How safe are the changes in Church

[hornpout]

I was brought up in the old catholic church ways ,and i see all the things that are changing in today’s times and it scares me .We were never suppose to touch the Chalice or the Host ,and we had to wait 1 hour after eating before receiving the Host .And as far as cremation it was never thought of ,the body had to go in the ground whole and turn to ashes on its own ,my thing is who gave the church the right to change these things ?.If it was the pope Jesus never came down from heaven and gave permission to do this .Know we have people giving out the communion and the wine and people take the host in there hands at communion .An old feller told me once that when one thing gets chance and another it becomes out of control and we lost the real tradition of what it was suppose to be ,and if we die will God judge us on these changes Thank You for your help

 

[jtavington]

“Whatever you bind on earth will be bound in heaven.”

Be at peace. What is changed and changeable are disciplines. The rules about fasting, communion in hand, and access to the chalice have changed several times over the centuries. The Church, within certain limits, can permit or deny as she sees fit in order to best minister to souls. But God will not allow his church to fall into error. So yes, the changes are safe.

 

[1ke]

We were never suppose to touch the Chalice or the Host ,

It’s not magic. Don’t be superstitious. Rubrics can change. Some elements of the mass have changed repeatedly over 2000 years, it continues to change and adapt.

and we had to wait 1 hour after eating before receiving the Host

And you still do. In the past it was 3 hours and even farther back it was after midnight. For the last 30 or 40 years it has been one hour and is still one hour. Not sure what the problem is?

And as far as cremation it was never thought of ,the body had to go in the ground whole and turn to ashes on its own ,my thing is who gave the church the right to change

Perhaps you are unaware of burial customs over the world for the last 2000 years and have only a narrow view of how things have been done where you live in the last few decades.

my thing is who gave the church the right to change these things

Jesus.

Jesus never came down from heaven and gave permission to do this

Well, actually… he did.

if we die will God judge us on these change

The person that told you that didn’t know what they were talking about and they were incorrect.

 

[Loud-living-dogma]

I just hope the changes are safe. I wish these things hadn’t changed. But we are stuck with them now.

 

[1ke]

just hope the changes are safe

What does that even mean?

 

[Loud-living-dogma]

Yeah, “safe” is maybe too simple of a word. You can’t deny, there is no end to the debates on the efficacy, appeal, etc. of the changes of the last fifty years.

 

[jtavington]

Whether they are prudent or not a separate question and not really up to the laity. I will say that the only reason I can go to Mass is because of the changes allowing for vigil Masses.

 

[TechieGuy]

there is no end to the debates on the efficacy, appeal, etc. of the changes of the last fifty years.

That’s people for ya

 

[Genesis315]

You do make a good point that an unhealthy interest in novelty in things that can change can lead to a desire for novelty in things that can’t. Likewise, they can unncessarily unsettle the faith of believers. Our disciplines and traditions should enforce the unchangeble revelation from God.

With regard to traditions and disciplines related to the administration of the sacraments, the Council of Trent (which condemned Protestantism in the 16th century) affirmed the Church’s power in this regard, citing to the example of St. Paul:

It furthermore declares, that this power has ever been in the Church, that, in the dispensation of the sacraments, their substance being untouched, it may ordain,–or change, what things soever it may judge most expedient, for the profit of those who receive, or for the veneration of the said sacraments, according to the difference of circumstances, times, and places. And this the Apostle seems not obscurely to have intimated, when he says; Let a man so account of us, as of the ministers of Christ, and the dispensers of the mysteries of God. And indeed it [Page 142] is sufficiently manifest that he himself exercised this power,- as in many other things, so in regard of this very sacrament; when, after having ordained certain things touching the use thereof, he says; The rest I will set in order when I come.

https://history.hanover.edu/texts/trent/ct21.html