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How should I approach the situation when it arises?
Oaky, this is gonna be long, but well worth it so just try and stick with me.

Okay, my whole family is Cradle-Catholic. That said, my sister isn’t Catholic anymore…but the rest of us are. She’s 27 by the way. She started dating and all and majority of her boyfriends were these Fellowship types. At first, we thought she was going to the Fellowship Churches just so she could be with her boyfriend. Then she splits completely. That was a shock as she would always read theology and apologetics, was active in the Church with the Children’s Liturgy, she would go on retreats, etc. So when she told us…well, she never told us, she just went off and did it. She hasn’t set foot in a Catholic Church for around 5 or 6 years now. She still refuses to. She ended up marrying this guy who is confined to a wheel-chair and is paralyzed from the neck down, but can still move his hands a little. Now he is an incredibly nice guy, nothing held against him. But my sister is rather ill-equipped to manage a situation like that. Anyway, he is Fellowship as well. So my sister became Fellowship, and then she married a Fellowship a few years later. They already got married, so there’s really nothing we can do about it.

As a Catholic, she has a rather long list now. She rejected (and still rejects) Catholicism and since we were brought up as Catholic, this is also going against the Commandment to honor thy mother and father. She got “Baptized” in the Fellowship which is also a heretical act, as “we believe in one Baptism”. She entered into an invalid marriage. Since she technically is still Catholic in the eyes of the Magisterium, by her marrying a Protestant Fellowship it is an invalid marriage. Again, nothing against the guy, but it is what it is.
We’ve tried and tried to bring her back but nothing happens. We’ve tried apologetics; we’ve talked and reasoned with her til we were blue in the face and still nothing. When I joined the Knights of Columbus, I had a mini-reconversion experience. So in light of that, Ive started taking interest in theology. When I told my sister she said, “oh, that’s cool. Now you can learn why we do what we do and you can decide for yourself if you really need to do it or not.” When she said that I thought, “wait…what!!?!” So that is as close as a reason I’ll ever get for her reason for leaving. I guess she felt stifled or something. I get what she means though, to an extent. For example, you don’t HAVE to say the Rosary daily, but it is encouraged. I get that part of it. But there are things that really are “no if’s, and’s, or but’s”. The whole thing is a big mess. In all honesty the only thing to do is hope and pray. It really is in His hands now.

Anyway, I told y’all that in order to tell y’all this:

As is common when people get married (properly or otherwise), you gain another family. You have the other family over for dinner, they have you over to parties, it becomes a sense of unity. The guy’s parents are Protestants as well. Nothing against them, they are really nice, well-educated, very smart and strong in their faith (even if it is Protestant faith), but they are good people. However, Protestants are still Protestants. So even though I want to show them courtesy and respect as we should do for anyone regardless of creed…I still can’t help but think that by doing so for them, Im doing the same for all heretics. In other words if the Inquisition were still around, both of our families would be in hot water.

What Im trying to say is, even though they are good people, do I still need to show caution and maybe rejection even at the risk of alienating them?

Or do I show them courtesy and respect as we are called to do, and still treat them as friends of the family in light of the situation, (though complex and unsettling as the situation may be)?

Do I run from them like the plagues? Or do I welcome them with open arms?
^
these last two questions also go fro any Protestant in general, not just the guy’s parents.
 
Hmm. My extended family is all over the place religiously, and half my children have officially left the faith. I suspect there are reasons I and you don’t know about that have as much to do with what these loved ones want to do that the Church would not allow, or maybe some hurt they experienced that they associate with the Church and can’t get over as with the faith of the Church as such. As adults, they make their own decisions, they pray (or not) as they wish when we are at their house and the same goes for when others are at our house. Protestants who have always been Protestants probably don’t understand the Catholic Church, but think they do and won’t listen no matter how much you deny we worship Mary, or whatever. Mostly at this point I think it is important for you to be joyfully and authentically Catholic and let God take care of this in his own time.
 
As a former Protestant gone Catholic I’d like to offer some insight. 👍

First, I absolutely love Catholicism! When compared to Protestantism it’s simply the whole path to Christ (also the first!). With this said you have to remember Catholics, Protestants, Muslims, Atheists, Jews, etc. either chose or can’t see this. Whether their hearts are too hardened or some other reason they may never come to the faith, but does this mean we are to leave these mislead or misinformed brothers and sisters in the dark? Simple answer, NO!

You must continue to lead by example what it means to be Catholic. What it means to be a follower of Christ. This doesn’t mean you must lay down your convictions, however, choosing to alienate this extended family will not only give them the wrong impression of Catholicism but of you as well.

Let me give you an example. My sister is Baptist and she was recently engaged. Now I love my sister dearly and when she told me she wanted to get married outside of any church I was a bit… flabbergasted. But rather than force my opinion on her I chose to explain the logic of being married within the church. I explained, she listened and in the end she still chose to marry outside of the church 😦

BUT, despite this I know I did everything on my part to explain the teachings on the matter and guide her to make the right decision. But ultimately the final decision was hers to make. The saying you can lead a horse to water but you can’t make it drink applies to my situation, and I think it applies to yours as well.

Your sister and extended family may not be following the one true church for many reasons, so be an ambassador of the faith and try to help clarify any misconceptions they have. Show them love, not hate. Prayers not swears. It’s the hardest thing to do, but put this in God’s hands.

The church is facing a new type of division within the faith. Unauthorized, uneducated people feeling entitled to redefine Christianity, to redefine the words of Christ. We must pray for these people.

My prayers go out to you and your family! Good luck! 🙂
 
How should I approach the situation when it arises?
Oaky, this is gonna be long, but well worth it so just try and stick with me.

Okay, my whole family is Cradle-Catholic. That said, my sister isn’t Catholic anymore…but the rest of us are. She’s 27 by the way. She started dating and all and majority of her boyfriends were these Fellowship types. At first, we thought she was going to the Fellowship Churches just so she could be with her boyfriend. Then she splits completely. That was a shock as she would always read theology and apologetics, was active in the Church with the Children’s Liturgy, she would go on retreats, etc. So when she told us…well, she never told us, she just went off and did it. She hasn’t set foot in a Catholic Church for around 5 or 6 years now. She still refuses to. She ended up marrying this guy who is confined to a wheel-chair and is paralyzed from the neck down, but can still move his hands a little. Now he is an incredibly nice guy, nothing held against him. But my sister is rather ill-equipped to manage a situation like that. Anyway, he is Fellowship as well. So my sister became Fellowship, and then she married a Fellowship a few years later. They already got married, so there’s really nothing we can do about it.

As a Catholic, she has a rather long list now. She rejected (and still rejects) Catholicism and since we were brought up as Catholic, this is also going against the Commandment to honor thy mother and father. She got “Baptized” in the Fellowship which is also a heretical act, as “we believe in one Baptism”. She entered into an invalid marriage. Since she technically is still Catholic in the eyes of the Magisterium, by her marrying a Protestant Fellowship it is an invalid marriage. Again, nothing against the guy, but it is what it is.
We’ve tried and tried to bring her back but nothing happens. We’ve tried apologetics; we’ve talked and reasoned with her til we were blue in the face and still nothing. When I joined the Knights of Columbus, I had a mini-reconversion experience. So in light of that, Ive started taking interest in theology. When I told my sister she said, “oh, that’s cool. Now you can learn why we do what we do and you can decide for yourself if you really need to do it or not.” When she said that I thought, “wait…what!!?!” So that is as close as a reason I’ll ever get for her reason for leaving. I guess she felt stifled or something. I get what she means though, to an extent. For example, you don’t HAVE to say the Rosary daily, but it is encouraged. I get that part of it. But there are things that really are “no if’s, and’s, or but’s”. The whole thing is a big mess. In all honesty the only thing to do is hope and pray. It really is in His hands now.

Anyway, I told y’all that in order to tell y’all this:

As is common when people get married (properly or otherwise), you gain another family. You have the other family over for dinner, they have you over to parties, it becomes a sense of unity. The guy’s parents are Protestants as well. Nothing against them, they are really nice, well-educated, very smart and strong in their faith (even if it is Protestant faith), but they are good people. However, Protestants are still Protestants. So even though I want to show them courtesy and respect as we should do for anyone regardless of creed…I still can’t help but think that by doing so for them, Im doing the same for all heretics. In other words if the Inquisition were still around, both of our families would be in hot water.

What Im trying to say is, even though they are good people, do I still need to show caution and maybe rejection even at the risk of alienating them?

Or do I show them courtesy and respect as we are called to do, and still treat them as friends of the family in light of the situation, (though complex and unsettling as the situation may be)?

Do I run from them like the plagues? Or do I welcome them with open arms?
^
these last two questions also go fro any Protestant in general, not just the guy’s parents.
you definitely welcome them with open arms didn’t Jesus say we came to call the sinners not the just and also if you treat them like plagues its just gonna give Catholicism as bad name and hey i got many non Catholic friends and even some pagan but we have a mutual respect for one others beliefs we don’t make fun of each others beliefs ill try to talk to them about the Lord’s Church but i don’t shove it down there throats try to talk to your kin by marriage about Catholicism but don’t be over board about it
 
I would recommend you read, on the catholic.org website, the article about ecumenism. It opened my eyes in a huge way.
God bless you.
 
BornAgain2010;:
8006197]How should I approach the situation when it arises?
Oaky, this is gonna be long, but well worth it so just try and stick with me.

As a Catholic, she has a rather long list now. She rejected (and still rejects) Catholicism and since we were brought up as Catholic, this is also going against the Commandment to honor thy mother and father. She got “Baptized” in the Fellowship which is also a heretical act, as “we believe in one Baptism”. She entered into an invalid marriage. Since she technically is still Catholic in the eyes of the Magisterium, by her marrying a Protestant Fellowship it is an invalid marriage. Again, nothing against the guy, but it is what it is.

Anyway, I told y’all that in order to tell y’all this:

As is common when people get married (properly or otherwise), you gain another family. You have the other family over for dinner, they have you over to parties, it becomes a sense of unity. The guy’s parents are Protestants as well. Nothing against them, they are really nice, well-educated, very smart and strong in their faith (even if it is Protestant faith), but they are good people. However, Protestants are still Protestants. So even though I want to show them courtesy and respect as we should do for anyone regardless of creed…I still can’t help but think that by doing so for them, Im doing the same for all heretics. In other words if the Inquisition were still around, both of our families would be in hot water.

What Im trying to say is, even though they are good people, do I still need to show caution and maybe rejection even at the risk of alienating them?
NO ! for the following reasons:

***Faith is a GIFT from God, and God alone saves. God obligates HIMSELF to offer everytone sufficient grace to Know Him and through this to know HIS Truth. MANY folks choose NOT TO accept God’s grace on the understanding that they either know more or know better than God and His CC. THAT IS WHY GOD GAVE US A FREEWILL, MIND, and Intellect connected to our souls. BOTH Heaven and hell are OUR choice NOT God’s who only affirms our life-choices.

OUR obligation is to: 1. Know our Faith 2. Live and practice it fully, visibally and humbly and 3. SHARE it’s beauty, its truth WHEN GOD presents the opportunity. IF you’re socializing with these folks; JUST LIVE you’re Catholic Faith for them to see it. ALLOW them to ask questions and IN CHARITY be prepared to supply the information they seek. IF they ask someing you’re unsure of GET the information rather than guess. NENER disagree forcefully! rather take the apporach of “have you ever considered this …?”
Do I run from them like the plagues? Or do I welcome them with open arms?
^
these last two questions also go fro any Protestant in general, not just the guy’s parents.
With open arms; and open heart; WITH PRAYERS Before meals and after; with living our faith for ALL to see. And being prepared by REALLY knowing what we believe and why and how we can believe it so we can respond in chaitatble truth to the misconceptions they likely have. IF you’d like help with this send me a PM.

Did God hide from sinners, from the sick from the needy? No! He is found in their midst so that he could heal them:thumbsup:

Pray for them!

God Bless,
Pat**
 
BornAgain,

I just have a few minor corrections to aid in your catholic understanding.
She entered into an invalid marriage. Since she technically is still Catholic in the eyes of the Magisterium, by her marrying a Protestant Fellowship it is an invalid marriage.
You can’t say that such a marraige is, in fact, invalid. In fact, the church assumes that it IS valid, and whether or not it really is in reality, it is at least putative.

The question is whether or not it had canonical form, and that can’t be answered without a deep knowledge of canon law and requirements for validity of marraige between a catholic and a non-catholic.
In other words if the Inquisition were still around, both of our families would be in hot water.
No, neither you nor their family would be in “hot water”. You are buying into the histories of the inquisitions as presented by very dishonest, anti-catholic english protestant “historians” who had to legitimize their churches by inventing historical abuses to condemn the church.

The inquisition ONLY sought out specific heresies by catholics. Non-catholics were not subject to the inquisition, nor was association with non-catholic grounds for accusation of heresy. In fact, the institution of the inquisition was designed specifically to combat judicial abuse on the subject by uneducated (at least in terms of theology) magistrates.
 

To BornAgain2010, the Original Poster, ( OP ),

I think you should try to treat the Protestant side of your family, like Jesus Christ would treat them, and does treat them. As His sons and daughters.

I would venture to guess, that the Protestant side probably treats you in a more Christian way, than you want to treat them.

Most likely, the Protestant side is probably NOT praying and saying, “God, please help me deal rightly and justifiably, with those darn Catholics”. “God, it is terribly unfortunate that those darn Catholics, do not know You, as we Protestants know You”.

I think you should not try to focus on your religious differences, or to talk or argue about those differences. Maybe you can simply agree to disagree.

Try to LIVE your Catholic faith, and try to LOVE, as God wants us to ‘love your neighbor’. Even our Protestant relatives and non-Catholic neighbors !

Maybe you should try asking God what He thinks you should do.

From JAW642 on 06/20/2011


How should I approach the situation when it arises?
Oaky, this is gonna be long, but well worth it so just try and stick with me.

Okay, my whole family is Cradle-Catholic. That said, my sister isn’t Catholic anymore…but the rest of us are. She’s 27 by the way. She started dating and all and majority of her boyfriends were these Fellowship types. At first, we thought she was going to the Fellowship Churches just so she could be with her boyfriend. Then she splits completely. That was a shock as she would always read theology and apologetics, was active in the Church with the Children’s Liturgy, she would go on retreats, etc. So when she told us…well, she never told us, she just went off and did it. She hasn’t set foot in a Catholic Church for around 5 or 6 years now. She still refuses to. She ended up marrying this guy who is confined to a wheel-chair and is paralyzed from the neck down, but can still move his hands a little. Now he is an incredibly nice guy, nothing held against him. But my sister is rather ill-equipped to manage a situation like that. Anyway, he is Fellowship as well. So my sister became Fellowship, and then she married a Fellowship a few years later. They already got married, so there’s really nothing we can do about it.

As a Catholic, she has a rather long list now. She rejected (and still rejects) Catholicism and since we were brought up as Catholic, this is also going against the Commandment to honor thy mother and father. She got “Baptized” in the Fellowship which is also a heretical act, as “we believe in one Baptism”. She entered into an invalid marriage. Since she technically is still Catholic in the eyes of the Magisterium, by her marrying a Protestant Fellowship it is an invalid marriage. Again, nothing against the guy, but it is what it is.
We’ve tried and tried to bring her back but nothing happens. We’ve tried apologetics; we’ve talked and reasoned with her til we were blue in the face and still nothing. When I joined the Knights of Columbus, I had a mini-reconversion experience. So in light of that, Ive started taking interest in theology. When I told my sister she said, “oh, that’s cool. Now you can learn why we do what we do and you can decide for yourself if you really need to do it or not.” When she said that I thought, “wait…what!!?!” So that is as close as a reason I’ll ever get for her reason for leaving. I guess she felt stifled or something. I get what she means though, to an extent. For example, you don’t HAVE to say the Rosary daily, but it is encouraged. I get that part of it. But there are things that really are “no if’s, and’s, or but’s”. The whole thing is a big mess. In all honesty the only thing to do is hope and pray. It really is in His hands now.

Anyway, I told y’all that in order to tell y’all this:

As is common when people get married (properly or otherwise), you gain another family. You have the other family over for dinner, they have you over to parties, it becomes a sense of unity. The guy’s parents are Protestants as well. Nothing against them, they are really nice, well-educated, very smart and strong in their faith (even if it is Protestant faith), but they are good people. However, Protestants are still Protestants. So even though I want to show them courtesy and respect as we should do for anyone regardless of creed…I still can’t help but think that by doing so for them, Im doing the same for all heretics. In other words if the Inquisition were still around, both of our families would be in hot water.

What Im trying to say is, even though they are good people, do I still need to show caution and maybe rejection even at the risk of alienating them?

Or do I show them courtesy and respect as we are called to do, and still treat them as friends of the family in light of the situation, (though complex and unsettling as the situation may be)?

Do I run from them like the plagues? Or do I welcome them with open arms?
^
these last two questions also go fro any Protestant in general, not just the guy’s parents.

 
Stop judging them.

Kill em with kindness and agape them.

open arms.
 
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