How is this possible?

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I was watching a news program about a young man ( 22yrs old) he caused a car accident due to him not paying attention and crashed into the rear of someones car, it turns out the passenger was pregnant and she lost the baby due to this wreck, no one else died though, he was charged with vehicular homicide due to the fetus dying, but I kept wondering how they could charge him like this, as they clearly allow abortions, which is the same thing.

He was found guilty and got 15 yrs behind bars. His lawyer is working on appealing, but he will probably be in jail for awhile.

How can the legal system charge this guy, yet NOT charge the doctor down the street doing the same exact thing? It seems to me, the DA uses the law to their advantage from case to case, just to get convictions, or using the law to suit whatever need they have at a given time. This does not sound right to me. If this kid was charged, then all the abortion doctors should get the same charge, as there is no difference, they both have killed fetuses.
 
but I kept wondering how they could charge him like this, as they clearly allow abortions, which is the same thing…]How can the legal system charge this guy, yet NOT charge the doctor down the street doing the same exact thing?
I think it’s dependent on the parent’s intentions to have the child.
 
If the mother decides to have the child killed, it’s legal. But if someone else causes the child to be killed, it can be a crime, like vehicular homicide.
 
As others have said, legally an unborn child is a human being unless the mother wants to have him or her killed (or unless they were conceived in vitro and have not been implanted in a womb).
 
As others have said, legally an unborn child is a human being unless the mother wants to have him or her killed (or unless they were conceived in vitro and have not been implanted in a womb).
Because science says that what DNA says something is, is entirely subjective.
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I have wondered the same thing! Also, when a woman aborts a baby it’s a fetus but when a woman has a miscarriage she ‘lost the baby’ and everyone is sad for her. I don’t understand that.
 
Maybe this doesn’t happen too often but what’s are the “rights” of a surrogate mother?
 
Mikekle,
It is possible because our legal system is not operating under God’s moral code. I agree with you that both vehicular homicide and abortion are both murder.

The fifth commandment states, “Thou shall not kill.” But under US law. it is perfectly legal (while perfectly immoral) to kill an unborn child. Under US law, this young man’s innattention caused the death of an unborn child, and he will have to pay the consequences.

We all bear the consequences of abortion, millions of “missing” children and adults; the moral bankruptcy that normalizing abortion brings to society; the men and women facing regret and post-abortion depression.

Thou shall not kill. Period. Pray the rosary, defend life by your actions, your voice, your purchases. Speak for the voiceless and the defenseless. God save us, we pray.
 
It’s not JUST the mother’s intentions.

Proper modus operendi need be observed:

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Scissors (can’t leave out you late-term-er’s, you have a lobby too big for K St.).
 
Maybe this doesn’t happen too often but what’s are the “rights” of a surrogate mother?
There have been some hairy situations around that. California tends to have had to deal with those situations. They go by the decision of the intended parents. Though there was a situation some years ago where the intended parents got an egg donor, a sperm donor, and a surrogate. Their relationship broke up before the birth and when the surrogate asked about the child she was carrying the intended mother told her “That’s your problem.”

She was in a legal gray area; it was a situation where there was no intended parent. She couldn’t give the child up for adoption because it wasn’t hers. She couldn’t legally keep the child for herself either because she wasn’t granted custody.

To resolve the situation she had to wait until after the child was born and then adopt it. After she adopted it she had the right to give it up for adoption.
 
I am a Catholic Nurse midwife. A sad fact that I realized long ago is that the difference between a medical abortion and a miscarriage (medically termed a spontaneous abortion) often boils down to one thing and one thing only: whether or not a woman wants that baby at that time. Why does a women grieve over a miscarriage or choose to abort? Why be thrilled with another pregnancy only a few months later? Because in the first scenario a pregnancy is wanted-- in the 2nd case it is unwanted. We live in a “ME” culture today! A sad reality is that for the majority of women who choose abortion, it’s not about rape, incest or the woman’s tenuous health. It’s about convenience. In my personal practice, I have ran into more than one woman-- many women-- who terminated a 1st pregnancy but perhaps 3 months later got pregnant again deliberately and carried the 2nd child to term. Why? What possible difference could 3 months make in someones decision to keep or kill a tiny human being? Perhaps a woman is with a new partner the 2nd time around and she feels she’s now in love with her new partner but not her first one–thus this 2nd child is wanted. Perhaps 3 months later she has a better job or a nicer home. Perhaps she was in high school or college and now has graduated. Once, I knew a woman who aborted her first pregnancy because she was on night shift and thus felt too tired to deal with morning sickness or weight gain–but immediately chose to become pregnant again, less than 2 months later when she was re-assigned to day shift! I used to feel shock and disbelief at such things. I learned over my career to never be shocked. For every woman who chooses abortion, there’s another unbelievable but true story of why she didn’t want that particular child. There are,just as many reasons for killing the unborn as there are abortion docs willing to perform the procedure. Often, women today weigh the life of their own child against some imagined inconvenience or need in their own life–and the baby loses every time. Society today gives approval to women who choose death rather than life for their child. It assures them that there is a population explosion and that by abortion she “takes control of her body” and expresses her "reproductive “rights”. I SO wish that now that I am retired with free time that I had a podium to talk truth to women across this country. I honestly feel that I could do some good–perhaps more so than even our beloved priests or good people who picket abortion clinics. I have dealt with women considering abortion and I know where they are coming from–which is imperative if you hope to dissuade them from choosing to abort. You see, I have been in the trenches for years with women making life and death decisions about their unborn babies. Sometimes–not always–I was blessed by God to have intervened enough to dissuade a woman and help her to choose life. I live in Alaska now but have practiced in many states. Alaska, as in other states, demonstrates a correlation between race and women having abortions–particularly multiple abortions. I have personally had women come to me with statistics showing that they are a G10,P1 --which stands for gravida 10 (the number of her total pregnancies) and para 1 (the number of pregnancies resulting in a live birth). For the most part, the missing 9 pregnancies will not have been spontaneous losses, but rather the mother’s personal choice to end them . I did my graduate program in Massachusetts and lived for 2 years in Maine some years ago. When I lived back east, the number of medical abortions rose in the African American population. Here it rises in the Alaskan native population. Medicaid will pay for an abortion just as it will pay for a live delivery. Sadly, each time you or I pay our income tax, we fund abortions. We don’t do it willingly, but the bottom line is that’s how our system works. Are you pro life? YES? Would you ever assist a woman to terminate her pregnancy? NO, you say–absolutely NOT-- I would never participate in the death of an unborn child! Let me tell everyone who is reading this post one simple thing. Like it or not, you and I are paying to kill many unborn babies of our nation’s poor and minority women each time we look at our federal or state income tax tax witholding or write a check for our state or federal taxes! I’d like to tell all women–as I have multiple times in my practice---- “Stop! Don’t you see that abortion is a holocaust of your culture–not a freedom? Don’t you realize that if you hate being thought of as a minority yet you and others in your ethnic group keep killing your unborn children, that one day you will find that you are not simply a minority–your culture will be extinct?” Abortion is a means to enslave poor and minorities since medicaid will pay for the procedure. No white slave owner could ever have come up with a more evil or diabolical plan to wipe out minority races and cultures. As to your question about why your AG prosecuted the reckless driver while abortions are done every day in a clinic around the corner, the answer is simple. The AG–even if he/she wanted to, can not prosecute a legitimate doctor who does abortions. Abortion, unfortunately, is legal in the USA. Reckless driving is not legal. If all mothers loved all their children from the moment of conception, abortion would cease. As long as mothers are unwilling to endure any inconvenience for their children, abortion will thrive in our society. The difference in a single word is LOVE. Everything in our world always boils down to LOVE! Abortion is murder and murder is the consummate sin against loving our neighbor. :banghead::
 
I SO wish that now that I am retired with free time that I had a podium to talk truth to women across this country.
Have you considered getting your ideas together in a blog or youtube page until you do have the opportunity at a podium? What do you think would have convinced some of these women to not have the abortion(s)?
I have dealt with women considering abortion and I know where they are coming from–which is imperative if you hope to dissuade them from choosing to abort.
Yes, I think being able to relate to some one is important in being able to establish a connection with the person so that they will listen to what you have to say.

BTW: If I may provide an unsolicited suggestion. I think a few line breaks here and there make a post easier to read.
 
There have been some hairy situations around that. California tends to have had to deal with those situations. They go by the decision of the intended parents. Though there was a situation some years ago where the intended parents got an egg donor, a sperm donor, and a surrogate. Their relationship broke up before the birth and when the surrogate asked about the child she was carrying the intended mother told her “That’s your problem.”

She was in a legal gray area; it was a situation where there was no intended parent. She couldn’t give the child up for adoption because it wasn’t hers. She couldn’t legally keep the child for herself either because she wasn’t granted custody.

To resolve the situation she had to wait until after the child was born and then adopt it. After she adopted it she had the right to give it up for adoption.
Thanks. Legally that seems plausible.
 
I have wondered the same thing! Also, when a woman aborts a baby it’s a fetus but when a woman has a miscarriage she ‘lost the baby’ and everyone is sad for her. I don’t understand that.
But the situations are completely different 😦 I had many miscarriages, and it is sad, traumatic, and scarred me for years. If some other woman kills her baby it doesn’t change my grief- in fact, it compounds it.
 
But the situations are completely different 😦 I had many miscarriages, and it is sad, traumatic, and scarred me for years. If some other woman kills her baby it doesn’t change my grief- in fact, it compounds it.
I think you misunderstood me. I in no way meant to imply that people should not be sad for a miscarriage. What I meant was that when a woman gets an abortion those who agree with the abortion laws often just say that it’s a mass of tissue. No reason to mourn because in their eyes it was never a baby. But if that same woman later decides she wants a child then miscarries then people say she lost the baby not a mass of tissue.

So if you don’t want a child it’s a mass of tissue (I worked with a woman who used that exact phrase) and if you DO want a child it transforms into a baby.

I believe it’s a baby from the moment of conception.
 
Kookieduck you hit the nail on the head. In our society, the worth of human life in the womb is often determined by the timing and inconvenience of those around it. I am a women’s health care provider and have seen many women who terminate a pregnancy and get pregnant again on purpose even 3 months later–and really want the 2nd baby! (If they want it, it’s always a baby–if not, it’s only a pregnancy…) What could possibly make one life expendable and another life only 3 months later treasured? Timing and circumstance! I had a miscarriage too many years ago. I have 5 living, adult children and the miscarriage still saddens me.
 
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