How REAL is Satan?

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Is Satan just a myth? How can we know?
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We cannot know. If we believe in God then we believe Satan to be true, and we have plenty of reasons to believe in God. I think that we also have some reasons to believe that the devil does exist but that does not imply knowledge.
 
Hi,

I would like to quote from the Catechism of the Cathoilc Church which Blessed Pope John Paul II said “It is a sure norm for teaching the Catholic Faith.”
#391 Behind the disobedient choice of our first parents lurks a seductive voice, opposed to God, which makes them fall into death out of envy. Scripture and the Church’s Tradition see in this being a fallen angel, called “Satan” or the “devil”. The Church teaches that Satan was at first a good angel, made by God: “The devil and the other demons were indeed created naturally good by God, but they became evil by their own doing.”
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#392 Scripture speaks of a sin of these angels. This “fall” consists in the free choice of these created spirits, who radically and irrevocably rejected God and his reign. We find a reflection of that rebellion in the tempter’s words to our first parents: “You will be like God.” The devil “has sinned from the beginning”; he is “a liar and the father of lies”.
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#394 Scripture witnesses to the disastrous influence of the one Jesus calls “a murderer from the beginning”, who would even try to divert Jesus from the mission received from his Father. “The reason the Son of God appeared was to destroy the works of the devil.” In its consequences the gravest of these works was the mendacious seduction that led man to disobey God.
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395 The power of Satan is, nonetheless, not infinite. He is only a creature, powerful from the fact that he is pure spirit, but still a creature. He cannot prevent the building up of God’s reign. Although Satan may act in the world out of hatred for God and his kingdom in Christ Jesus, and although his action may cause grave injuries - of a spiritual nature and, indirectly, even of a physical nature- to each man and to society, the action is permitted by divine providence which with strength and gentleness guides human and cosmic history. It is a great mystery that providence should permit diabolical activity, but “we know that in everything God works for good with those who love him.”
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Church Tradition, Sacred Scripture, and the Magisterium of the Church have always taught that Satan is a real. We can take that to the bank and be certain of that truth as we are about the color of the sky or whether we exist.

God bless.
 
PJM said:
Is Satan just a myth?
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Depends on how you treat that question. It could be that the character of Satan is a myth for something very real and fearsome in the world.
PJM said:
How can we know?
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Like love, but even more so, that’s not a matter you can put to a lab test.

A good way to know who, or what, Satan is, is to stand back and take a look at the world, read the Book of Job, and follow the theme of sin in the Bible.
 
Nicea325 said:
Well if Satan is just a myth,then I guess Hell is also a myth? I did not know God was into fabricating myths?
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What he said :sad_yes: Jesus warns about Satan. Jesus wouldn’t warn us about something that didn’t exist unless He was a liar or insane, and from what we know, He wasn’t. Unless you think Jesus is a myth? Or Hell? Or God for that matter?

Satan is very real, I sure he wasn’t :sad_yes: but he :sad_yes:

God bless :byzsoc:

David
 
He is real. Don’t let him trick you into thinking he’s not. That’s one of his tricks.
 
Genesis doesn’t say the serpent in Eden was the devil, only a beast of the field. The devil attribution came senturies later, after the Babylonian exile had permeated Jewish thought with the figure of Satan. In the Book of Job, Satan is presented as strolling into the court of God, even though wer are told that nothing evil can enter His presence. Unless job is a parable (which I suspect it is), how does one account for this? And if Satan is the father of lies, where did the lying spirit come from that God sent to fool the false prophets in 2 Chronicles 18:21? Are God and the father of lies in cahoots? God himself told Moses to lie in Ex. 3:3:18 ans Samuel to lie in 1 Sam. 16:2.

My chief puzzlement about Satan (aside from his seeming to be superfluous…isn’t human nature evil enough without a satanic scapegoat? – is why he would fall in the first place. If he was as exalted as tradition says – one of the Archangels closest to God’s throne – surely he would know that God is omnipotent, and that no rebellion against him could succeed. Plus, there Lucifer is in Heaven, filled wioth bliss, exalted beyond our imagination, privileged to serve at the very throne of the Almighty – what could he possibly hope to gain by rebellion? The whole tale seems improbable to me. I suspect humanity was looking for someone to blame besides God for the inexplicable evil of the universe, and so invented Satan.
 
Read the book of Revelation,it tells you he is real, and it tells you he does not win!😃
 
Well either Christ has lied to us or Satan is real. And besides, there is evil in our world so we have to have a devil (or be the devil ourselves), or our God can’t be truly good.
 
PJM said:
Is Satan just a myth? How can we know?
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Well, I can appreciate your question about the “Evil One”.

A year-or-so ago, a family member was invited to visit us and stay awhile.
Until she arrived with her suitcase we did not know what a _atanist really is, and did not know
she was one.
We soon found out, and it was not a pretty picture. Even my big dog’s ran with their tails between their leg’s whenever she came out of her guest room. She would laugh at seeing them frightened, and say: “Oh, they just can see the giant Snake following me.”:eek:
It actually was difficult to breathe deeply, to think clearly when she was around, or to sleep.
It was even hard to complete a paragraph verbally when trying to speak to her(kind of felt like you were being choked). I then knew, for the first time ever, what that dark spirit can do, and what it feels like.
Needless to say we were quite happy when she ended her stay a week later. Plus the bottle of Holy Water had to be replenished.:o
This is a very true, and tragic story.
 
Desertmesa said:
Well, I can appreciate your question about the “Evil One”.

A year-or-so ago, a family member was invited to visit us and stay awhile.
Until she arrived with her suitcase we did not know what a _atanist really is, and did not know
she was one.
We soon found out, and it was not a pretty picture. Even my big dog’s ran with their tails between their leg’s whenever she came out of her guest room. She would laugh at seeing them frightened, and say: “Oh, they just can see the giant Snake following me.”:eek:
It actually was difficult to breathe deeply, to think clearly when she was around, or to sleep.
It was even hard to complete a paragraph verbally when trying to speak to her(kind of felt like you were being choked). I then knew, for the first time ever, what that dark spirit can do, and what it feels like.
Needless to say we were quite happy when she ended her stay a week later. Plus the bottle of Holy Water had to be replenished.:o
This is a very true, and tragic story.
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:bigyikes::bigyikes::bigyikes::eek::eek::eek:
 
Desertmesa said:
Well, I can appreciate your question about the “Evil One”.

A year-or-so ago, a family member was invited to visit us and stay awhile.
Until she arrived with her suitcase we did not know what a _atanist really is, and did not know
she was one.
We soon found out, and it was not a pretty picture. Even my big dog’s ran with their tails between their leg’s whenever she came out of her guest room. She would laugh at seeing them frightened, and say: “Oh, they just can see the giant Snake following me.”:eek:
It actually was difficult to breathe deeply, to think clearly when she was around, or to sleep.
It was even hard to complete a paragraph verbally when trying to speak to her(kind of felt like you were being choked). I then knew, for the first time ever, what that dark spirit can do, and what it feels like.
Needless to say we were quite happy when she ended her stay a week later. Plus the bottle of Holy Water had to be replenished.:o
This is a very true, and tragic story.
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o_O Creepy :sad_yes:
 
Yes, major creepy for sure.

Since that horrid visit, I regularly say the Saint Michael prayer. Not weekly, but daily.
A week after she left I went to our little Catholic gift shop and bought a copy of a booklet
titled: SPIRITUAL WARFARE PRAYERS. I like some of the prayers in it, and found them
to be quite powerful.
The Holy Rosary is one of our best weapon’s against the Evil One indeed. I loved Padre
Pio’s statement of the Rosary being his weapon.👍
 
John_of_Woking said:
I would have drenched that satanist in holy water
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Well stated!
When she saw my St. Benedict Crucifix pop out from behind my jacket, she flew into
a maddening rage, and her eye’s actually went from blue to black in color.:eek:
 
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