How Many Traditional Latin Masses/Attendees Are There?

[Legatus]

Kielbasi:

“Unavailability” is certainly the case here. Some Catholics can’t (don’t have the resources, etc…) drive 50, 60, 100, 150 miles or more to get to an [stike]
indult[/strike] insult TLM.

50 miles or even 200 miles is sufficiently close for occasionally attendance at the Latin mass, although you’re right that its a bit much for every Sunday

attendance.

But I don’t think that providing Latin masses every Sunday was the intent of the indult in the first place, but instead just a recognition of the Lat(name removed by moderator)hiles rightful aspirations.

I’m not sure how healthy it is to do that much traveling when there is an equally valid and lawful mass available at a lot shorter distance away with the other members of your community in attendance.

Here in Pittsburgh , on the other side of town from me, there is a weekly Latin mass. I would like to hear it some day, unfortunately its only on Sunday morning and I would miss in my own parish if I heard it. I’d like to see the bishop here switch the indult masses to midweek (at least occasionally) to give more of the people an opportunity.
You wouldn’t happen be one of these intransigent bishops would you? When was the last time you travelled fifty to 200 miles to assist at Sunday Mass?

You seem to feel that the indult was issued only so that people could take an occasional dip into a pool of liturgical nostalgia. Perhaps they could combine it with a trip to Disneyland. Of course, you suggest, too much of such “liturgical nostalgia” may be unhealthy (yeah! People might grow to like it We can’t have that).

You just don’t get it do you. While your Novus Ordo Mass is indeed valid and legal it has failed miserably in bringing about the great liturgical revival that it was supposed to do. The Pope himself has said it needs reform and many people just don’t find it prayerful.Try opening your mind a bit to the legitimate feelings of others of your fellow Catholics.

 

[palmas85]

Here in San Diego I would say the indult averages probably around 400 or more on any given Sunday. It has a very active youth group and a large number of young families. I would say location keeps the numbers that low as the Mass is held at a Cemetary Chapel. It is usually standing room only and I really don’t think there is much room for many more to attend. san Diego also has at least one SSPX masse and one other. I don’t know who officiates at that one or if it is a constant thing.

When I visited New Orleans there were two Masses offered, one SSPX and an indult. The SSPX was daily with two on Sundays. I guess they averaged around a couple hundred for each of the Sunday Masses. The indult was at one of the historic churches in town and it averaged, I was told, usually between 7 and 800 for a typical Sunday Mass. I couldn’t tell how many but on every time I attended the Church was full.

In Phoenix the Mass attracted well over 500 on Sundays during several weeks I spent there.

I hear from friends that it is also exceptionally well attended in Detroit, Baton Rouge, and St. Louis,

I would tend to agree with some of the others that location and availability as well as knowledge as to the availability of the mass itself is crucial. I personally have brought about twenty over to the indult who never knew it was offered here. Recently though I have seen ads for the indult in the San Diego Diocesan Newsletter, so I guess it’s wait and see.

 

[rayne89]

We have beautifully done Novus Ordo Mass. No liturgical abuses, rosary before every Mass. Confession before every Mass, latin mixed into the Mass, tradtional Catholic hymms, communion on kneelers, bells during the consecration -you get the idea. We had six young men go off to seminary last year. While I’ve heard the TLM is beautiful, I really feel I have the best of both worlds and really have no desire to attend a TLM Mass.

 

[Kielbasi]

Legatus:

Kielbasi:

“Unavailability” is certainly the case here. Some Catholics can’t (don’t have the resources, etc…) drive 50, 60, 100, 150 miles or more to get to an [stike]
indult[/strike] insult TLM.

You just don’t get it do you. While your Novus Ordo Mass is indeed valid and legal it has failed miserably in bringing about the great liturgical revival that it was supposed to do. The Pope himself has said it needs reform and many people just don’t find it prayerful.Try opening your mind a bit to the legitimate feelings of others of your fellow Catholics.

I do get it, that’s the point.

If the church were to order all masses said in Latin beginning next Sunday, that would be fine with me, really.

But if we are all one, then let’s show we’re all one. It seems to me that those who travel out of their parishes sometimes a hundred miles every week to attend a special Latin mass instead of staying within their own communities, often walk around thinking they are more Catholic or better than the average Catholic.

It reminds me of my days back in public school, some of the other kids were sectarians who also thought they were better than the Catholic kids or the Jewish kids, I told them to pound salt as well. But this is more disturbing as the lat(name removed by moderator)hiles are supposed to be Catholics the same as me.

BTW, I’d like to have the latin mass available from time to time, it is part of my heritage, unfortunately the way its scheduled, half way across town and only on Sunday morning where I’d have to miss mass in my own parish to attend, it does make it a lot less accessible to the ordinary Catholic folk.
Its just disheartening.

 

[dumspirospero]

This is what all the fuss is about…people think that just because I attend a TLM every Sunday or just because my neighbor attends the TLM every Sunday, we believe we are UberCatholics…which is just downright silly. I consider myself a horrible and unworthy Catholic…I am engaged in a daily struggle to live out my faith to the best of my ability. The TLM is my preference…but in no way does it make me a better Catholic than anyone else. I am sick and tired of this notion that every one who attends a TLM walks around with their noses held high in the air and looks down on Novus Ordo Catholics. Maybe it is you who thinks you are better than the average Catholic.

Kielbasi:

Legatus:

Kielbasi:

often walk around thinking they are more Catholic or better than the average Catholic.

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[GoLatin]

palmas85:

Here in San Diego I would say the indult averages probably around 400 or more on any given Sunday. It has a very active youth group and a large number of young families. I would say location keeps the numbers that low as the Mass is held at a Cemetary Chapel. It is usually standing room only and I really don’t think there is much room for many more to attend. san Diego also has at least one SSPX masse and one other. I don’t know who officiates at that one or if it is a constant thing.

When I visited New Orleans there were two Masses offered, one SSPX and an indult. The SSPX was daily with two on Sundays. I guess they averaged around a couple hundred for each of the Sunday Masses. The indult was at one of the historic churches in town and it averaged, I was told, usually between 7 and 800 for a typical Sunday Mass. I couldn’t tell how many but on every time I attended the Church was full.

In Phoenix the Mass attracted well over 500 on Sundays during several weeks I spent there.

I hear from friends that it is also exceptionally well attended in Detroit, Baton Rouge, and St. Louis,

I would tend to agree with some of the others that location and availability as well as knowledge as to the availability of the mass itself is crucial. I personally have brought about twenty over to the indult who never knew it was offered here. Recently though I have seen ads for the indult in the San Diego Diocesan Newsletter, so I guess it’s wait and see.

In Saint Louis this morning, at the 8:00 AM Mass at Saint Francis de Sales, there was a pretety good crowd.

 

[Quaere_Verum]

Ham1:

I see much written of the traditional Latin Mass here, but I encounter very very few people who attend such Masses despite operating in conservative Catholic circles.

Does anyone know approximately how many people attend traditional Latin Masses in the US and worldwide?

I’m curious because it seems that it is a relatively small number of people which might be why Rome seems to have no interest in any type of “universal indult.”

Thanks!

I believe there are many more who would attend a TLM but don’t for varying reasons. One reason is that so very few are available. A second reason, and one which pertains to our family, is that one spouse wishes to attend the TLM and the other doesn’t. So why make it an issue every Sunday? It’s better to maintain peace in the family in this case.

 

[Kielbasi]

dumspirospero:

This is what all the fuss is about…people think that just because I attend a TLM every Sunday or just because my neighbor attends the TLM every Sunday, we believe we are UberCatholics…which is just downright silly.

Maybe you’re right on this, but I’d just like to see y’all with the rest of the Catholic community. But can you see how it appears to others that you are setting yourself apart?

I’d also like to see Latin mass said midweek or on Sunday afternoon, where it would be more accessible to a lot more folks.

 

[JNB]

rayne89:

We have beautifully done Novus Ordo Mass. No liturgical abuses, rosary before every Mass. Confession before every Mass, latin mixed into the Mass, tradtional Catholic hymms, communion on kneelers, bells during the consecration -you get the idea. We had six young men go off to seminary last year. While I’ve heard the TLM is beautiful, I really feel I have the best of both worlds and really have no desire to attend a TLM Mass.

The sad thing is that a parish like your even even more uncommon than a TLM. To the outsider used to the way the mass is celebrated in a typical subruban parish, your parish, and I mean this in a good way, is only a couple of steps away from a TLM.

 

[Polvskoy]

Kielbasi:

Maybe you’re right on this, but I’d just like to see y’all with the rest of the Catholic community. But can you see how it appears to others that you are setting yourself apart?

I’d also like to see Latin mass said midweek or on Sunday afternoon, where it would be more accessible to a lot more folks.

Is it essential that you attend your parish’s Mass every week?

 

[Dr.Bombay]

Kielbasi:

Maybe you’re right on this, but I’d just like to see y’all with the rest of the Catholic community. But can you see how it appears to others that you are setting yourself apart?

I’d also like to see Latin mass said midweek or on Sunday afternoon, where it would be more accessible to a lot more folks.

I’d like to see you attend a TLM once a month. Your parish won’t disappear if you miss Mass there once a month.

It’s a new springtime, K. Don’t be afraid to breathe out of both lungs.

 

[Marilena]

Meeeeeeeeee!

 

[Anima_Christi]

The traditional Latin Mass is a three-minute drive from my college dorm, thank God! I go almost every Sunday. The Latin Mass community in my diocese recently got a FSSP priest to say Mass. Now the Traditional Mass is available every day–just a few months ago, it was only two Sundays a month, and often had to be cancelled due to unavailability of a priest to celebrate it. Daily mass is at 7am, and Sunday Mass is at 4pm (which I, as a college student, consider a blessing, though many would disagree). Our bishop is very supportive.
If the Traditional Mass were advertised and there was wider availability many more people would attend. Ever since we got a priest to do it every Sunday, I’ve noticed about twice as many people show up as before. I think the traditional Mass should be within an hour drive of everyone; “widely available” does not mean a day’s drive!

 

[Catholic_Heart]

<<<sometimes a hundred miles every week to attend a special Latin mass instead of staying within their own communities, often walk around thinking they are more Catholic or better than the average Catholic.>>>

It isn’t about being more Catholic or a better Catholic, or about nostalgia…It is about prefering a certain kind of Cathoic spirituality over another…And, yes, the Spritiuality of the TLM is part of our heritege…A part that some would like to pretend doesn’t exist.

The TLM doesn’t exist so you can “sample” it when the mood strikes…It’s there because it is a legitimate Latin Rite, and we have the right to it…John Paul II had a study done to see if the TLM has actually beeen done away with by VII, and found that it had not…He established the indult so that everyone who wanted to avail themselves of the “old Mass” could do so. It seems to me that the bishops have been afraid to allow frequent, convenient indult Tridentine Masses…Why they fear it, I have no idea.

I do believe that if the TLM were more readily available more would attend…and it wouldn’t be out of nostalgia, either…They want to recaputer the sense of reverence and awe that is often lacking at their regular parish Masses…

I am fortunate to belong to a parish that celebrates the Mass with reverence and grace…The congregation can be noisey and irreverent, but the priests celebrate with reverence, anyway.

I sometimes do attend a local TLM Mass, and am beginning to understand the spirituality offered there. I love my NO parish, and am very active there, but do appreciate what the TLM has to offer, and love to attend it.