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I have my opinions, what are yours?
So I think the Precious Blood should be offered whenever possible. RS 101-102 indicates the conditions where it is not possible:
- Holy Communion has a fuller form as a sign when it is distributed under both kinds. For in this form the sign of the eucharistic banquet is more clearly evident and clear expression is given to the divine will by which the new and eternal Covenant is ratified in the Blood of the Lord, as also the relationship between the Eucharistic banquet and the eschatological banquet in the Father’s Kingdom.
So does or does not the spiritual good of offering the Precious Blood to the faithful offset the negatives of relying too heavily on extraordinary ministers, and the Communion procession taking a long time?I would greatly prefer that the Chalice be offered to the faithful only on major occasions, such as Solemnities, and also those Feasts pertaining directly to the Eucharist, such as Corpus Christi.
Overall, it would reduce the number of EMHC’s required at each Mass and probably speed up the distibution of the Blessed Sacrament.
All Spiritual Good is provided in the single species.So does or does not the spiritual good of offering the Precious Blood to the faithful offset the negatives of relying too heavily on extraordinary ministers, and the Communion procession taking a long time?
The monastary that rec. me into the Church (Latin Rite) offers the Sacred Species by intinction. I’ve never minded it at all. That said, I very much doubt the Sacred Body and Most Precious Blood were offered by Our Lord to the Apostles by intinction at the Last Supper when the Holy Eucharist was instituted.All Spiritual Good is provided in the single species.
The only thing ‘lacking’ is a certain element of symbolism. But even that is not complete, because the use of the Chalice also carries incomplete symbolism; the Body and Blood are show as separated. Christ is fully united and Risen, His Body and Blood cannot be separated
The truest symbolism is that of Intinction, either the Roman or Byzantine methods.
The Body and Blood are server together and united. That is my true preference and is mandatory in the Eastern Churches.
Nobody seems very interested in that in the Roman Church, as intinction can only be done by a Priest or Deacon (not an EMHC) and Communion in the hand of an Intincted Host in forbidden as well.
So really, the deepest, truest symbolism really isn’t there in any common case in the Roman Church, but all the Grace and Spiritual Good is; so I would therefore look to limit EMHC’s and for brevity.
True, but He also didn’t use any EMHC’s eitherThat said, I very much doubt the Sacred Body and Most Precious Blood were offered by Our Lord to the Apostles by intinction at the Last Supper when the Holy Eucharist was instituted.
Now, Brenden, I was being somewhat light-hearted (and I do agree that if necessary it is sufficient to rec. only the Sacred Body, as the fullness of the Sacrament is contained in both and either of the Sacred Species), but I’m pretty sure that we are intended, in the Holy Communion, to rec. both the Sacrifice (the Death) and the Resurrection of Our Lord. There may be good reason for not allowing a general reception of the Most Precious Blood at times (in my opinion, few, like during flu season, etc.), but I don’t think the above Eucharistic theology is precisely what we subscribe to, with all due respect.True, but He also didn’t use any EMHC’s either
And one might also note that the Apostles are Bishops, and both Priests and Bishops receive the Eucharist at at different time and a different way that the Laity during Mass. A similar passing of both the paten and the chalice to the attending clergy has always been part of the Mass.
Priests and Bishops re present the Sacrificial offering. This is symbolized by the separation of the Body and the Blood. It is therefore appropriate theologically and symbolically for them to receive the species separately.
The faithful receive the Resurrection. It is therefore correct for them to receive the united Christ, symbolized either by a single Host, or by the joining of the species together.
JKirkLVNV said:), but I’m pretty sure that we are intended, in the Holy Communion, to rec. both the Sacrifice (the Death) and the Resurrection of Our Lord. … but I don’t think the above Eucharistic theology is precisely what we subscribe to, with all due respect.
Well, honestly, I don’t know enough to comment, but I’ve never heard of this distinction before. Of course, I did know and reverence the notion of Alter Christi.What I outlined is pretty much exactly what I learned in Sacramental Theology class
The specices are consecrated seperately as a re presentation of the death of Christ. (there is death when the Blood is seperate from the Body)
They are rejoined as a re presentation of the Resurection. In the East both the species are completely mixed; in the Roman Church, a small piece of the Host is placed into the Chalice.
But it is entirely forbidden for the laity to recieve communion prior to that rejoining.
Yes, the faithful unite in prayer at the Sacrifice, but it is the priest who presents the offering. The priest is the Alter Christi, That is the nature of Priesthood.
You are picking nits. Most people understood the question.U need to clarify your question b/c the precious blood is to be offered at all Masses (i.e. Body and Blood of Christ). A better wording of your question might be how often should the faithful be permitted to receive from the chalice?