How many of you Traditionalists

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jabelltulsa said:
You seem like a really nice person. I don’t think you meant to be judgmental, but just know that I took it that way at first read.

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I have no doubt that many a traditionalist are fine, upstanding Catholics. What I was referring to, was a “core” of tradtionalist posters here…who seem to have every nook and cranny of Catholicism covered completely when debating on CAF.

I was wondering how many of those shared their vast knowledge with our up and coming Catholics.

Many have shared their experiences, which is wonderful and inspiring. But few of those “core” posters I was looking for were among them.
 
Brother_John said:
I have no doubt that many a traditionalist are fine, upstanding Catholics. What I was referring to, was a “core” of tradtionalist posters here…who seem to have every nook and cranny of Catholicism covered completely when debating on CAF.

I was wondering how many of those shared their vast knowledge with our up and coming Catholics.

Many have shared their experiences, which is wonderful and inspiring. But few of those “core” posters I was looking for were among them.
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Then maybe you should name who those “core” posters are so they can make sure they can gain your approval and measure up to your standards.
 
Brennan_Doherty said:
Then maybe you should name who those “core” posters are so that they can make sure they can somehow gain your approval and measure up to your standards.
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Whatever. “Approval” is irrelevant. Sharing all that knowledge with those who really need it, is far more important than clubbing each other over the head with it here. :rolleyes:
 
Brother John:
…teach CCD, Adult Faith Formation, or any other classes in your parish? With the seeming wealth of information bantered about on some of these threads, it seems that many here could share much about our faith with others?
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I taught 6th grade PSR at my old parish. Loved it. It is probably one of the things that “led me to tradition” in a sense, because after seeing the weak textbooks they were currently using, my father suggested the ol’ Baltimore Catechism - and with the priest’s entusiastic blessing - I used it instead, and fell in love with the straighforward “meat and potatoes” presentation of the faith.

Between the end of that year and the start of the next one, I took a job with wacky unpredictable hours and couldn’t teach. Since then I have moved to a new diocese and commute to a traditional ICKSP Oratory about a 35 minutes away in yet another diocese - and the work schedule is once again unpredictable. In short, the opportunity has not arrived to formally teach again, but I’m praying for it and look forward to it when the Lord opens that door.
Brother John:
…Yet, as this particular thread shows…most of them “talk the talk”, but don’t “walk the walk”.
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C’mon - there is more than one way to walk the walk - and sometimes it may just involve talking. We do what we can - and some of us simply don’t have the opportunity. Also, from what I’ve heard, some parishes may not even be welcome a traditional presentation of the faith.

Why the animostity? Geesh.

Peace in Christ,

DustinsDad
 
Brother_John said:
… But realistically, you hand one of them to every 7th and 8th grader in your CCD class and most of them will wind up in dresser drawers, trash cans, or as door stops…Standing in front of class bludgeoning the kids with the BC, verbatim, is no longer productive.
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Not my experience at all - I taught 6th graders in the science lab, and we’d push the tables together and sit around it “knights of the roundtable style” and have a discussion about the week’s lesson that they were to have read during the previous week. These 6th graders would had alot of questions and things to discuss. They were starving for some rock solid answers - for the meat and potatoes - for the reason to be and to remain Catholic.

Sidenote: The lady who was the hall monitor took to pulling her chair in the hall to right outside our door…and commented that she did that so she could hear our discussions…that she hadn’t heard the faith presented so clearly and consisely for years. And it wasn’t me - it was the ol’ BC.

Now we usally had to fight the clock and wrap up the discussion session lest we run out of time before the end of the class baseball game. What’s that?

That’s were the boys would vs. the girls in *catechism baseball. *I’d “pitch” a question from the lesson. If the hitter got it right they’d get on base, if they got it wrong and they were out. And we’d keep score. It was fun - and it wasn’t just coloring pictures. I hope and pray some good seeds were planted in the midst of all the racket and the cheering and the laughing.

Each kid was allowed to keep the BC after the year. I hope they aren’t gathering dust. I have a feeling some are and some aren’t. but even the ones that are might just get picked up again when the trials and questions and challenges to their faith pop up again.

Peace in Christ,

DustinsDad
 
Brother_John said:
But as lay teachers, we aren’t perfect, or even close. As such I believe that our challenge is to present the faith to them in a way that challenges them to look and seek on their own.

But, I’ll have plenty of good quotes from CAF to work with 😃
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Well aren’t we being rather snarky?

Books are tools. Teachers are teachers. Books are not teachers.

Give a good tool to a bad teacher and they will still teach badly.

Perhaps what we need are good tools as well as good teachers. The number one teachers are parents.
 
Unitas said:
Well aren’t we being rather snarky?
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In what way am I being snarky?

In spite of all the petty bickering on this forum, there are, from time to time, great pearls of wisdom to be found here.

You just gotta bob and weave through all the bickering. 👍
 
palmas85 said:
What exactly do you mean?
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Exactly? Well I don’t know if I can effectively convey the comparison between being discriminated against for being gay. You know having a congregation, your family, society, and (due to ignorance) God, condemn your existence and fundamental hormonal desire for love and companionship. Even reducing it to merely a “cross that needs to be beared”, or at the very least, a tendency to be dealt with. You know …that!

I am , without a doubt, positively certain that your feeling of being the outsider at your school/ parish is definately no comparison! You must feel…denied? If so, you poor poor thing you!
 
truagape said:
Exactly? Well I don’t know if I can effectively convey the comparison between being discriminated against for being gay. You know having a congregation, your family, society, and (due to ignorance) God, condemn your existence and fundamental hormonal desire for love and companionship. Even reducing it to merely a “cross that needs to be beared”, or at the very least, a tendency to be dealt with. You know …that!

I am , without a doubt, positively certain that your feeling of being the outsider at your school/ parish is definately no comparison! You must feel…denied? If so, you poor poor thing you!
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Looks like you’ve got alot of anger and hatred to deal with, in addition to the disorder of same sex attraction. You have my prayers. Visit couragerc.net/, they may be able to help…but you’ve got to want help in the first place. Maybe that’s why you are here?

Peace in Christ,

DustinsDad
 
DustinsDad said:
Looks like you’ve got alot of anger and hatred to deal with, in addition to the disorder of same sex attraction. You have my prayers. Visit couragerc.net/, they may be able to help…but you’ve got to want help in the first place. Maybe that’s why you are here?

Peace in Christ,

DustinsDad
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Then again, maybe not.
Disorder? "Sticks and stones…
 
truagape said:
Then again, maybe not.
Disorder? "Sticks and stones…
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Yes, disordered. It does not always have precisely the same meaning you think. It does not mean a disease.

It means it is not ordered towards Christ in the same way the relationship between man and woman is in the sacrament of Marriage. Even without that sacrament, those relationships are sinful.

Careful when you take umbrage.
 
truagape said:
Wonder why one might think that it is. Any guesses?
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Stop being prissy. You’re putting words in people’s mouth.

People (erroneously) equated “disorder” with “disease” long before HIV/AIDS. You’re making an unfair comment.
 
markadm said:
Stop being prissy. You’re putting words in people’s mouth.

People (erroneously) equated “disorder” with “disease” long before HIV/AIDS. You’re making an unfair comment.
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UNFAIR? Don’t even!
 
markadm said:
Stop being prissy. You’re putting words in people’s mouth.

People (erroneously) equated “disorder” with “disease” long before HIV/AIDS. You’re making an unfair comment.
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And for the record, I was talking about a time frame long before the period of AIDS.
 
Another good source of help for people for SSA is NARTH:

narth.com/

I’ve heard Dr. Joseph Nicolosi speak on Catholic Answers radio. He makes a lot of sense.
 
Brennan_Doherty said:
Another good source of help for people for SSA is NARTH:

narth.com/

I’ve heard Dr. Joseph Nicolosi speak on Catholic Answers radio. He makes a lot of sense.
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I would reccomend starting with scripture, God’s word first. Letting the power of Truth set one free as Jesus prescribed. But to each his own!
 
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