How much is a full meal in fasting?

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It’s just an estimate for the average person and yeah it is just my opinion with reason.
 
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I’ve never met “the average person.” Each person is treated as an individual when it comes to fasting. For every person I know for whom 2300 calories would be too much, there is another person for whom it wouldn’t be enough.
 
Yes this rule doesn’t apply to every individual just most individuals. I think it’s safe to say that 700-1700 calories applies to most people in a fasting day. But they don’t have to be as calculating as me.
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edjlopez23 said:
I think it’s safe to say that 700-1700 calories applies to most people in a fasting day.
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Based on what?

Frankly, the only person whose fasting you should concern yourself with is you. Let others determine their own fasting requirements, as the Church does.
 
Indeed and if one needs help figuring out what to do, one should seek out one’s pastor, or better yet, have a spiritual director.
 
This discussion reminds me of the threads that start by asking how late you can get to Mass and still have it fulfill your obligation.

Get to Mass before it starts and stay until it’s over. If for some reason that is impossible, use your judgment in deciding if you fulfilled the obligation.

On a fast day, be somewhat hungry. Use your judgment in deciding exactly how much you can eat while still feeling unsatisfied.
 
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The church says fasting is one full meal and I think the two smaller meals are optional.
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The Church defines fasting as one meal a day, and two smaller meals which if added together would not exceed the main meal in quantity. This is a minimum requirement; a person may elect to omit any or all of these meals but is not obliged to do so by the Church. “Quantity” is not specifically measured by caloric content. It could be determined by other factors, such as volume or weight.
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Therefore, you should eat around 700 to 1700 calories. It’s an estimate.
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No, I should eat less food than I ordinarily would, which may or may not amount to 700-1700 calories. You should determine your own fasting parameters and leave others to determine theirs.
 
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No, I should eat less food than I ordinarily would, which may or may not amount to 700-1700 calories. You should determine your own fasting parameters and leave others to determine theirs.
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No, if your overeating everyday that’s gluttony which is a sin against God.
 
The thing is that you don’t know whether or not I am overeating, nor whether or not anyone else is. In light of this, I don’t understand how you presume to tell any of us how much we should eat when we fast.
 
Because 2000-2500 calories is a day’s worth of food. Unless your a super athlete you should not be eating more than this daily or that’s most likely gluttony.

Therefore we can presume we have to eat under 2000-2500 calories.

Then I made an educated estimate about how much one should eat.
 
edjlopez23 said:
Because 2000-2500 calories is a day’s worth of food. Unless your a super athlete you should not be eating more than this daily or that’s most likely gluttony.

Therefore we can presume we have to eat under 2000-2500 calories.

Then I made an educated estimate about how much one should eat.
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I may have grown accustomed to eating 3500 calories a day. Maybe 4000.

There may be people out there who eat 1300 a day.

Still, I think the gist of the replies here is that most of us don’t count calories.

& yeah, I’m a big dude & perfectly fine with that.
 
Wow. I am old enough not to be obliged to fast but figuring out what to eat down to the calarie sounds like penance in itself.
Be a little hungry all day until you have a full meal in the evening.
 
edjlopez23 said:
Based on health and nutrition education.
https://health.gov/dietaryguidelines/2015/guidelines/appendix-2/

The average adult woman needs 2000 calories a day while the average adult male needs like around 2500 calories a day.

The church says fasting is one full meal and I think the two smaller meals are optional. Therefore, you should eat around 700 to 1700 calories. It’s an estimate.
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Thé keyword in your post is average. Some need more, some need less. A growing teen has a voracious appetite. An elderly person, much less. They are both part of your « average ».

Metabolic rates vary, as do levels of activity. Even the 6th century Rule of St. Benedict recognizes this. The Church, in her wisdom, recognizes it. Why do some folks insist on establishing the requirements for others?

We are to work out our own salvation with trembling and fear, not our neighbour’s.

Discernment is something for each individual to learn. If one finds that difficult, then discuss it with your pastor, or a spiritual director, being careful to not let our fasting to become a point of spiritual pride.
 
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Sorry, but he never cut down on any foods at any time. He ate his full meals plus snacks even on Good Friday. He cynically used the excuse of the Church’s fasting directives. So other than that he was a good man who took care of his family and I respected him for that. He lost me when it came to fasting.
 
He followed the rules established by the Church, and you still find fault with him?

For God’s sake, he’s your father man! Honour thy father and mother!!! I lost my father when I was 12. He was a good man but he was also an Anglican. I’m now 60 and I still miss him dearly even though he’d now be 105 years old…

Your father wasn’t making an “excuse”, he was availing himself of a privilege allowed by the Church, who in her wisdom, gives older folks a break…
 
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Trying to correct your father does not break the fourth commandment. For example, Pope Francis needs to be corrected on the scandals.
 
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edjlopez23 said:
Trying to correct your father does not break the fourth commandment. For example, Pope Francis needs to be corrected especially on the scandals.
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Except that in Odilon’s case, there is nothing to correct. His father was conforming to Church law.
 
I know, but he thought he did. But yeah as long as he hopes for the best for his Dad.

I guess people need to get their facts straight.
 
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I’m only slightly off in those cases and can be adjusted. But yeah its not really meant for under 10 years-old and over 65 years old or super athletes. And remember if they are over 60 they don’t have to worry about fasting.

I agree that everyone one has a different amount of food they should eat but 1700 calories and under I think is true for most people or I don’t personally think its fasting. I’m mostly concern about overeating however. I think eating less is better.
 
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