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Socrates92
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Hahaha, well put.
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Theo2
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Bars used to be men only. I heard it said when women were allowed
the moral atmosphere of the bar declined. Before someone attacks, it is the
responsibility of both sexes to behave. And, as St, JPII taught, “It is the duty
of every man to uphold the dignity of every women.”
the moral atmosphere of the bar declined. Before someone attacks, it is the
responsibility of both sexes to behave. And, as St, JPII taught, “It is the duty
of every man to uphold the dignity of every women.”
Tis_Bearself
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Oh okay. Anyway…I agree that bars are fun to meet up with friends you already know/ met somewhere else, and also fun to see a band in, but not a good place to meet any new people.
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SacredHeartBassist
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Never heard that. Source?
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SacredHeartBassist
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I’ve met new people at bars. Just wouldn’t be ok meeting potential dates.
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Theo2
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Probable from the Theology of the Body talks.
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SacredHeartBassist
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I meant the whole women aren’t allowed thing
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Theo2
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Back in the 1950 when I was a kid, a lot of people said that.
Tis_Bearself
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This might help.
http://www.city-data.com/forum/history/2336442-there-ever-period-u-s-when.html
Basically, the lower class bars were not places where any sort of decent woman would go alone - unless it was some emergency situation where a woman went barging in there to drag her man out of the bar because their kid had just been hit by a truck or something. You were likely putting yourself in danger of rape by being there without an escort.
The higher class bars would often eject unescorted women because they didn’t want prostitutes working in their establishment. The “Mayflower Madam” in her book back in the 80s talked about an experience she had when she was out with a female friend in her pre-Madam days and they went for a drink together at some New York hotel after seeing a show, and even though they looked very nice and professional they were asked to leave the hotel bar because they were unescorted.
This manner of thinking was on its way out by the 70s when “singles bars” got popular.
If you read “Looking for Mr. Goodbar”, the idea of a “nice girl” hanging out in a bar alone in the 70s is still considered kind of a novelty or an odd thing or something women generally don’t do, because the implication is she’s going to pick up a man to go home with, which in fact the protagonist is doing despite having an outwardly respectable life.
http://www.city-data.com/forum/history/2336442-there-ever-period-u-s-when.html
Basically, the lower class bars were not places where any sort of decent woman would go alone - unless it was some emergency situation where a woman went barging in there to drag her man out of the bar because their kid had just been hit by a truck or something. You were likely putting yourself in danger of rape by being there without an escort.
The higher class bars would often eject unescorted women because they didn’t want prostitutes working in their establishment. The “Mayflower Madam” in her book back in the 80s talked about an experience she had when she was out with a female friend in her pre-Madam days and they went for a drink together at some New York hotel after seeing a show, and even though they looked very nice and professional they were asked to leave the hotel bar because they were unescorted.
This manner of thinking was on its way out by the 70s when “singles bars” got popular.
If you read “Looking for Mr. Goodbar”, the idea of a “nice girl” hanging out in a bar alone in the 70s is still considered kind of a novelty or an odd thing or something women generally don’t do, because the implication is she’s going to pick up a man to go home with, which in fact the protagonist is doing despite having an outwardly respectable life.
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Le_Cracquere
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Not really. Without exception, everyone else at the bars I’ve been to are already accompanied.
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redbetta
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No. I am an introvert.
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SacredHeartBassist
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Sad.
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SacredHeartBassist
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Good to know
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redbetta
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Says you.
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twf
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I’m guessing you’re not familiar with the concept of the neighbourhood pub?
Or do you exclude neighbourhood pubs from the “bar” umbrella?
When I was a university student, the Catholic group would hold Theology on Tap sessions at pubs. Chesterton, I think, called the sharing of pints among kindered Catholic spirits a sacramental experience.
To the OP, no I never went to “bars” to meet women when I was single. I’m a pub guy, and pubs are a place where I can share pints and conversation with other guys.
Or do you exclude neighbourhood pubs from the “bar” umbrella?
When I was a university student, the Catholic group would hold Theology on Tap sessions at pubs. Chesterton, I think, called the sharing of pints among kindered Catholic spirits a sacramental experience.
To the OP, no I never went to “bars” to meet women when I was single. I’m a pub guy, and pubs are a place where I can share pints and conversation with other guys.
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SeriousQuestion
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Introverts have an advantage in the clostered and meditative life.
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SacredHeartBassist
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How would you describe the difference
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EvangelistVictor
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Bars??? Bad idea in today’s hook up only culture. Don’t want to get caught up risking a mortal sin there. One bad night can lead to a lifetime of trouble.
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Tis_Bearself
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The “pub” in UK tends to be a gathering place for locals. Pubs are frequented by local people who usually live within walking distance and are going to be in there several evenings a week to hang out with their friends and neighbors and chat. People tend to go to the same one, or maybe the same one or two, on a regular basis, sometimes for years. A lot of them also serve food so you can spend a couple hours there drinking and eating. In US, the closest equivalent is the “old man’s bar” where retirees will be sitting in there passing the time, or maybe some of the off-the-beaten-path locals-only establishments where you kinda have to know someone and know where the bar is to even find it. Outsiders or anybody who’s disruptive of the atmosphere are generally not welcome.
The “bar” in USA is usually designed to draw a crowd of different people, many of whom will drive there for a specific reason (craft beer, a special event night, a band playing etc.) and be more interested in meeting and mingling with new people and/or getting drunk and/or dancing or grooving to the band, than with sitting around chatting to a friend for 3 hours over a pint. In USA, people who want to have long conversations will more likely go to a coffee house or a diner. Bars are often loud so you can’t really talk in there anyway. People will stay for a while, drink, dance whatever then go someplace else. The food selection is usually lacking unless it’s a “gastropub” in which case it’s more like a restaurant, it’s probably expensive, and you’re kind of expected to eat and get out and not take up a table for 3 hours discussing philosophy. It’s USA, everybody is in a rush, there isn’t much loyalty to a particular bar. If a better one opens up a mile away, everybody will drive there. It’s also not part of the fabric of daily life for most US people nowadays. If you’re sitting around a bar several nights out of the week and you’re not retired or a disabled veteran or something, people tend to think there is something wrong with you or you have an alcohol problem. In the UK it would be regarded as more normal.
The “bar” in USA is usually designed to draw a crowd of different people, many of whom will drive there for a specific reason (craft beer, a special event night, a band playing etc.) and be more interested in meeting and mingling with new people and/or getting drunk and/or dancing or grooving to the band, than with sitting around chatting to a friend for 3 hours over a pint. In USA, people who want to have long conversations will more likely go to a coffee house or a diner. Bars are often loud so you can’t really talk in there anyway. People will stay for a while, drink, dance whatever then go someplace else. The food selection is usually lacking unless it’s a “gastropub” in which case it’s more like a restaurant, it’s probably expensive, and you’re kind of expected to eat and get out and not take up a table for 3 hours discussing philosophy. It’s USA, everybody is in a rush, there isn’t much loyalty to a particular bar. If a better one opens up a mile away, everybody will drive there. It’s also not part of the fabric of daily life for most US people nowadays. If you’re sitting around a bar several nights out of the week and you’re not retired or a disabled veteran or something, people tend to think there is something wrong with you or you have an alcohol problem. In the UK it would be regarded as more normal.
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