How specific do you need to be in confession?

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Needing a general guide, if you will. How specific does one need to be? and how specific is TOO specific? Must everything be numbered? do you need to include who? hIf you confess to taking the lords name in vain, do you need to say exactly how you said it? do you need to tell your decepton? Or if a straight man , for example confesses watching porn, must he specify if it had additonal images of imorality, such as adulter or lesbianism?
 
Needing a general guide, if you will. How specific does one need to be? and how specific is TOO specific? Must everything be numbered? do you need to include who? hIf you confess to taking the lords name in vain, do you need to say exactly how you said it? do you need to tell your decepton? Or if a straight man , for example confesses watching porn, must he specify if it had additonal images of imorality, such as adulter or lesbianism?
What you need is to confess that you are a sinner.
That you did not do what God wanted you to do.
That you sinned through words and deeds.
That you are sorry for what you have done and regret it and want to change ways.
That you want to acknowleedge that Go is the Almighty God, that you are nothing, that you should not have sinned and that you are sorry for what you have done to somebody who was so good to you and you were so bad to Him.
That you want to be better and better and better. that you want to be perfect as God is and as it was recomended by His Son, Jesus Christ.
that you will do your best to sin no more.

That is how specific you should be.

Now, the details of the menu? That is not what matters most. If you are an alcoholic, does it matter if you got drunk 34 times or 35 times?
 
Generally you need to confess mortal sins in number and kind, and any factors that aggravate (make worse) the sin.

So, for example, you might say “I took the Lord’s name in vain 5 times”.

If you don’t know exactly how many times, you say something more general like “I took the Lord’s name in vain several times since my last confession”.

If there are other factors involved that you think are relevant, then say so too, such as “I took the Lord’s name in vain several times in front of my children”.

Same principle whatever the sin. Take pornography, you might say “I watched porn five times”, or “I have developed a bad habit of watching porn; many times since my last confession”, or “I regularly watch porn and masturbate”. I don’t think the type of porn is very relevant (since it’s all bad), unless perhaps it involves minors or other innocents.

In all matters, let the priest help you through. Confession is a conversation, so as long as you’re not trying to withhold something relevant, be as specific as you feel you need to be and the priest will press you if he needs more details (or tell you to stop if you’re too graphic).

Keep in mind that one of the benefits of confession is getting the sin off your chest, so to speak. By speaking it to another person, you begin to release the guilt and shame building up inside. When the priest gives the absolution, the weight comes off. So, the more you are open with your sins, the greater the relief of guilt you may feel (psychologically speaking; the absolution itself would be the same).
 
Needing a general guide, if you will. How specific does one need to be? and how specific is TOO specific? Must everything be numbered? do you need to include who? hIf you confess to taking the lords name in vain, do you need to say exactly how you said it? do you need to tell your decepton? Or if a straight man , for example confesses watching porn, must he specify if it had additonal images of imorality, such as adulter or lesbianism?
Hi Seeker,

Please listen to this it is very entertaining and I think answers most of your questions…

catholicity.com/cds/confession.html
 
Needing a general guide, if you will. How specific does one need to be? and how specific is TOO specific? Must everything be numbered? do you need to include who? hIf you confess to taking the lords name in vain, do you need to say exactly how you said it? do you need to tell your decepton? Or if a straight man , for example confesses watching porn, must he specify if it had additonal images of imorality, such as adulter or lesbianism?
The confessing person’s own feelings help him answer this question.

As a Catholic lawyer, I would encourage fallen-away clients to return to the Church, beginning with confession. They would ask me what sins to confess, because they had so many!

I told them, “Do you remember when you would go to church on Saturdays for confession when you were young, and you would sit and do your examination of conscience, and when there were sins which made you want to hide under the pew, and you were sorely tempted to bury them in those ridiculous juvenile sin-counting lists – ‘I lied 3 times, I disobeyed my parents 4 times,’ etc. Well, THOSE are the sins where you have to go into some detail, enough to explain to the priest why they fill you with shame. If you don’t, your confession is probably not valid.”

The priest is the representative of God and man for purposes of exposing your guilt. If you don’t expose your guilt – if you walk out of that confession happy that your sin is still hidden to a critical extent – it’s probably not valid, and the priest’s act of absolution was probably ineffective.

Just a quick recommendation o my fellow Catholics, here: Do you still abide by that “Bless-me-Father-for-I-have-sinned” structure they taught you in CCD or grade school?

Throw it away. Make your confession more conversational, more real, less stilted. The priest will appreciate it. If your sorrow is sincere, it will make it easier for him to judge that fact. All that is important is that you include the essential material: The time since your last confession; the juicy stuff" on the sins that make you want to hide under the pew; no minimization as to frequency or consequences – the priest needs to know if you have a larger problem – and the Act of Contrition prayer.

Respecting “consequences,” a story: A Catholic client came to me once and said that she had fooled around wildly while married; and that, on the advice of her lawyer, to gain control of her angry husband in the divorce case, she had twice falsely testified that her husband was guilty of touching their infant daughter’s personal region, sending him to prison twice. She said, “He was perfectly innocent.”

Does “Bless me Father for I have sinned; I lied one time” cover that?

No! Just saying, “I lied,” is really another lie!
 
We are* obliged* to confess all mortal sins in number and kind (and circumstance that changes things…such as it was your brother you murdered).

The numbers do matter --but they depend on what we know from our examine–one may have to approximate. If one knows it was 3 times one says so…if one knows it was around 5-6 well one says so…if what one knows is that it was around 2-3 times a month for the last year one says so…it may be that one needs to say …“many times”…or alot…or a few times. Our memory is limited etc…we are not Mr. Spock.

As for the kind the Priest can help one. Here is something from Jimmy Akin of Catholic Answers fame that can be helpful: jimmyakin.com/2007/03/specific_confes.html

Now can those who struggle with scrupulosity …with scruples can fret unnecessarily on these sorts of things so I urge them to have a regular confessor and seek his direction in their case.
 
Just a quick recommendation o my fellow Catholics, here: Do you still abide by that “Bless-me-Father-for-I-have-sinned” structure they taught you in CCD or grade school?

Throw it away. Make your confession more conversational, more real, less stilted. The priest will appreciate it. If your sorrow is sincere, it will make it easier for him to judge that fact. All that is important is that you include the essential material: The time since your last confession; the juicy stuff" on the sins that make you want to hide under the pew; no minimization as to frequency or consequences – the priest needs to know if you have a larger problem – and the Act of Contrition prayer.
I still follow it largely and I’ll explain why.

The formal structure allows me to focus on my examination of conscience and the sins that I intend to confess, rather than worry about how I might go about confessing them. I don’t need to worry about an “icebreaker”, as I already have one to use (“bless me etc”). I want to make sure that I have in my head what sins I want to address and what details I specifically want to go in to. If there are sins that I want to have a conversation regarding, I will discuss the sins that I want to directly confess first and then go on to the conversation. That way, I get out everything I want to without a conversation going off on a tangent, whereby I might not get back to my train of though.

I love when a confessor engages in discussion and shows their wisdom and experience with regard to my specific sins. But the most important thing is to directly confess the sins that weigh on me, so that comes before any conversation.
 
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