How should I handle this?

[OneAugustKnight]

My friend please do not take offence at my first comment. Grandpa used to say that “when we look for trouble we are more likely to find it.”

What was your motive for going to a non-Catholic Bible study? To make converts? Seems to me not the right time or group.

You might have asked “what did Jesus teach us about charity?” or Why do you say "Catholics don’t pray outloud? Mass is largly a vocal prayer, and within Mass we recite the Lords Prayer out loud.

Did the other members KNOW that you are a practicing Catholic? If so, then you must speak up in defense of our faith. If you are unwilling or unable to do that; then you should avoid such situations.

Love and prayers,
Pat

My motives for going to a non-Catholic Bible study are:

1. To build friendships. Several women who attend have children that are the same age as mine, some of them also homeschool and live in my neighborhood.
2. To help them grow in their knowledge and love of Christ and the Gospel. I am not trying to win converts like trophies, but sharing Catholic insight about the life of Christ in areas where they can understand and accept it helps them grow in faith and love. I want to help them to be the best Christians they can be. I know I can’t convert them, I can’t even convert my own husband. I have been a Catholic for 3 years and haven’t brought even one person into the Church (except the 4 I gave birth to).

They do listen to me explain things like sin and virtue, the Bible, what Christ is like, Christian living, lots of stuff. The ones that have never been Catholic are very nice and have a lot of questions about Catholicism privately. Two of them are interested in going to Adoration with me. It’s the former Catholics that make the jokes, and complain about not feeling accepted or loved in the Church. I think that the cradle Protestants just laugh at the jokes to make the lapsed Catholics feel good and they also like to hear that their church is “better” than the Catholic Church.

1. For mortification and spiritual growth. If I can discipline myself to act charitably when I am insulted then I can be a better witness to the Catholic Faith. It helps me grow in humility when I am insulted or criticized. If they call Catholics stupid or say they don’t know the Bible I study more and buy educational materials for other Catholics. If they say we don’t love Christ or know how to pray, I pray more and harder. If they say we don’t accept people or love our neighbor, I try to do that more.

I feel like I am walking a fine line here. I don’t want to be like St Peter when he denied Christ, but my priest also warned me not to be like Peter when he cut off the soldier’s ear. Perhaps I will speak with the pastor’s wife. She is a fundamentalist and doesn’t understand Catholicism, but she doesn’t like anti-Catholic rhetoric and treats me with respect. She probably wishes I would join her church but I wish she would join mine. I don’t want to humiliate the Protestants because I don’t think they are bad people. I just want to lovingly point out that their lack of charity towards Catholics reflects poorly on themselves and their faith. They do the same thing to Catholics that secular society does to evangelicals.

 

[rebecca123]

To be honest, I think it’s great what you’re doing. I was a protestant for so many years and during that time was always drawn toward Catholicism, but never had anyone approach me about things like the eucharist, Marion devotion, sacraments or basic theology of the church. Of course, I wasn’t actively seeking out to learn more at that time, but it sure would’ve been nice to have come across a Catholic like you.

 

[Pregustator]

What should I have said? I got angry and didn’t say anything.

You did the right thing: you said nothing.

When one is on the “turf”, so to speak, of another faith, one has no right to go getting into arguments about his own religion. Somebody made a frank comment about his or her experience of Catholicism in the security of his or her own religion’s enclave, and they have the right to express themselves frankly in such a setting.

Just leave it alone. If you can’t abide it, join a Catholic Bible study. To be honest, there are few things more tiresome than someone who joins a group sponsored by another faith for the express purpose of being contrary. It serves no purpose but to irritate people. It’s a bad way to try to evangelize.

Perhaps I’ve got the wrong end of the stick with respect to your reasons for attending a Protestant Bible study to begin with, but I’ve seen people (both Catholics and Protestants) who try to convert people this way, and there’s just nothing at all salient about that method. Persons who do that manage only to make a total nuisance of themselves.

People who attend a Bible study group in a Protestant setting don’t go there expecting to be peppered by Roman Catholic references, and they expect to be in a setting where they can be quite free to discuss what they feel are the faults and errors of other religions…just as we Catholics do in these forums, for example. If a Protestant joins this discussion community, he shouldn’t get his feathers ruffled if he comes across comments that skewer Martin Luther, or Henry VIII, or Pentecostalism, &c. If he’s got a shred of sense, he’ll expect to encounter, here, plenty of remarks that are anti-Protestant in character.

So, if you’re going to insist upon presenting yourself to engage in a Protestant exercise in a Protestant setting, don’t be surprised or offended in you hear something critical of Catholicism. And if you do, you have no business saying a word about it.

 

[qui_est_ce]

So, if you’re going to insist upon presenting yourself to engage in a Protestant exercise in a Protestant setting, don’t be surprised or offended in you hear something critical of Catholicism. And if you do, you have no business saying a word about it.

I disagree. A Bible study is for studying the Bible. As soon as they find out you’re Catholic, they start peppering the study with anti-Catholic lies. It’s a distraction to the purpose of the meeting. They should stick to the Bible.

I have friends who do an interfaith Bible study (BSAF??). They do not side-track the study to attack Catholics. When one is attacked with false accusation, one has the duty defend oneself.

 

[TimothyH]

This week at my friends’ protestant Bible study I ran into some comments I wasn’t prepared for. A woman made a joke that she didn’t know how to pray aloud because she was Catholic and everyone laughed. Then later a couple of people complained that they tried to be Catholic, but that Catholics were too judgmental and not accepting, especially of divorced people. What should I have said? I got angry and didn’t say anything.

It is an opportunity to witness to the Catholic faith, but only if you have a very thick skin and have some knowledge of Catholic doctrine and the biblical basis for it.

If you do stay, state very politely that you are Catholic and ask that they don’t make generalizations or jokes about the Catholic faith. Then smile and say, “Would you be so kind as to pass me a coaster for my glass?”

Politeley refute every one of their jokes, misstatements and gneralizations about how Catholics behave and mistaken beliefs about what Catholics are taught and believe. Ask them not to tell you that Catholics believe something which they actually don’t believe or that the Chruch teaches something which it in fact does not. Lay the ground rules early one and they’ll get the picture and start asking, “What does your Church teach” after a while. For many, it will be the first time they have every heard Catholic beliefs from Catholic sources.

Be warned though, you are likely to be taught that Baptism doesn’t really do anything, that Jesus was only speaking symbolically when he said we should chew his flesh, and that the Bible, and not the Church, is the sole authority on matters of faith and morals.

Unless you live way out in yonder where Catholic Churches are few, you can probably do much better.

-Tim-

 

[Busymom1]

Okay, I’m kind of in the same boat as you. I’ve been going to a Protestant women’s “Bible” study for some 12 years now. Have to say though… I was a Protestant when I started in the group but was looking into the Catholic Church. The longer I stayed in that Protestant Bible study, the more Catholic I became! : D It made me look up things and study more – why do Catholics believe that – why do Protestants belive that? And when you are honestly searching, then the truth will manifest itself! Time to come home! Time to start swimming!

My group may be like your group, although called a “Bible” study, over the years it’s also been a “life studies” from a Christian perspective. We were all mothers with young children at the beginning and we read and discussed books that were written from a Christian background about raising children, relationships with our husbands, keeping a home, being a good example, friendships, etc. Of course there were always lots of Biblical references to look up, but generally there were good discussions, lots of food, and a chance to be with other ladies at the same point in life as me. Over the course of those years I’ve made some wonderful friends and had some deep and sincere theological discussions. Sometimes the discussions would be at the meetings, sometimes privately over a cup of coffee. At times though, there have been ladies that joined that would make anti-Catholic remarks. What I usually found was that they were either fallen away Catholics, or had attended Catholic schools, or had someone they had a personal beef with that was Catholic. Generally the fully Protestant ladies in the group were willing to listen to me or would ask questions concerning the Catholic viewpoint. Strange how those anti-Catholics would usually drop out after awhile, ha.

I feel that I’ve made a difference in the goup. For example, one lady told the group that she had been baptized as an infant (in a Protestant denomination) but that now she guess she had to be baptized again -to do it for real. I talked with her and went home and found and researched everything I could about baptism and infant baptism and then talked with her again. It changed her whole understanding of baptism. Another occasion was because of a book we studied about Biblical women; there was a chapter on the Blessed Mother, and it was not a good chapter. The leader of the group (lay person) came and apologized profusely to me saying that they didn’t realize that chapter was written up that way when they selected the book. They then gave me an entire meeting to share about our Blessed Mother. Not only do I hope that I enlightened them, but all the studying and researching I did to get ready for that presentation really broadened and strenghtened my own faith and understanding.

So, my advice is to carefully consider the group with whom you are studying, and how secure you are in your own Catholic faith. Is the group bringing you down? Or is it just a few unpleasant folks? Is this inspiring you to study and learn more of your own faith? Are these people open to listening to you and value what you say? I don’t know how many times over the years that I’ve heard, “Wow! I didn’t know the Catholic Church taught that!” or how about, “Hmm, that makes sense, I’ll have to think about what you just said.” If only a few people are dragging you down, then I’d deal with it as honestly and graciously as you can (and give them a few relevant CD’s), let them know that their words are hurtful and move on. If much of the group is hostile, then it might be time to find more fruitful ground.

 

[Skipper350]

Reminds me of a story…

One night, many years ago, I was invited to come by a guy’s apartment for a beer after work. The guy was a customer, nice enough, but not someone I knew well. I decided to do it, mostly out of pity, thinking here was a nice guy who didn’t have many friends in the area and could use a visit. I didn’t see what was coming.

I walked into his place and was surprised to see four or five people, men and women, standing around as if having a party and expecting me. They waited ten minutes before working God into the conversation. I quickly realized I was surrounded by members of a group known for its “door-to-door” evangelism. Uh oh…

They came out and asked if I was Catrholic, then started to point out all the beliefs and/or doctrines which were false in their opinion. I almost left. But I like to think the Holy Spirit intervened, as I calmly began to argue each claim, even finding Scripture deep down in my memory banks where needed. I was never into Bible study, so this knowledge was coming from Mass and Sunday school many years previous.

After a while, I decided to take off, but was pleased to have held my own and even left on half-way decent terms with them. They never came close to causing me doubt and I actually felt sorry for them.

Very different situation from yours; I was ambushed! I guess my point is sometimes you can do all right with a deep breath and a little Holy Help.

As for that study group? Awesome intentions but I would skip it if it looks like you are seen as the Catholic punching bag.

I’m currently trying to prepare and pray for potential Protestant issues I may encounter. I have a few beloved Lutheran inlaws and a Fundementalist brother I worry about. I’m gonna pray the Rosary for them a lot before starting any discussions. I think the Blessed Mother will soften them up for me!

Good luck and may the Lord be with you!

 

[horselvr]

Skipper: Hahaha!

That story is without a doubt the best chuckle I have had so far this morning. That is the very same thing as an intervention for an alcoholic or a drug addict. Door-to-door" evangelism! Too funny honestly.

I tip my hat to you for remembering the bible teachings that you learned through Mass and Sunday School. Very impressive.

 

[Joannm]

I may get blasted for this but I have a bit of a problem with simply taking a book out of the Adoration chapel. Yes, the book might not in agreement with Catholic teaching, but, it belongs to someone. It could have been left behind and the person could be looking for it. Someone could have left it there for another person who was coming in later. In a very real sense, you stole it. It was not yours and you took it. What did you do with it?

I would have notified that pastor that there was a book in the chapel that goes against Catholic teaching and let him address it. Even if you brought it to him and perhaps left a note that a book (you don’t have to mention the title) was found and that the pastor has it, would have been a better thing to do. This way if the person did come looking for it the pastor could have spoken to him or her about the book.

 

[OneAugustKnight]

I may get blasted for this but I have a bit of a problem with simply taking a book out of the Adoration chapel. Yes, the book might not in agreement with Catholic teaching, but, it belongs to someone. It could have been left behind and the person could be looking for it. Someone could have left it there for another person who was coming in later. In a very real sense, you stole it. It was not yours and you took it. What did you do with it?

I would have notified that pastor that there was a book in the chapel that goes against Catholic teaching and let him address it. Even if you brought it to him and perhaps left a note that a book (you don’t have to mention the title) was found and that the pastor has it, would have been a better thing to do. This way if the person did come looking for it the pastor could have spoken to him or her about the book.

I brought it to the deacon the next day to discuss it with him, gave him the book and he said they would just set it aside because that didn’t need to be there.

 

[Joannm]

I brought it to the deacon the next day to discuss it with him, gave him the book and he said they would just set it aside because that didn’t need to be there.

Thank you for clearing that up. This was the right action to take.

 

[Paganus]

This week at my friends’ protestant Bible study I ran into some comments I wasn’t prepared for. A woman made a joke that she didn’t know how to pray aloud because she was Catholic and everyone laughed.

Opportunity knocks. A fellow Catholic? Perfect time to mention that you are Catholic too and would be happy to show her what she missed in RCIA.

Then later a couple of people complained that they tried to be Catholic, but that Catholics were too judgmental and not accepting, especially of divorced people. What should I have said? I got angry and didn’t say anything.

Big opportunity. Many "ex"Catholics are nice people who are not certain what to do after their civil divorce. I have met many who were abandoned by their spouse, then felt abandoned by their Church.

If there is a local Catholic outreach for divorced people in your area, perhaps a group that meets at a local parish, you might consider making their contact information available at the next meeting. Maybe someone is hurting and doesn’t know where to turn.

I like your idea of participating in Protestant bible studies. :bible1: We should have more outreach to these communities.

 

[PJM]

=OneAugustKnight;6980353]This week at my friends’ protestant Bible study I ran into some comments I wasn’t prepared for. A woman made a joke that she didn’t know how to pray aloud because she was Catholic and everyone laughed. Then later a couple of people complained that they tried to be Catholic, but that Catholics were too judgmental and not accepting, especially of divorced people. What should I have said? I got angry and didn’t say anything.

Also I found a copy of a book by Elaine Pagels in the Adoration Chapel so I took it out. Is that appropriate reading material for the Adoration Chapel? I didn’t think so.

On first reflection one might ask if IN [there] deds thy were [are] Christians?

The first person, wishing to be the center of attention at the expense of charity:

It is a common FACT that “The Lords prayer” is recited outloud at EVERY CATHOLIC MASS!

Mark.12: 31 " The second is this, [again JESUS Speaking] `You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these."

The issue of divorce ought to be taken by them too Jesus, who’s Law and Command it is…

**Matt 5: 32-33 **“It was also said, `Whoever divorces his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce.’ But I [JESUS] say to you that every one who divorces his wife, except on the ground of unchastity, makes her an adulteress; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.”

Is this an example of yet another “bible church” either not knowing or ignoring the Bible?

Love and prayers,
Pat

 

[OneAugustKnight]

On first reflection one might ask if IN [there] deds thy were [are] Christians?

The first person, wishing to be the center of attention at the expense of charity:

It is a common FACT that “The Lords prayer” is recited outloud at EVERY CATHOLIC MASS!

Mark.12: 31 " The second is this, [again JESUS Speaking] `You shall love your neighbor as yourself.’ There is no other commandment greater than these."

The issue of divorce ought to be taken by them too Jesus, who’s Law and Command it is…

**Matt 5: 32-33 **“It was also said, `Whoever divorces his wife, let him give her a certificate of divorce.’ But I [JESUS] say to you that every one who divorces his wife, except on the ground of unchastity, makes her an adulteress; and whoever marries a divorced woman commits adultery.”

Is this an example of yet another “bible church” either not knowing or ignoring the Bible?

Love and prayers,
Pat

Oddly, they also once said the “Our Father” is just a generic prayer if you didn’t real feel it as you were praying it and that Jesus just said it as an example, not meaning we should actually pray it. Honestly I don’t think they know what the Bible means and so they have a Bible study to try to figure it out. I feel bad for them because it seems like they really want to be good Christians and they want to love Jesus and have personal relationship with him. There is just some sort of obstacle there, I wish I could help.

 

[PJM]

=OneAugustKnight;7091570]Oddly, they also once said the “Our Father” is just a generic prayer if you didn’t real feel it as you were praying it and that Jesus just said it as an example, not meaning we should actually pray it. Honestly I don’t think they know what the Bible means and so they have a Bible study to try to figure it out. I feel bad for them because it seems like they really want to be good Christians and they want to love Jesus and have personal relationship with him. There is just some sort of obstacle there, I wish I could help.

Some of us regularlly get into dificulties with our Brehern because we quote LARGE numbers of non-Catholic sects as validation for God’s allowing so many, soooo much freedom in there choices of faith practice. And indeed they not only DO NOT know what the Bible say’s, I fear that God does NOT permit them to know His truths in total.

The Bible itself [and retained in the KJ Bible] tends to support this positon.

Here are a few examples that are clear in there message, yet nearly always ignored in there own persoanl search for understanding.

2Tim.3 Verses 15 to 17: “and how from childhood you have been acquainted with the sacred writings which are able to instruct you for salvation through faith in Christ Jesus. All scripture is inspired by God and profitable for teaching, for reproof, for correction, and for training in righteousness, that the man of God may be complete, equipped for every good work”

2nd. Peter Chapter One verse 20** “First of all you must understand this, that no prophecy of scripture is a matter of one’s own interpretation, because no prophecy ever came by the impulse of man, but men moved by the Holy Spirit spoke from God. “**

Psalm 30 : 6 “Do not add to his words, lest he rebuke you, and you be found a liar.”

2 Peter 3: 14 –17 14 Therefore, beloved, since you wait for these, be zealous to be found by him without spot or blemish, and at peace. And count the forbearance of our Lord as salvation. So also our beloved brother Paul wrote to you according to the wisdom given him, speaking of this as he does in all his letters. There are some things in them hard to understand, which the ignorant and unstable twist to their own destruction, as they do the other scriptures. You therefore, beloved, knowing this beforehand, beware lest you be carried away with the error of lawless men and lose your own stability. But grow in the grace and knowledge of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ. To him be the glory both now and to the day of eternity. Amen.

**1Tim.3: 15 “**if I am delayed, you may know how one ought to behave in the household of God, [SINGULAR] which is the church [SINGULAR] of the living God, the pillar and bulwark of the truth.” [SINGULAR] FYI: The CC was thee only Christian Church in existence when this was written an included in the God Insoired Bible.

If these folks don’t listen to the very God they profess, then we ought not too surpried that thy don’t listen to us either.

But our job is in charity to contimue to share the truth. Faith and Understanding are GIFTS from God. We do our “job” and leave it in His loving care.

Love and prayers,
Pat

 

[StevenFrancis]

This week at my friends’ protestant Bible study I ran into some comments I wasn’t prepared for. A woman made a joke that she didn’t know how to pray aloud because she was Catholic and everyone laughed. Then later a couple of people complained that they tried to be Catholic, but that Catholics were too judgmental and not accepting, especially of divorced people. What should I have said? I got angry and didn’t say anything.

Also I found a copy of a book by Elaine Pagels in the Adoration Chapel so I took it out. Is that appropriate reading material for the Adoration Chapel? I didn’t think so.

I’m afraid I’m ignorant of who Elain Pagels is. I’ll look it up. Must be somebody anti-Catholic I’m guessing? But to back up a bit, your friends’ Protestant Church had an adoration chapel?

 

[OneAugustKnight]

I’m afraid I’m ignorant of who Elain Pagels is. I’ll look it up. Must be somebody anti-Catholic I’m guessing? But to back up a bit, your friends’ Protestant Church had an adoration chapel?

No, I was talking about the Adoration Chapel at my parish. Elaine Pagels is very into the gnostic gospels and thinks St Paul was a gnostic Christian. I think she is a professor of theology at Harvard.

 

[Gethsemane]

I thought I’d chime in here with some support!

I’m not one to go to physical Bible studies, but I do browse videos on YouTube which pertain to exposing televangelists for the wolves in sheepskin they are. Don’t get me wrong, there are some albeit a small number of genuine televangelists that really do preach the Truth to the fullest that their Protestantism will allow, but many are so clearly in it for the lucrative business and resulting funds. Why, just today I was watching Kenneth Copeland and found myself yelling at the tv when he said Jesus died on the Cross so that we could be rich. (in the financial sense)

Anyways, I’ve been “debating” everyday for going on two weeks now with a Protestant who follows the same teaching that Copeland gives. (Prosperity Gospel/Word Faith/Health and Wealth Gospel) After we moved away from the “prosperity” verses in the Bible this person seems to not know much else, especially not regarding history. The most shocking thing so far is that he denies that Christ was God.

Eventually we moved on to the topic of Catholicism and how “man-made” and “unbiblical” it is, and this fellow brother in Christ admitted that he was using an anti-Catholic site to “learn” what Catholics believe. The most annoying aspect that I find with some of our Protestant brethren [definately not all] is that they love asking, “Where is the word Catholic/Pope/etc in the Bible?” This particular brother insists that if Jesus was really a Catholic, then he would have said so.

I was meditating on Scripture a few nights ago and memorised a particular verse that may help you: “Wait for the Lord. Be strong, and let your heart take courage. Wait for the Lord.” Psalm 27:14

I would suggest that you pray the Rosary before, after, and during any breaks that you may have. I was getting kind of frusterated with our brother and the Spirit moved me to pick up the Rosary and pray while responding. It’s kept me calm, logical, charitable and Our Mother has helped with the task by bringing Scriptures to mind or resources I used in the past. I would also suggest that when -if at all- you have that urge to scream and shake the Truth into 'em, that you quietly excuse yourself for a few moments, head to the bathroom or some place quiet and private and say the Rosary recalling Christ’s Passion and how from the Cross he said, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they are doing.”

Grace be unto you and peace be multiplied!

Nicole

 

[mangy_dog]

This week at my friends’ protestant Bible study I ran into some comments I wasn’t prepared for. A woman made a joke that she didn’t know how to pray aloud because she was Catholic and everyone laughed. Then later a couple of people complained that they tried to be Catholic, but that Catholics were too judgmental and not accepting, especially of divorced people. What should I have said? I got angry and didn’t say anything.

Also I found a copy of a book by Elaine Pagels in the Adoration Chapel so I took it out. Is that appropriate reading material for the Adoration Chapel? I didn’t think so.

The mistakes of uninformed Catholics and the disinformation of protestant christians can be a test of ones patience. And I’m sure that Lucifer is active in keeping it that way.

First of all - I’ve been where you are now and in hind-sight (20/20) I’ve learned (and rehearsed in my mind) the answers and proper reactions to these situations.

I’ve become quite adept at dealing with clumsy catholic comments and with disinformed protestants.

Don’t let one instance pass - immediate interject by saying something like, " actually the correct answer is" or " that’s not very accurate" or I simply blurt out the right answer which at once, turns heads and quites the comments and opens the ears.

You don’t have to be a catholic theologian to affirm the basic catholic beliefs.

Above all - don’t loose your cool. Be patient. An ignorant statement or mistaken information is often times a request for the truth.

Be at peace my friend.

 

[PJM]

=Gethsemane;7096444]I thought I’d chime in here with some support!

I’m not one to go to physical Bible studies, but I do browse videos on YouTube which pertain to exposing televangelists for the wolves in sheepskin they are. Don’t get me wrong, there are some albeit a small number of genuine televangelists that really do preach the Truth to the fullest that their Protestantism will allow, but many are so clearly in it for the lucrative business and resulting funds. Why, just today I was watching Kenneth Copeland and found myself yelling at the tv when he said Jesus died on the Cross so that we could be rich. (in the financial sense)

Anyways, I’ve been “debating” everyday for going on two weeks now with a Protestant who follows the same teaching that Copeland gives. (Prosperity Gospel/Word Faith/Health and Wealth Gospel) After we moved away from the “prosperity” verses in the Bible this person seems to not know much else, especially not regarding history. The most shocking thing so far is that he denies that Christ was God.

Eventually we moved on to the topic of Catholicism and how “man-made” and “unbiblical” it is, and this fellow brother in Christ admitted that he was using an anti-Catholic site to “learn” what Catholics believe. The most annoying aspect that I find with some of our Protestant brethren [definately not all] is that they love asking, “Where is the word Catholic/Pope/etc in the Bible?” This particular brother insists that if Jesus was really a Catholic, then he would have said so.
I was meditating on Scripture a few nights ago and memorised a particular verse that may help you: “Wait for the Lord. Be strong, and let your heart take courage. Wait for the Lord.” Psalm 27:14

I would suggest that you pray the Rosary before, after, and during any breaks that you may have. I was getting kind of frusterated with our brother and the Spirit moved me to pick up the Rosary and pray while responding. It’s kept me calm, logical, charitable and Our Mother has helped with the task by bringing Scriptures to mind or resources I used in the past. I would also suggest that when -if at all- you have that urge to scream and shake the Truth into 'em, that you quietly excuse yourself for a few moments, head to the bathroom or some place quiet and private and say the Rosary recalling Christ’s Passion and how from the Cross he said, “Father, forgive them, for they know not what they are doing.”

Grace be unto you and peace be multiplied!

Nicole

Seems to me that its just as impossible to find “Catholic” in the Bible as it is “Protestant.”

OH!, and by the way where in the Bible does it state that Jesus wants THOUSANDS of churches with beliefs DIFFERENT than what He actually taught? References to "One Church can be found in excess of 100 times.

Love and prayers,
Pat