism for their past abuse. So you condone to continue to abuse the abused??
I won’t even go into the incest thing
Natural law at its base operates on an assumption that God exsist.
The only way you can convince them of your logic is if you first convince them that God ordered the universe, next that the Church understand these laws and then you can convince them with your logic system, that you are “right”.
You want to teach anyone that homosexuality is wrong you have to first convert them. That is all.
NOW DO YOU UNDERSTAND?
It seems obvious to me. That conversion is the only way you can win this.
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jmcrae
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They, too, are committing a grave sin when they do this - or anything at all where the body parts are not being arranged in the way that God designed them to be arranged.
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Texas_Roofer
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so you exclude the non Chaste? That would put you at odds with the Church
I would think so but I am not a lawyer, certainly not studied at constitutional law
*Amendment 10 - Powers of the States and People. Ratified 12/15/1791.
The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.*
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buffalo
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Non chaste have the same civil rights, too.
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