How Often Are Dispensations For Mixed Marriages Granted?

[Just_Lurking]

If you don’t mind me asking are you first cousins and if so what was the reason for the dispensation. If you don’t want to answer that because its too personal that’s okay. I’m just asking because you must have received the dispensation.

The canon law reason for the dispensation was that she was already pregnant by her cousin.

 

[Gilly_flower]

I most certainly was not…please apologise for such a crass assumption…

 

[Just_Lurking]

I most certainly was not…please apologise for such a crass assumption…

I’m sorry; I mis-understood your other post:

They are always granted because if they weren’t most people would go elsewhere…

My own parish priest told me it was impossible for me to get a dispensation to marry an Anglican cousin because the only circumstances in which one could be granted would be to royalty, to someone living abroad who did not wish to marry a foreigner, or if I were pregnant.

I said I would be back the moment I had conceived, and received permission to marry in under a week.

More than 40 years later we are still happily married…

Again, my apologies.

 

[thistle]

Under the canon law that I quoted earlier any (sexual) relationship out to the fourth degree of consanguinity is incestuous.

Father John Hardon’s Modern catholic Dictionary:

INCEST. Sexual intercourse between those who are related by blood or marriage and whom the Church forbids to marry. It is a sin both against chastity and the virtue of piety or reverence due to those closely related to us. Between parent and child, or brother and sister it is also a crime against nature. (Etym. Latin in-, not + castus, chastity: incestus, unchastity, incest.)

 

[Gilly_flower]

The Church did not forbid us to marry. The Church married us. Can you explain why you find the perfectly happy, perfectly legitimate marriage of a stranger half a world away so threatening to your world view? You obviously like rules - well the Church HAS ruled. In my favour. Time to get on with your life…

 

[thistle]

The Church did not forbid us to marry. The Church married us. Can you explain why you find the perfectly happy, perfectly legitimate marriage of a stranger half a world away so threatening to your world view? You obviously like rules - well the Church HAS ruled. In my favour. Time to get on with your life…

I wasn’t the one who opened the thread on this topic. This is a discussion forum and I’m part of the discussion or is anyone who disagrees with you not allowed to put forward a point of view?
I am simply pointing out that canon law forbids first cousins to marry because it is considered an incestuous relationship. Getting a dispensation to marry does not change that.

By the way my posts are talking in general about the topic of first cousins marrying and are not directed at you or anyone else in this thread. My comments are objective and not subjective.

 

[Gilly_flower]

I think insisting that someone is in an incestuous marriage is pretty personal, offensive and disrespectful but I will overlook that and simply ask why you’re so insistent on your own interpretation of Canon law.

Laws can be, and are, changed, and if the Church has decreed that it does not wish to enforce this particular one - which by granting a dispensation it clearly has - why are you so anxious to overrule Her?

Your position is quite without logic…

On the one hand you are claiming the Church’s absolute authority for it’s “rules” and at the sametime denying the Church’s authority to administer those rules…

Whatever happened to binding and loosing in Heaven and on earth???

 

[maryjk]

I wasn’t the one who opened the thread on this topic. This is a discussion forum and I’m part of the discussion or is anyone who disagrees with you not allowed to put forward a point of view?
I am simply pointing out that canon law forbids first cousins to marry because it is considered an incestuous relationship. Getting a dispensation to marry does not change that.

By the way my posts are talking in general about the topic of first cousins marrying and are not directed at you or anyone else in this thread. My comments are objective and not subjective.

The topic is dispensations and Gilly flower indicated that she received a dispensation.

YOU on the other hand indicated that her marriage is incestuous, which Canon Law does not indicate. Father John Hardon’s Modern catholic Dictionary did, but not Canon Law.