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I wonder if they give haircuts in heaven/ 
Why don’t you look it up & find out? I know it’s in there like many people on here & wasn’t finding it so easy during a search, so I didn’t put it up. I’m not acting in good faith to you, huh? What about you then? Yes I’m a don’t know, as in I don’t know what exact part of the bible the verse is in obviously. Any body else want to be a critic?If you are going to refer to a passage, how difficult is it to google the passage and verify, before you mention it in a post, or at least when someone asks you what you are speaking about?
You appear not to be acting in good faith here. Your use of the expression “the don’t knows” (of which you apparently are one, since you seem to be too lazy to look up your own texts) is evidence of this.
Thank you… AMEN1 Cor 11:14
Just don’t watch too many of Bro. Dimond’s other sedevacantist videos… sedevacantism is a heresy.
Thanks adrift, that’s the only one I could find and I wanted to see if San Jonero would acknowledge it.1 Cor 11:14
OK, now we can unpack this for you and explain why context is important when understanding scripture.Thank you… AMEN
1 Corinthians Chapter 11
Women must have a covering over their heads. He blames the abuses of their love feasts and upon that occasion treats of the Blessed Sacrament.
1 Be ye followers of me, as I also am of Christ.
2 Now I praise you, brethren, that in all things you are mindful of me and keep my ordinances as I have delivered them to you.
3 But I would have you know that the head of every man is Christ: and the head of the woman is the man: and the head of Christ is God.
4 Every man praying or prophesying with his head covered disgraceth his head.
5 But every woman praying or prophesying with her head not covered disgraceth her head: for it is all one as if she were shaven.
6 For if a woman be not covered, let her be shorn. But if it be a shame to a woman to be shorn or made bald, let her cover her head.
7 The man indeed ought not to cover his head: because he is the image and glory of God. But the woman is the glory of the man.
8 For the man is not of the woman: but the woman of the man.
9 For the man was not created for the woman: but the woman for the man.
10 Therefore ought the woman to have a power over her head, because of the angels.
A power… that is, a veil or covering, as a sign that she is under the power of her husband: and this, the apostle adds, because of the angels, who are present in the assemblies of the faithful.
11 But yet neither is the man without the woman, nor the woman without the man, in the Lord.
12 For as the woman is of the man, so also is the man by the woman: but all things of God.
13 You yourselves judge. Doth it become a woman to pray unto God uncovered?
14 Doth not even nature itself teach you that a man indeed, if he nourish his hair, it is a shame unto him?
15 But if a woman nourish her hair, it is a glory to her; for her hair is given to her for a covering.
16 But if any man seem to be contentious, we have no such custom, nor the Church of God.
17 Now this I ordain: not praising you, that you come together, not for the better, but for the worse.
18 For first of all I hear that when you come together in the church, there are schisms among you. And in part I believe it.
19 For there must be also heresies: that they also, who are approved may be made manifest among you.
There must be also heresies… By reason of the pride and perversity of man’s heart; not by God’s will or appointment; who nevertheless draws good out of this evil, manifesting, by that occasion, who are the good and firm Christians, and making their faith more remarkable.
20 When you come therefore together into one place, it is not now to eat the Lord’s supper.
The Lord’s supper… So the apostle here calls the charity feasts observed by the primitive Christians; and reprehends the abuses of the Corinthians, on these occasions; which were the more criminal, because these feasts were accompanied with the celebrating of the eucharistic sacrifice and sacrament.
21 For every one taketh before his own supper to eat. And one indeed is hungry and another is drunk.
22 What, have you no houses to eat and to drink in? Or despise ye the church of God and put them to shame that have not? What shall I say to you? Do I praise you? In this I praise you not.
23 For I have received of the Lord that which also I delivered unto you, that the Lord Jesus, the same night in which he was betrayed, took bread,
24 And giving thanks, broke and said: Take ye and eat: This is my body, which shall be delivered for you. This do for the commemoration of me.
25 In like manner also the chalice, after he had supped, saying: This chalice is the new testament in my blood. This do ye, as often as you shall drink, for the commemoration of me.
26 For as often as you shall eat this bread and drink the chalice, you shall show the death of the Lord, until he come.
27 Therefore, whosoever shall eat this bread, or drink the chalice of the Lord unworthily, shall be guilty of the body and of the blood of the Lord.
Or drink… Here erroneous translators corrupted the text, by putting and drink (contrary to the original) instead of or drink. Guilty of the body, etc., not discerning the body, etc… This demonstrates the real presence of the body and blood of Christ, even to the unworthy communicant; who otherwise could not be guilty of the body and blood of Christ, or justly condemned for not discerning the Lord’s body.
28 But let a man prove himself: and so let him eat of that bread and drink of the chalice.
Drink of the chalice… This is not said by way of command, but by way of allowance, viz., where and when it is agreeable to the practice and discipline of the church.
29 For he that eateth and drinketh unworthily eateth and drinketh judgment to himself, not discerning the body of the Lord.
30 Therefore are there many infirm and weak among you: and many sleep.
31 But if we would judge ourselves, we should not be judged.
32 But whilst we are judged, we are chastised by the Lord, that we be not condemned with this world.
33 Wherefore, my brethren, when you come together to eat, wait for one another.
34 If any man be hungry, let him eat at home; that you come not together unto judgment. And the rest I will set in order, when I come.
Actually, that is the wrong script. Sorry that I didn’t check to make sure. I’ll try again to see if I can find the 1 I was talking about.Thanks adrift, that’s the only one I could find and I wanted to see if San Jonero would acknowledge it.
OK, now we can unpack this for you and explain why context is important when understanding scripture.
First, the quote is from St. Paul, not St. Peter. This is the reason I asked you to confirm your quote. The first thing you have to learn about scripture is to get the quote right, since there are so many similar ones.
Now, who is Paul talking to and about what? He is writing to the church in Corinth and talking to them about their practices during liturgy. Here is the whole quote: Woman is not independent of man or man of woman in the Lord. For just as woman came from man, so man is born of woman; but all things are from God. Judge for yourselves: is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head unveiled? Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears his hair long it is a disgrace to him, whereas if a woman has long hair it is her glory, because long hair has been given (her) for a covering?
Paul is talking to his Greek converts using symbolism that relates to them. He is dealing in this part of the letter with the problem the church in Corinth is having with the way women are dressing for mass. The point he makes about hair length (see also 1 Cor 4-7) is that proper women do not shave their heads or cut their hair and men do. This is because of the way it was in greek culture in Corinth at the time and that is what Paul is alluding to.
Paul is not making a specific comment on men’s hair styles in general or Jews (which would include himself and Jesus) in particular.
You are reading too much into scripture because you don’t understand who Paul was talking to and why. This my dear friend is why scripture must be viewed as a whole and in context.
Thanks & I’m sorry about that. It’s just I couldn’t remember where it was from & was having a hard time finding it. This was 1st pointed out to me by a preacher who was trying to tell me Jesus’ hair was not long & that it was Roman style, but I don’t know where he got that Roman style hair cut idea from. I really don’t care for the preacher’s preaching, especially when he’s an Apolstolic & I have never seen an Apolstolic preacher that didn’t at least say some stuff I don’t agree with. It’s just some times my friends would invite me to their church & they’re Apolstolic, but I think I’ll just have to pass from now on.Thanks adrift, that’s the only one I could find and I wanted to see if San Jonero would acknowledge it.
OK, now we can unpack this for you and explain why context is important when understanding scripture.
First, the quote is from St. Paul, not St. Peter. This is the reason I asked you to confirm your quote. The first thing you have to learn about scripture is to get the quote right, since there are so many similar ones.
Now, who is Paul talking to and about what? He is writing to the church in Corinth and talking to them about their practices during liturgy. Here is the whole quote: Woman is not independent of man or man of woman in the Lord. For just as woman came from man, so man is born of woman; but all things are from God. Judge for yourselves: is it proper for a woman to pray to God with her head unveiled? Does not nature itself teach you that if a man wears his hair long it is a disgrace to him, whereas if a woman has long hair it is her glory, because long hair has been given (her) for a covering?
Paul is talking to his Greek converts using symbolism that relates to them. He is dealing in this part of the letter with the problem the church in Corinth is having with the way women are dressing for mass. The point he makes about hair length (see also 1 Cor 4-7) is that proper women do not shave their heads or cut their hair and men do. This is because of the way it was in greek culture in Corinth at the time and that is what Paul is alluding to.
Paul is not making a specific comment on men’s hair styles in general or Jews (which would include himself and Jesus) in particular.
You are reading too much into scripture because you don’t understand who Paul was talking to and why. This my dear friend is why scripture must be viewed as a whole and in context.
I tend to think that Jesus had sort of shoulder length hair… which would not have been considered long at the time.What was considered long when Jesus walked the earth? In the bible Peter states that a man should be ashamed of himself if he has long hair.
The idea of being taller than Jesus Christ is slightly disconcerting, somehow… DB;Some may also be disappointed that if Jesus was anything like the average man of his region at the time, he was not much over 5 foot tall and weighed around 120 pounds.