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Those that did so were going against clear policy of The Church of Jesus Christ. The Church has recently taken even further steps to stop this from happening, and has emphasized its dismay.
I don’t “pretend” anything. As I have said about multiple things, because the Lord’s Church is made up of fallible humans, there are people that do things for the wrong reasons. This is no different, and in many cases (and I am not saying that your own experience is one of these), people mistake the genuine love and concern many Latter-day Saints have for their fellow man, both spiritually and temporally, for simply trying to “get numbers”. The vast majority of times, in my experience and that of many others, that is not the case. I have so many friends in the Church who are so selfless in their helping their fellow man (whether in the Church or outside of it), and I am grateful for their example as disciples of Jesus Christ.
Ah yes, most Catholics do “high tail it out of Mass as quick as they can”, sometimes even before the hymn and recessional are finished. Latter-day Saints don’t “stick around to gossip”, but “stick around” because Sunday School typically occurs afterwards (some congregations have the order differently). Why on earth would I “talk to some of the former mormons on here” when I as an actual Latter-day Saint am a member of a ward? And just as you have your personal experiences (or more correctly the experiences of your family member) and that of ex-Latter-day Saints, I have my own personal experiences, as well as the experiences of ex-Catholics. It really is interesting to me how similar this conversation is to some of the things I’ve seen on other forums, except insert “Catholic” or “ex-Catholic” for “Mormon” or “ex-Mormon”. If someone is telling others about the disciplinary status of a Latter-day Saint, let alone before the person in question knows, they are obviously in the wrong.
Point out the conflicting statements. There are none.
Please provide the context that I allegedly am “not getting”. Your statement is simply a dismissal without addressing the issue. Whether or not it is part of “canon law” is not the point, of course. The point is that the previous practice of pronouncing some excommunicated from the Catholic Church as “vitandi”, and its relationship to shunning, from an “institutional” level (vs an individual level), is pertinent to your comparisons to The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints (more specifically to some of its members)
There is no need to reread what you said, it was very clear. You said “Mormon baptisms may have to be redone after someone leaves, but a valid Christian baptism does not. That is the BIG difference.”. What you stated is obviously the Catholic viewpoint. I also clearly referred to the fact that some Eastern Orthodox churches baptize Catholic (and all other for that matter) converts, and even those that receive Catholic converts by Chrismation do so with the understanding that the chrismation “makes up” for any deficiencies in the non-Orthodox sacraments. Also, are you saying that an Evangelical that believes in the Trinity, is part of the “reformed” Protestant tradition, and “believer’s baptism” that baptizes someone that had an infant baptism is “far from mainstream”? Interesting. Again, your viewpoint is that of the Catholic Church, not shared by all of traditional Christianity, including many of the Eastern Orthodox churches.
No, “see above” means that it already has been addressed…above.
Of course, and I am speaking from my own experience, and I’m sure you can go to a Latter-day Saint forum and inquire about their own experiences as well, if you would like to hear about our experiences as current, believing members. I’m sure there are those who have had bad experiences with a bishop, however those are far from the norm, just like how the bad experiences that some have had in the Catholic Church and with Catholic leaders are far from the norm as well.
Last I knew, the 10 Commandments are not the only commandments in the Bible (if we are adopting a “Bible alone” stance for this argument), so I am not sure what you are saying.
As far as what else you have mentioned, I am sure that does not happen as frequently as you think, nor do I think the negative experiences and things that ex-Catholics talk about happen as frequently as they would have us believe either.
I don’t fail to see anything. Latter-day Saints believe that tithing is a commandment from God, one out of many. If one does not have any money, they can still enter the temple, as 10% of nothing is nothing (as is frequently the case with students and the unemployed). I have seen a few poor people in the temple (who are personally known to me), as well as a host of students who do not have income, and I have actually discussed this with my bishop as well, as a student. Just because one is without income to tithe does not mean that they are not allowed entry to the temple (to even entertain that idea is amusing to me).
I assume you have never actually been in a temple of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints. You are not limited to “hanging around” to 15 minutes. You can be in the house of the Lord for as long as you like. Some spend half an hour, some spend all day. No one tells you to leave (unless of course the temple is closing!). Now, by “15 minutes” I assume you’re making a reference to that Big Love episode with the temple scene. That scene was very amusing to Latter-day Saints, since no one comes around to tell you “I’m sorry, your 15 minutes is up” in the Celestial Room of the temple. That has never happened to me, and I’ve attended various temples. A quick Google search even shows multiple articles denouncing that “15 minutes are up” scene of Big Love as inaccurate, including one by a vocal critic of the Church.
I used a bad website. Give me a break, I am new at this stuff 
I was fairly nutty, after what I had been through. My first forum was quite tolerant, and I learned to laugh at myself from them. “You say some funny things, and you don’t even mean to be funny.”
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