How often does your Priest teach about sin in Homilies?

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How often does your Priest teach about about sin in his Homilies? Does he often give you insights into your failings and shortcomings and are in need of repentance, or does he give you the I’m ok, your ok, feel good fluff?
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My parish is full of priests who give us these feel good speaches and preach nothing about sin or church teachings. We had a new priest about a year ago. He was awesome! He would preach about the necessity of confession and our need to be in a state of grace. I guess the people and our Pastor had different ideas because they complained about him and removed him. It was sad to see such a great priest go. I remember going to confession after he was removed from our parish(oddly enough he was still hearing confessions). I told him how much I enjoyed his services at my parish and thanked him for strengthening my faith.

Last year I asked my pastor why he didn’t preach more about sin and the Church’s teachings. He said he just wanted to help people pray better. In reality he didn’t want to upset people. During college I realized how **extremely **poor my Catholic education was. My pastor responded to my question saying, “At least it built a foundation”. In reality it was my family that built the foundation not my schooling and homilies.

I am extremely dissapointed in the way the Church has handled educating its faithful. There are many good priests out there, but at the same time there are also many not so good. Hopefully the new trend of more Orthodox priests I hear about will help this matter.
 
Our priest preaches about sin most of the time but as noted above keeps a balance with remeberence of the love of God for us.
 
Fuzzy wuzzy cuddly sermons almost always. Oprah, Dr. Phil and Montel are sterner on moral issues than our priests and bishops. They wonder why they don’t command more respect.
 
I have never heard the Pastor at the church I attend mention sin, nor the outcome of a sinful life. A matter of fact, in one of his sermons he mentioned "All we need to do is love Jesus. If we do that there is no need to follow the Ten Commandments."

***You can imagine the reaction from the kids and their parents of the parish. I know a few families that left after that one. ***
***This question also ties into something that happened yesterday as well. I normally attend Mass every Saturday morning, and yesterdays Mass turned out to be a funeral Mass. What was most disturbing was that the Pastor never asked the congragation to pray for the soul of the departed. He mentioned that the departed was “A good man” and that “He was with Christ in heaven.” ***
Our pastor frequently mentions that we should “stay in prayer”, but frequently sends mixed messages in his sermons.
Please take a moment to say a short prayer for the holy souls in Purgatory. With some of the messages out there, I’m afraid they are forgotten.
In His peace!
 
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RBushlow:
I hope these poll results make their way to the Vatican. 60% with no mention of sin whatsoever.
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Sin? I thought they don’t teach that anymore, since everyone goes to heaven. :banghead:

In answer to the question - never. By the way is it sinful not to preach about sin from the puplit?
 
Honest to God, in RCIA, the priest said that his seminarian teacher (A Jesusit priest) asked the seminarian students how many mortal sins were committed in Chicago yesteday. (This of course was 20 years ago)

In a full 24 hour period of possibly 6 million people, students were throwing out answers like 200,000 or 1/2 million. The answer from this Jesuit/teacher was MAYBE 7!

Maybe 7 mortal sins in all of Chicago for one whole day! (Think about the prostitution, drugs, sexual immorality, thefts, how could a seminary teach this to it’s up and coming young priests?)

Today’s Catholic Church that you and I attend may NOT really be a Catholic Church. Think about it. Today we hear about love, love, love…but nothing about growing in our faith, nothing about combating the difficult challenges of life, nothing about mortal sin, nothing about feeding us spiritually. I for one am totally disgusted and ready to take some type of action other than posting my frustration on this website.

Today’s Catholic priests are men in long robes but speak with NO authority from God. They are lovey dovey pretty boys, but they are NOT men of God. I really don’t know if we are attending a Catholic Mass anymore? I know Christ still becomes present in the Eucharist, but these men in black have made a mockery and a shame of our beautiful faith.
 
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oldfogey:
Fuzzy wuzzy cuddly sermons almost always. Oprah, Dr. Phil and Montel are sterner on moral issues than our priests and bishops. They wonder why they don’t command more respect.
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Same thing here.
In fact, various members of the parish have been asking for a sermon on the evils of abortion.
The priest stated that he could not do that without also preaching on the evils of the death penalty.

That was a year ago. Still no sermon on either.

I once had a Priest that was not afraid to call sin a sin. He made certain we knew sin, as well as the love and forgiveness of God.
He has long since gone, he was replaced with someone more concerned with feelings then truth. It is he that I speak of when I answered the survey stating that the priest never mentions sin.

…And I have been thirsting every since then.

.02 duly deposited.

Z
 
Our PP has taught about it al lot over the past weeks. Today we had a wonderful sermon on ‘sins of omission’ Thank God we still have Priests we can call Father and mean it as one from whom we accept teaching.

God Bless.
 
NEVER!

I can’t remember the last time I heard the word mentioned.
Do priests still believe in sin?

This is my biggest pet peeve with the Church right now, I think.
Luke warm.
 
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Fergal:
Our PP has taught about it al lot over the past weeks. Today we had a wonderful sermon on ‘sins of omission’ Thank God we still have Priests we can call Father and mean it as one from whom we accept teaching.

God Bless.
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Oh, I wish our priest could discus this one! I’d bring along a few people to listen and absorb. I believe too few people believe this is a sin.

My parish is blessed with 2 priests who tell it like it is. They hold no punches back - and amazingly attendance is up, and Adoration attendance is increased.

I love my parish.
 
+JMJ

My priest does give a homily about sin probably every 2 months when he sees the lines of the confession come down especially since he only does conffesion every other week. 😦 But I am very thankful when he does preach about it and I really thank him on that day.

p.s. Don’t forget to thank your priest for being thier.
 
You should have been at my Mass this weekend. We had a Franciscan trying out for a slot for the TLM and he gave 55 minutes on sin and voting. The man was on fire. My Mom who came with me for the first time said he would have made my childhood pastor jealous. 😃 The Firey Friar had managed to beat his personal best.
Though, it was a good homily despite the length and it was all relavent to today.
Kathy
 
Unfortunitly, the particular priest has spoken about sin in a great deal for about a year. Now were relegated to Homilies that rival Paul Harvey’s “The Rest of The Story.”

I like the EWTN Franciscan Friars Homilies. Many priests and folks have forgetten that there is a Heaven and HELL. Or as Father Angelus Shaughnesy would say out out in Alabama, “If you believe in one, you better believe in the other one.” We need more priests like the ones in Irondale.
 
Sir_Hubert said:
***I have never heard the Pastor at the church I attend mention sin, nor the outcome of a sinful life. ***
This is indeed endemic to not only Catholic parishes, but establishment Protestant Churches and even so called Evangelical Churches, which have turned their puritan tradition of personal holiness into little more than a gospel of personal prosperity and pious lite weight feel good spirituality in the vernacular of the culture of psychological self help and self consciousness.
A matter of fact, in one of his sermons he mentioned "All we need to do is love Jesus. If we do that there is no need to follow the Ten Commandments."
In one sense this is true, but it is also true, in as much as Jesus reduced all the Commands to two. However, this properly understood holds us to an even higher standard and ignorance of the 10 Commandments is ignorance of Christ. Yet mere obedience without love will not save us. The priest should have said that if we truly love and follow Christ will obey the 10 Commandments in spirit and letter and go beyond them to the great commentary on them; The Beatitudes, which are an even higher, loftier and more difficult standard. We can never hope to live them without Christ, so our obedience is dependent on our relying moment to momen on His Grace.

I hope that is what your priest meant, but I doubt it.
***You can imagine the reaction from the kids and their parents of the parish. I know a few families that left after that one. ***
I understand how they feel, but their response is wrong. They should stay and contend for the faith, with correct obedience, provided it not cause sin and with charity. This is why there are so many Protestant churches.
***This question also ties into something that happened yesterday as well. I normally attend Mass every Saturday morning, and yesterdays Mass turned out to be a funeral Mass. What was most disturbing was that the Pastor never asked the congragation to pray for the soul of the departed. He mentioned that the departed was “A good man” and that “He was with Christ in heaven.” ***
I hope he did not collect a Mass Fee, if he was certain the soul had already merited the Beatific Vision. In truth, we can hope for the departed and commend them to the mercy of God, but we may not declare them Elect. This sort of defacto cannonization of the departed in Christ is not wholesome.
Our pastor frequently mentions that we should “stay in prayer”, but frequently sends mixed messages in his sermons.

Please take a moment to say a short prayer for the holy souls in Purgatory. With some of the messages out there, I’m afraid they are forgotten.

In His peace!
Keep the Faith and remember a man’s foes are sometimes those of his own household, even shepherds of the faith. Love and pray for your pastor and open up a conversation of concern, charity and curiousity.

If you are certain he is teaching or leading contrary to orthodoxy or orthopraxis, ask for an interview with his superior.
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Catholic29:
How often does your Priest teach about about sin in his Homilies? Does he often give you insights into your failings and shortcomings and are in need of repentance, or does he give you the I’m ok, your ok, feel good fluff?
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Very seldom, if ever. Sometimes he’ll mention sin, but that is pretty harmless as even tv preachers mention sin. Only that RCC teaches mortal sin (as far as I know) and the distinct ever present possibility of one losing his soul right up to the point of death. But most Catholics aren’t aware of this as the bishops and priests pretty much quit preaching the whole gospel 35 years ago. And the catechisms have been defiicient since then also, as a committee of the USCCB admitted a couple of years ago.

Until the priests start preaching the entire Word of God that was handed down by the apostles we won’t know what venial sin is, much less mortal sin, much less what the consequences of dying with a mortal sin on your soul.

And until the priests start preaching the entire Word of God handed down in Tradition, we also won’t know what the creed means, what the sacraments are and the positive effect they can have in your life, why it is necessary to obey the commandments
and why we should pray.

The CCC says pastoral preaching, catechesis and all forms of instruction should hold pride of place in the liturgical homily (n. 132). N. 1074 also says that catechesis should occur during the liturgy. N. 75, 76, 78 and 888 also clarify what the homilies should be based on.

We have to tell the bishops, who control the seminaries, to begin teaching the seminarians that they should not restrict their homilies to commentary on scripture only as this is a sure fire way of killing the faith.

Most priests were taught they should base their homilies on the readings of the day or the saint of the day. The result is Sunday Mass attendance is down to 33% nationwide, with Boston, Chicago & New York down to the teens. What will it take for us to wake up and smell the coffee?
 
as often as the readings of the day pertain to the topic of sin in general, a specific sin, fall from grace etc. His homily is supposed to be based on the readings, to further open them up for us.

Our pastor spoke on local TV the other night in response to a question about reception of the Eucharist and made it very clear in the 60 seconds alloted to him that divorced and remarried Catholics, co-habiting Catholics, pro-abortion Catholics, and all others in a state of mortal sin may not approach communion worthily until the confess, repent, are absolved and do penance.
 
How often? The EWTN’s Father Francis, and Dominic and Deacon Bill Steltemyer, they preach it more often than not as if it were their bread and butter, making them high caliber priests. :eek:
 
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Voice_Of_Reason:
I like the EWTN Franciscan Friars Homilies. Many priests and folks have forgetten that there is a Heaven and HELL. Or as Father Angelus Shaughnesy would say out out in Alabama, “If you believe in one, you better believe in the other one.” We need more priests like the ones in Irondale.
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Indeed, now he’s my idea of a homilist! All I get at my church, with its 3 priests, and at a neighboring parish with one, is slush, gush and mush, that ends up sounding like Charlie Brown’s teacher…like I just stop hearing it after awhile. How many times can they preach that God loves you? Or “let go and let God”? It loses all meaning. NO word of sin, not even a swipe at abortion at my church, except maybe in the intentions praying for “for prolife leaders.” It’s like when Garrison Keillor once wrote (back when he made sense) about a preacher in Lake Wobegon who never mentioned sin “lest some members of the congregation feel marginalized.”

Someone asked here recently if we were being “fed” and I would say NOT, except through reading and EWTN.
 
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