How many Protestant apologetic books have you read?

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I’ve read many protestant writings and found them lacking - so much so that I found them difficult to finish. They are mostly simply uneducated about the fullness of truth. Protestantism just doesn’t complete the cirlce. Furthermore, I am convinced that most protestants are not educated correctly - in the interest of perpetuating protestantism. I’m sorry if that sounds harsh, but I believe that even the protestant seminaries pick and choose what is taught so as to steer clear of the Truth. Or at least originally they did, and now their curriculum is full of holes and present day faculty and students don’t even realize it.

Barb, I don’t know what specifically lead you away from the Truth, but I do know that you have only begun your journey. Keep searching, friend, and keep asking questions.

"To be steeped in history is to cease to be protestant"
 
How about these…

A Woman Rides the Beast The Roman Catholic Church and the Last Days
Dave Hunt

Roman Catholicism
Rick Jones

End Times
Chuck Smith
(which incidently predicts the end of the world to happen in 1981)
I guess I missed the rapture…

I also listened to many shows of To Every Man an Answer
Calvary Chapel’s radio answer show.

I still listen to Protestant radio and interact with them everyday, which has led me to Catholicism.

But since these Protestant organizations are all based on the Bible but have different views, which one Protestant point of view is right since they are competing views.

I have never seen a “don’t think, don’t question belief” in Catholicism, but I see this portrayed by ex-Catholics often.

In Catholicism there is a freedom of bickering over interpretations and a unity of belief which allows you to not just have a basic understanding but a fuller understanding of the faith.

Feel free to read Catholic material as understanding other beliefs allows you to interact with them respectably.
I recommend reading
Catholicism and Fundamentalism :Karl Keating
Not By Scripture Alone : Robert Sungenis
The Faith of the Early Church Fathers: William A. Jurgen

God Bless
Scylla
 
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BarbaraG:
I was once a Catholic and watched EWTN and listened to their apologists defending Catholic dogma. As a child, I believed whatever the nuns told me. The motto was in effect: “don’t think, don’t question, believe and obey.” Well, listening to the Catholic apologists on EWTN got me to thinking (in my 50’s) and their explanations didn’t always sit well with me. The basis for the Marian dogmas appeared to be very weak and yes, I’ve heard every Catholic defense of these beliefs.
So, on my own, I started to investigate the genesis of Catholic beliefs and read BOTH Catholic and Protestant apologists, along with the Bible and the Fathers. I left the Catholic Church, well into my middle age, after being convinced that the Protestants have it right, although it was really the grace of God that led me out of the Catholic church.
Now my question to current Catholics is: have you read books by Protestant apolgists? If you only read books or hear from Catholic apologists and their interpretation on Protestant beliefs you don’t get the complete picture. Sure, you can say that Protestants also are biased, but only after hearing BOTH sides of the issue, can you really make a decision. Too many of you just believe what the priests, nuns, and Catholic apologists tell you. Step up to the plate and study BOTH sides.
Please don’t respond to this post by saying that you’ll pray that I return to the church. I also don’t want to argue points of dogma. What I want from the Catholics is for you to list every Protestant apologetic book that you’ve read. And if you haven’t, how do you know if you have the real picture of their beliefs. Would you think that a non-Catholic would have a true picture of your Church without ever reading Catholic literature?
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Barbara, I was once a Protestant. Three years ago, I never would have thought I would become Catholic. I was looking for the true church–actually, I was looking for the truest church since as a Protestant I didn’t believe there was one true church, though I wished there were. But, as our Lord promised, “Seek and you shall find. Knock, and the door shall be opened to you.” Somewhere along the way, I happened upon some Catholic apologetical material. Though still firmly convinced that Catholicism was in error, questions like “Where in the Bible does it teach sola scriptura? How do we know which books belong in the Bible?” plagued me. Many other Protestant teachings bothered me, but the biggest was the lack of any kind of authority. “Sola Scriptura” allows every man to interpret scripture for himself and, as you can see,results in a kind if spiritual anarchy. It is the biggest of Protestantism’s many weaknesses. This kind of anarchy was occurring even in the earliest days of the “Reformation” and horrified Luther, who couldn’t understand why other reformers who interpreted the word of God on their own did not agree with his interpretation.
EWTN began to be broadcast in my area and this was instrumental in my conversion. I learned almost everything I know about Catholicism by watching EWTN and I am eternally indebted to Mother Angelica and all the people at EWTN.
I began to feel as if I was being pulled towards the Catholic Church; meanwhile, I tried to resist it as much as I could. I didn’t want the Catholic Church to be true, because I knew if it was then I would have to become Catholic. I tried to find anything I could that would convince me that Catholicism was wrong and Protestantism was right; but every Protestant apologist failed to answer any questions to my satisfaction. Most wasted their time “fighting straw men” (arguing against something which Catholics don’t really believe in in the first place). I couldn’t help noticing too that whenever I read a “testimony” of an ex-Catholic who finally saw the light of Protestantism and accepted Jesus as their personal Savior, etc., it was always someone who wasn’t exactly a devout Catholic to begin with–certainly none of them were Catholics who were knowledgable about their faith, and many had not converted directly from Catholicism to Protestantism but had been Catholic, then atheist, then Protestant or something like that. On the other hand, the stories of Protestants who became Catholic show people who were already very committed to Jesus and the truth and that commitment led them finally into the only church which has the fullness of truth. As I began to realize that the Catholic Church’s claims could not be refuted, and that Protestant system could not be supported by anything other than a mere man’s interpretation, I was also beginning to fall in love with all the richness and beauty of the Catholic faith. After a while, I knew in my heart that I would probably become a Catholic eventually and finally I was so convinced of the Catholic faith, and so enraptured with everything about it, that I decided to become a Catholic, which I am now, thanks be to God!
In my opinion, anyone who is willing to let go of their biases and obey the truth and who objectively weighs both sides will discover that the Protestant apologists are utterly unconvincing.
 
Anima Christi:
Barbara, I was once a Protestant. Three years ago, I never would have thought I would become Catholic. I was looking for the true church–actually, I was looking for the truest church since as a Protestant I didn’t believe there was one true church, though I wished there were. But, as our Lord promised, “Seek and you shall find. Knock, and the door shall be opened to you…”
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Beautiful, concise, and eloquent conversion story. Thank you for sharing that!
 
I don’t own any Protestant apologist books because I’ve heard the arguments. I was raised a fundie Southern Baptist, spent 5 years as an Episcopalian, attended Baylor University (Sic 'em, Bears, the Buckle on the Bible Belt!), and I’ve heard all the arguments. I tried to maintain them myself for a time (I can remembering praying in youth group that Catholics would be saved!). The arguments can’t be maintained in logic OR in biblical or historical scholarship. I don’t need to crowd my shelves with the likes of James White, though I do like a good read in Oswald Chambers now and again and I have a pronounced affection for dear old Dr. Graham, God bless him!
 
There is NO SUCH THING as a protestant apologetical writing. Which *flavor *of protestant? Lutheran? Calvinist? Pentacostal?

Be specific!
 
Well, I guess I’m gonna get mentioned on Rev White’s blog again for interacting with some of his people. :rotfl: :rotfl:

I don’t have to read n-C apologetics books though I do look in on some of the various sites and read the same ole same ole. I’m currently on a couple of n-C forums (against my better judgement). As I’ve said before I spent over 34 years as a devout whatever I was at the time, and am well familiar with the whys and wherefores of what they believe as opposed to what we Catholics really do believe.

I’m not some lame pew warmer…never have been. I’m one of those guys who will stand toe to toe with most anyone and lay out a gospel witness on them in a heartbeat. I still do, just as a Catholic now. I have read the Bible through many times and taken courses and read books and anything else that I can do to know what others believe and I know why I believe what I believe. I went to Catholic schools for 12 years but didn’t pay the least attention at Mass or in religion classes, so that by age 17 when I left the church I didn’t know beans about the faith that I was leaving.

When a guy alleged that we worshipped Mary I stepped up because I knew that was wrong and got put down for it, so I went looking into Catholic teachings on the issue and discovered that I was right and that Catholics do not worship the Blessed Virgin. When I took my evidence back to the guy…he wouldn’t even discuss it. I continued to dig and discovered that what the Catholic Church teaches really is the New Testament Christianity. I know the non-Catholic teachings about backward and forward and there’s nothing in them that interests me in the least.

The one thing that I will not do is let some n-C, no matter how “well intentioned” make inaccurate allegations and statements about our most holy faith without answering with the truth.

For some reason, many n-Cs seem to think that we don’t know what they’re gonna say or that we won’t have an answer. That’s ridiculous because the Catholic Church has been answering heresies for 2,000 years and answering the same old “protestant”, “reformation”, “evengelical”, “whatever-you-wanna-call-yourselves”, for the last 500 years as well.

I have no problem with anyone believing whatever they please and disagreeing with us, that’s between them and the Holy Spirit, but when they persist in alleging the same bunk that we’ve answered a zillion times I have to wonder.

I know that “witnessing” and “soul winning” is almost the litmus test of most n-Cs commitment to Our Lord, but when I tell ya what we believe, have the good grace to give me the same courtesy of the Holy Spirit that I attempt to do you and take it at face value and go bother a Jehovah’s Witness, Shepherd’s Chapel, or some nonbeliever and let me and my brother and sister Catholics get on with being about Our Father’s business. I know that less informed Catholics are targeted for evangelism away from the faith and I frankly resent that bigtime in the same way you n-Cs would feel if we did the same to you.

I don’t go out looking for “victims” for my apologetics abilities (such as they are) and that’s why I would never bother to call in a radio show. It’s not even a level playing field and so it’s a waste of time. (They have control of what is heard and can cut me off or offer their own spin and I won’t be able to, so why bother?) If you wanna know what Catholics believe, come ask us. We’re not antichrist/whore of babylon and we have nothing to hide.

So Barbara & Kaycee, if you left and you’re happy have a nice day and all, but don’t think for a second that when you make an erroneous allegation or statement about the Catholic Church, that the knowlegeable Catholics on here are gonna sit around and let it go unchallenged. That’s just not gonna happen.
Pax vobiscum, 👋
 
Church Militant:
So Barbara & Kaycee, if you left and you’re happy have a nice day and all, but don’t think for a second that when you make an erroneous allegation or statement about the Catholic Church, that the knowlegeable Catholics on here are gonna sit around and let it go unchallenged. That’s just not gonna happen.
Pax vobiscum, 👋
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:amen:

I get the feeling that as the original poster referred to themselves as merely a protestant, they dont really know what they are. Too many to pick from i suppose.

Doesnt the fact that there are so many denominations alone, show that catholicism is right!!
 
JKirk << I don’t need to crowd my shelves with the likes of James White >>

Oh man you don’t know what you’re missing! 😃 What sola scriptura is, what sola scriptura isn’t…Catholic apologists have no idea what sola scriptura really is…

Jesus and his apostles didn’t practice sola scriptura since this was during times of enscripturation, and therefore sola scriptura became true sometime in the late 2nd century when the Fathers, Bishops and Saints of the Church (who were absolutely not Roman Catholic or Eastern Orthodox) completely forgot everything the apostles taught except what they left in their writings…

The “development of doctrine” is a sham since Augustine was clearly Baptist, John Chrysostom was definitely Presbyterian, Jerome was no doubt Assemblies of God. All kinds of good stuff. :rolleyes:

And oh yeah, the Jews didn’t know Isaiah and 2nd Chronicles were Scripture since the Roman Catholic Church didn’t exist until about Pope Gregory the Great, Thomas Aquinas, or maybe later.

I can have “sufficient knowledge” that Scripture is inspired and you can’t have “sufficient knowledge” that the Church is infallible. Or variation on a theme: “you can’t know infallibly the Church is infallible.”

Ok, I’m exaggerating, its a little more sophisticated than that. But only a little. 😛 There I just summed up all of White’s books and debates the past 15 years.

Phil P
 
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BarbaraG:
I was once a Catholic and watched EWTN and listened to their apologists defending Catholic dogma. As a child, I believed whatever the nuns told me. The motto was in effect: “don’t think, don’t question, believe and obey.” Well, listening to the Catholic apologists on EWTN got me to thinking (in my 50’s) and their explanations didn’t always sit well with me. The basis for the Marian dogmas appeared to be very weak and yes, I’ve heard every Catholic defense of these beliefs.
So, on my own, I started to investigate the genesis of Catholic beliefs and read BOTH Catholic and Protestant apologists, along with the Bible and the Fathers. I left the Catholic Church, well into my middle age, after being convinced that the Protestants have it right, although it was really the grace of God that led me out of the Catholic church.
Now my question to current Catholics is: have you read books by Protestant apolgists? If you only read books or hear from Catholic apologists and their interpretation on Protestant beliefs you don’t get the complete picture. Sure, you can say that Protestants also are biased, but only after hearing BOTH sides of the issue, can you really make a decision. Too many of you just believe what the priests, nuns, and Catholic apologists tell you. Step up to the plate and study BOTH sides.
Please don’t respond to this post by saying that you’ll pray that I return to the church. I also don’t want to argue points of dogma. What I want from the Catholics is for you to list every Protestant apologetic book that you’ve read. And if you haven’t, how do you know if you have the real picture of their beliefs. Would you think that a non-Catholic would have a true picture of your Church without ever reading Catholic literature?
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Since you are a Christian, I ask you: how do you know Christianity is right, UNLESS you have read many or most of the non-Christian religion’s explanations of their faith?
Have you?

Further, every day, do you read up on the newest beliefs which have been put forth in the last 24 hours? If not, how do you know you are still right?

It’s actually a simple process, weeding out all the chaff–identify what fundamental characteristic makes your faith different, and, you believe, true. Then, allow any protest or argument against that aspect to be put forth. If you find the argument flawed, *you need look no further. * It is neither practical nor smart to investigate every argument about the thousands of faiths which exist, in order to validate your own.

Example: The question of whether Christ left us a teaching Church, identifiable and visible through the head who succeeds Peter, is the place where we part ways with Protestants. Unless or until that issue is successful disputed, we have no need to listen to the other protests. They are a muddled distraction, if the initial belief that the Church defines the true faith has not been overcome.

And is there any argument we (most of us here) haven’t already heard a hundred times over, regarding the validity of the Magisterium, and found unconvincing?
Is there some argument in all these hundreds of books that we haven’t heard, which will convince us that the Church of the early Fathers really wasn’t right, thus opening the door to all the other protests?

Not likely. And so, we have better things to do. Like following Christ.

Peace.
John
 
Oh, and to be consistent, I’d like you to list the apologetics books on Islam which you have scrutinized and discarded, as a way of being sure your Christianity is true.

Then the apologetics books on Judaism.

Then Buddhism.

Then New Ageism.

And so on.

For if you haven’t done this, and don’t continue to do it daily, you cannot be sure of your faith.

Peace.
John
 
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BarbaraG:
I was once a Catholic and watched EWTN and listened to their apologists defending Catholic dogma. As a child, I believed whatever the nuns told me. The motto was in effect: “don’t think, don’t question, believe and obey.” Well, listening to the Catholic apologists on EWTN got me to thinking (in my 50’s) and their explanations didn’t always sit well with me. The basis for the Marian dogmas appeared to be very weak and yes, I’ve heard every Catholic defense of these beliefs.
So, on my own, I started to investigate the genesis of Catholic beliefs and read BOTH Catholic and Protestant apologists, along with the Bible and the Fathers. I left the Catholic Church, well into my middle age, after being convinced that the Protestants have it right, although it was really the grace of God that led me out of the Catholic church.
Now my question to current Catholics is: have you read books by Protestant apolgists? If you only read books or hear from Catholic apologists and their interpretation on Protestant beliefs you don’t get the complete picture. Sure, you can say that Protestants also are biased, but only after hearing BOTH sides of the issue, can you really make a decision. Too many of you just believe what the priests, nuns, and Catholic apologists tell you. Step up to the plate and study BOTH sides.
Please don’t respond to this post by saying that you’ll pray that I return to the church. I also don’t want to argue points of dogma. What I want from the Catholics is for you to list every Protestant apologetic book that you’ve read. And if you haven’t, how do you know if you have the real picture of their beliefs. Would you think that a non-Catholic would have a true picture of your Church without ever reading Catholic literature?
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Hi, Barbara. You don’t want prayers. You don’t want to discuss theology. Why should anyone dance only to your tune? Christ Himself criticizes this. Matthew 11:17, Luke 7:32.

I, personally, Ms. Flute Player, have read several Protestant pieces – I love the Anchor series, where they regular and nastily criticize Catholic doctrine, and I like to see how they justify their criticisms with the Bible. I’ve also attended maybe twenty Protestant church services – about half of the time the minister compares the doctrines of their congregation with those of the Catholic Church. I’ve also discussed Bible with a Methodist minister friend for about ten years. And I’ve listened to Protestant radio for about 20 years.

Despite all of this testing of myself, I can assure you that I am still deeply in love with Catholic theology. The Church has it all figured out. Protestant theology CLEARELY twists the Bible.

I think that you are afraid of discussion, because YOU don’t know your Bible, and you are afraid that you might learn that you are wrong.

So, keep playing your tune, ex-Catholic. You really are mistaken.
 
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BarbaraG:
I was once a Catholic and watched EWTN and listened to their apologists defending Catholic dogma. As a child, I believed whatever the nuns told me. The motto was in effect: “don’t think, don’t question, believe and obey.” Well, listening to the Catholic apologists on EWTN got me to thinking (in my 50’s) and their explanations didn’t always sit well with me. The basis for the Marian dogmas appeared to be very weak and yes, I’ve heard every Catholic defense of these beliefs.
So, on my own, I started to investigate the genesis of Catholic beliefs and read BOTH Catholic and Protestant apologists, along with the Bible and the Fathers. I left the Catholic Church, well into my middle age, after being convinced that the Protestants have it right, although it was really the grace of God that led me out of the Catholic church.
Now my question to current Catholics is: have you read books by Protestant apolgists? If you only read books or hear from Catholic apologists and their interpretation on Protestant beliefs you don’t get the complete picture. Sure, you can say that Protestants also are biased, but only after hearing BOTH sides of the issue, can you really make a decision. Too many of you just believe what the priests, nuns, and Catholic apologists tell you. Step up to the plate and study BOTH sides.
Please don’t respond to this post by saying that you’ll pray that I return to the church. I also don’t want to argue points of dogma. What I want from the Catholics is for you to list every Protestant apologetic book that you’ve read. And if you haven’t, how do you know if you have the real picture of their beliefs. Would you think that a non-Catholic would have a true picture of your Church without ever reading Catholic literature?
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I will pray for you that you will see the truth and God will bring you back into the Church.
 
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BarbaraG:
What I want from the Catholics is for you to list every Protestant apologetic book that you’ve read. And if you haven’t, how do you know if you have the real picture of their beliefs. Would you think that a non-Catholic would have a true picture of your Church without ever reading Catholic literature?
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I’m pretty picky about the books I read, since I have so little time these days. I confess that I’ve reached a point in my life where I’m less interested in discovering new viewpoints than I am in deepening my knowledge and understanding of those things that I already apprehend to be true.

(This reminds me of the famous G.K. Chesterton quote, “The object of opening the mind, as of opening the mouth, is to shut it again on something solid.”)

I do, however, listen to a lot of Christian (protestant) radio. My favorites are R.C. Sproul, Hank Hanegraaff, and Alistair Begg. I also enjoy listening to James Dobson, but he doesn’t dig into the theology like the other guys.

95% of the time (or more) these people are preaching for the already converted which, I think, gives a truer picture of their core beliefs than the various anti-Catholic books or spokesmen that others have listed.

–Bill
 
Although I grew up catholic, there was always protestant materials around our house.
My father is a “seeker” - he enjoys learning of other viewpoints, and most of his friends are protestant (evangelical)
So I grew up reading a bit of everything.
Strangely enough…I didn’t read much traditional catholic teaching.

When it came time for me to decide on my own in adulthood, I began reading catholic apologetics (Scott Hahn, Stephen K. Ray, David Currie, Patrick Madrid)
This was truly a gift from God.

I strongly believe the Holy Spirit guided me right back to the Catholic Church, and I am very much at peace about this.
 
Why in the world would I WANT to do that? The only reason would be to learn how protestants go about creating an agrument against the true and full faith. But I’m not an apologist, so I don’t really want to know these things.

If I want to learn more about Jesus, what he taught and how the faithful practice their faith then I look to the Church where the truth has been protected for the last 2000 years. If I want to deepen my spiritual life then I look again to the Church. She can show me how to do this while keeping Christ at the center of my world.

I used to listen John Hagee on TV on Sunday mornings because I liked the way he didn’t sugar coat anything! But then, he began comparing the Catholic Church to paganism and to listen to him talk about the Old Testament theology like it came from the protestants - well it upset me. He would talk around the fact that the Church existed at that time - like we went straight from the Jews to Protesantism with no credit to the Catholic Church for any of the theology that he was now able to spew! I finally just tuned him out! He just totally missed the point!

Personally, I find protestant theology to be lacking in what I have read and heard. I find their agruments and explanations tiresome. They only scratch the surface of the truth. There is no richness about it, there is no meat.

When I have attended Baptist services with my husband, I didn’t really feel as though I had been worshipping. I just feel as though I went to a bible class which I can get anytime and even do it on my own. It didn’t seem like it was anything special.

Protestants are truly missing out on the full truth of what Jesus taught. They dance around it and ignore it or pretend like it doesn’t exist.

Sorry, I don’t mean to hurt anyone’s feelings but that’s my observation. Why would I intentionally read something that does not encomapss the whole truth - if that’s what I’m truly looking for?
 
Barbara, first and foremost, let me welcome you to the forum. I sincerely hope you make discussing your faith a regular part of your day. On first reading your post I got the feeling you experienced the very first level of learning the Catholic faith, and never progressed further. Let me attempt to explain. The first level of learning is rote. You learn your “ABC’s” not understanding they have any particular meaning, you simply memorize them. This is the feeling I got from your post, you sound like you never progressed past the rote to an understanding and then an application of the “facts”. This is sad but not uncommon. Don’t feel alone, there are millions like you. I do however invite you to explore your Catholic past to come to an understanding of those “facts” you learned in your Catholic life. Discuss them here with us, perhaps you will find understanding and appreciation for the Church teachings. Please explore this web site, it has some wonderful resources and you may find simply discussing your thoughts will help. Again, welcome to CA forum.
 
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PhilVaz:
JKirk << I don’t need to crowd my shelves with the likes of James White >>

Oh man you don’t know what you’re missing! 😃 What sola scriptura is, what sola scriptura isn’t…Catholic apologists have no idea what sola scriptura really is…

Jesus and his apostles didn’t practice sola scriptura since this was during times of enscripturation, and therefore sola scriptura became true sometime in the late 2nd century when the Fathers, Bishops and Saints of the Church (who were absolutely not Roman Catholic or Eastern Orthodox) completely forgot everything the apostles taught except what they left in their writings…

The “development of doctrine” is a sham since Augustine was clearly Baptist, John Chrysostom was definitely Presbyterian, Jerome was no doubt Assemblies of God. All kinds of good stuff. :rolleyes:

And oh yeah, the Jews didn’t know Isaiah and 2nd Chronicles were Scripture since the Roman Catholic Church didn’t exist until about Pope Gregory the Great, Thomas Aquinas, or maybe later.

I can have “sufficient knowledge” that Scripture is inspired and you can’t have “sufficient knowledge” that the Church is infallible. Or variation on a theme: “you can’t know infallibly the Church is infallible.”

Ok, I’m exaggerating, its a little more sophisticated than that. But only a little. 😛 There I just summed up all of White’s books and debates the past 15 years.

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Umm…what?
 
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BarbaraG:
I was once a Catholic and watched EWTN and listened to their apologists defending Catholic dogma. As a child, I believed whatever the nuns told me. The motto was in effect: “don’t think, don’t question, believe and obey.” Well, listening to the Catholic apologists on EWTN got me to thinking (in my 50’s) and their explanations didn’t always sit well with me. The basis for the Marian dogmas appeared to be very weak and yes, I’ve heard every Catholic defense of these beliefs.
So, on my own, I started to investigate the genesis of Catholic beliefs and read BOTH Catholic and Protestant apologists, along with the Bible and the Fathers. I left the Catholic Church, well into my middle age, after being convinced that the Protestants have it right, although it was really the grace of God that led me out of the Catholic church.
Now my question to current Catholics is: have you read books by Protestant apolgists? If you only read books or hear from Catholic apologists and their interpretation on Protestant beliefs you don’t get the complete picture. Sure, you can say that Protestants also are biased, but only after hearing BOTH sides of the issue, can you really make a decision. Too many of you just believe what the priests, nuns, and Catholic apologists tell you. Step up to the plate and study BOTH sides.
Please don’t respond to this post by saying that you’ll pray that I return to the church. I also don’t want to argue points of dogma. What I want from the Catholics is for you to list every Protestant apologetic book that you’ve read. And if you haven’t, how do you know if you have the real picture of their beliefs. Would you think that a non-Catholic would have a true picture of your Church without ever reading Catholic literature?
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Protestantism has brought nothing but disunity and truth deficiencies. The fact that it was started in 1600 AD by one little Theologian, who was a monk, and was not very faithful, and developed a prejudice against Rome, and had no authority, no apostolic succession, and tried to undo what so many faithful Theologians and Bishops had already accomplished, shows how Protestantism is a lie. The word Protestant = Protester. Just because the local married protestant minister has more charisma and is easier to understand doesn’t mean it is the full truth.

What do you think about this:

**"1 A great sign appeared in the sky, a woman 2 clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars. **
**2 ****She was with child and wailed aloud in pain as she labored to give birth. 3 ****3 ****Then another sign appeared in the sky; it was a huge red dragon, 4 with seven heads and ten horns, and on its heads were seven diadems. ****4 ****Its tail swept away a third of the stars in the sky and hurled them down to the earth. Then the dragon stood before the woman about to give birth, to devour her child when she gave birth. ****5 **She gave birth to a son, a male child, destined to rule all the nations with an iron rod." -Rev. 12:1-5

This clearly shows the Blessed Virgin Mary as queen of Heaven. Also, remember that the Ark of the Covenant had to be dealt with care and those who touched it had to be chosen and clean. So to, the Blessed Virgin Mary was clean of the stain of sin. That is why Gabriel addressed her as "full of grace."
 
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