How significant was Socrates?

[spockrates]

Help me, Mr Spock. There is a tear in the space-time continuum, some kind of wormhole perhaps.

I remember posting to you. Yesterday, I think it was yesterday.

I responded to your point about our personal sins don’t just have consequences for us. I remember rambling on about our inheritance and how we might not have done any better than our ancestors did obeying God.

This obviously got lost in space and never made it to your side of the wormhole.

Then I answered your question about cannibalism, not a very good answer, but that also got lost.

Then I remember answering your question about how should we carry on. Oh, and what is most right to do in every situation, I tried to answer that too.

But those too disappeared, lost without trace.

It seems the only thing to make it to your side of the rupture was either me testifying, apropos of nothing, that I too have three dogs, or a cartoon I like concerning how the internet hides our identity, which features two dogs.

The only thing to complete the journey from you to me is the above post (I’d say all your guesses are good to go btw) and a disturbing but lovable quadruped that is half dog, half wolf, currently running excitedly in circles due to its asymmetrical legs.

Oh, and a bowl of petunias just sprang into existence far above my house, only having time to exclaim “oh no, not again” before crashing to the ground.

Please ask Scotty to beam me up.

Yes, it’s a wormhole better than anything encountered in Star Trek, or even Farscape.



I believe I might have the knowledge to help us survive the phenomenom. This apparent rift in space and time seems to have originated here:

forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=11161149&postcount=269

The specific cause, in my estimation is this exchange:

SPOCKRATES: Yes, I can see that. I think it would be easier to get along with my son if he had more self-control and did not tend to lose his temper. But isn’t the moral maxim keep calm and carry on too ambiguous to help one know for certain what moral decisions she must make in each situation? I mean, what if one were to ask, “How should I carry on?” What should our answer be to her question?

INOCENTE: That people look like their pets. I mean we become the objects of our affections, since the more we dwell on something the more it influences us, we cannot be things we never muse on, and we cannot be anything if we just flit about. So by carrying on being calm she practices the art of tranquility and being clear headed, and so becomes like them [her pets].

Hence, my asking how keeping calm and carrying on is the same as becoming like ones own pet dog.

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That being said, I’m asking an extremely simple question: What do the words carry on mean in the phrase keep calm and carry on?

 

[spockrates]

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I meant to ask if the author gives the reason why he believes Socrates held this opinion.**

Without having to read the book again, I can’t say with certainty. I do believe he makes the point somewhere that Socrates learns that Jesus, not he, is the wisest of men. That, I suppose, is why knowledge of the good does not guarantee doing the good. We are frail sinners who need grace from on high to resist sin and turn our will into “Thy will be done.”

I’m thinking the opinion that Socrates believed a wise man cannot sin is an incorrect one. Would you like to know why?

 

[spockrates]

That is, I’m thinking Socrates never held that opinion. Perhaps starting another discussion thread is appropriate.

 

[inocente]

Yes, it’s a wormhole better than anything encountered in Star Trek, or even Farscape.



I believe I might have the knowledge to help us survive the phenomenom. This apparent rift in space and time seems to have originated here:

forums.catholic-questions.org/showpost.php?p=11161149&postcount=269

The specific cause, in my estimation is this exchange:

SPOCKRATES: Yes, I can see that. I think it would be easier to get along with my son if he had more self-control and did not tend to lose his temper. But isn’t the moral maxim keep calm and carry on too ambiguous to help one know for certain what moral decisions she must make in each situation? I mean, what if one were to ask, “How should I carry on?” What should our answer be to her question?

INOCENTE: That people look like their pets. I mean we become the objects of our affections, since the more we dwell on something the more it influences us, we cannot be things we never muse on, and we cannot be anything if we just flit about. So by carrying on being calm she practices the art of tranquility and being clear headed, and so becomes like them [her pets].

Hence, my asking how keeping calm and carrying on is the same as becoming like ones own pet dog.

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That being said, I’m asking an extremely simple question: What do the words carry on mean in the phrase keep calm and carry on?

By way of illustration let me give an opposite example, where continuity is lost:

inocente was disconcerted when, out of the blue, spockates decided he would no longer carry on a conversation about personal sins having consequences for others, and various other topics, and instead abruptly changed the subject to whether dogs practice a philosophy of calm.

 

[spockrates]

By way of illustration let me give an opposite example, where continuity is lost:

inocente was disconcerted when, out of the blue, spockates decided he would no longer carry on a conversation about personal sins having consequences for others, and various other topics, and instead abruptly changed the subject to whether dogs practice a philosophy of calm.

It was good fun thinking this through with you, my friend!

Feel free to keep calm and carry on the conversation here, if you want:

forums.catholic-questions.org/showthread.php?t=820659

If not, I look forward to talking with you next time.