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TheresaLS
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There is and I do as often as I can…thank you Pope Benedict!!!
Let’s try another question. Should we “enjoy” worshipping God? Should we not do it if we don’t enjoy it?Oh really we aren’t supposed to enjoy Mass?![]()
We shouldn’t enjoy worshipping God?Let’s try another question. Should we “enjoy” worshipping God? Should we not do it if we don’t enjoy it?
Honestly, “enjoy” is just not a word that comes to my mind regarding the Mass. It’s a word that’s not terribly applicable to the substance being discussed.
Well, if you have to take your child to the emergency room at 3 in the morning and have to stay there for hours, would you say you “enjoyed” that trip?We shouldn’t enjoy worshipping God?
What does going to the emergency room have to do with worshipping God? Why do you worship God?Well, if you have to take your child to the emergency room at 3 in the morning and have to stay there for hours, would you say you “enjoyed” that trip?
Do you think martyrs “enjoy” their martyrdom?
What does self-giving love have to do with worshipping God?What does going to the emergency room have to do with worshipping God?
Because he is God, with all that entails.Why do you worship God?
Self giving love? Boy you sure have a problem! Worshipping God is giving love to Him and Him giving love back. David sang and danced before the Lord. I enjoy giving praise and love to our Savior. He sure is God and I praise His holy name with all that is within me. I enjoy every minute I spend with Him, sorry you don’t God Bless you.What does self-giving love have to do with worshipping God?
Because he is God, with all that entails.
Taking a sick child to the emergency room means the parent (the one demonstrating self-giving love, in case you didn’t follow) has a problem?Self giving love? Boy you sure have a problem!
And in my mind “enjoy” doesn’t convey the actual feeling well at all. I am entitled to express my experiences of my own feelings, aren’t I? But we are going way off course, so I won’t keep responding along this line.Worshipping God is giving love to Him and Him giving love back. David sang and danced before the Lord. I enjoy giving praise and love to our Savior. He sure is God and I praise His holy name with all that is within me. I enjoy every minute I spend with Him, sorry you don’t God Bless you.
You are welcome but thank H.H. BXVIInteresting that you post your question. I have been considering driving an hour to the only church in our diocese that offers the Latin Mass. I remember hearing the Mass when I was young and thought it was so beautiful. I’m interested to see if it has the same appeal now that I’m older. So I will have to make the drive to find out. Thanks for posting
Hi Gwen, and welcome to the ChurchI’m a brand new Catholic. After hearing people on CAF, and other blogs, rave about the beauty of the TLM, I wanted to go see. So, I went with a very positive outlook and great hope.
I went to a TLM at a semi-rural mission church in my area. I speak Spanish fluently (should help with Latin, no?), took Latin in college, and did some studying beforehand, and had a sheet with all the prayers. Despite all of that, I couldn’t understand a word the priest said, he spoke in a very low voice and very rapidly. I simply couldn’t follow what was happening. I won’t be going back for that particular experience anytime soon. It’s fine and wonderful to say that the “active participation” of the congregation in TLM is in prayer, but when you don’t know what is happening, that’s a bit problematic. Kneeling at the pew and watching the priest move from side to side and hearing a lot of mumbling isn’t a great prayer, IMHO.
The next closest TLM is two hours away. I doubt that I’ll drive four hours and risk the same experience.
I find the OF Mass at our cathedral parish very holy. Our Fransciscans say Mass by the book (no ad-libs), the music is sacred (no guitars, no drums), the priests sing or chant many of the prayers, and many of those in Latin (Agnus Dei, Sanctus). Plus, these guys are terrific homilists. Am I lucky or what?BTW, I left a less orthodox parish, rife with abuses, for this one.
“Don’t pray at Holy Mass, but pray the Holy Mass.”
A good missal with the rubrics and commentary is needed to do this. And after several times attending, it will become second nature. It took me about 30 lol.“The Holy Mass is a prayer itself, even the highest prayer that exists. It is the Sacrifice, dedicated by our Redeemer at the Cross, and repeated every day on the altar. If you wish to hear Mass as it should be heard, you must follow with eye, heart and mouth all that happens at the altar. Further, you must pray with the priest the holy words said by him in the Name of Christ and which Christ says by him. You have to associate your heart with the holy feelings which are contained in these words and in this manner you ought to follow all that happens at the altar. When acting in this way, you have prayed Holy Mass.”
Oh course we are. Joy is a very important part of the Mass. Some forms just do it better than others.Oh really we aren’t supposed to enjoy Mass?![]()
I get turned off by the EF low Mass also.I’m a brand new Catholic. After hearing people on CAF, and other blogs, rave about the beauty of the TLM, I wanted to go see. So, I went with a very positive outlook and great hope.
I went to a TLM at a semi-rural mission church in my area. I speak Spanish fluently (should help with Latin, no?), took Latin in college, and did some studying beforehand, and had a sheet with all the prayers. Despite all of that, I couldn’t understand a word the priest said, he spoke in a very low voice and very rapidly. I simply couldn’t follow what was happening. I won’t be going back for that particular experience anytime soon. It’s fine and wonderful to say that the “active participation” of the congregation in TLM is in prayer, but when you don’t know what is happening, that’s a bit problematic. Kneeling at the pew and watching the priest move from side to side and hearing a lot of mumbling isn’t a great prayer, IMHO.
The next closest TLM is two hours away. I doubt that I’ll drive four hours and risk the same experience.
I find the OF Mass at our cathedral parish very holy. Our Fransciscans say Mass by the book (no ad-libs), the music is sacred (no guitars, no drums), the priests sing or chant many of the prayers, and many of those in Latin (Agnus Dei, Sanctus). Plus, these guys are terrific homilists. Am I lucky or what?BTW, I left a less orthodox parish, rife with abuses, for this one.
Short answer.… I don’t know why that is so rarely presented as an option, when you can do it in Latin, ad orientam, with propers, etc.