How the liturgy fell apart

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Good article.

Those that believe strongly that it was not possible for Bugnini to be a Freemason should nevertheless question (1) why the lodge fathers praised him for his work so strongly (2) why the current NO sanctuary configuration so closely remembles those of the lodge meetings and (3) why acknowledged Freemasons are no longer excommunicated from the Church.

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Today at Zenit…

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The Church has not changed its ruling on Catholic membership in the Masons, said the regent of the Apostolic Penitentiary.

Bishop Gianfranco Girotti made this statement Thursday at a conference on the topic of Freemasonry held at the St. Bonaventure Pontifical Theological Faculty.

The bishop presided over the congress held in cooperation with the Socio-Religious Research and Information Group of Italy. Officials of Masonic associations and grand masters also took part in the meeting.

Bishop Girotti reminded his listeners that the Church has always criticized the concepts and philosophy of Freemasonry, considering them incompatible with the Catholic faith.

He mentioned the last official reference document, “Declaration on Masonic Associations,” which was signed by the then prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, on Nov. 26, 1983.

The text states that since the principles of Masonic associations “have always been considered irreconcilable with the doctrine of the Church,” membership in them, therefore, “remains forbidden.”

“The faithful who enroll in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive holy Communion,” adds the declaration signed by Cardinal Ratzinger, who is now Benedict XVI.
Father Zbigniew Suchecki, an expert in the subject, quoted number 1374 of the Code of Canon Law, which reads: “Whoever is inscribed in an association that plots against the Church must be punished with a just penalty; whoever promotes or directs that association, must be banned.”

“Masonry’s attempts to express divine truths are based on relativism and do not agree with the principles of the Christian faith,” said the Conventual Franciscan.

Bishop Girotti made reference to the statements of some priests who have declared publicly their membership in Masonry and called for the intervention of “their direct superiors,” not excluding the possibility that “measures of a canonical character might come from the Holy See.”
 
Me neither. Sounds like that might be a good thing. 😉
Depends. These so-called gods have inspired catch phrases, such as “between you and I” and other grammatical (and theological and moral) errors designed to turn over all those nuns in their graves.

Seriously, though, Gods of Wasteland, Fifty Years of Rock ‘n’ Roll by Michael J. Matt, Remnant Press, 2000
 
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Good article.

Those that believe strongly that it was not possible for Bugnini to be a Freemason should nevertheless question (1) why the lodge fathers praised him for his work so strongly (2) why the current NO sanctuary configuration so closely remembles those of the lodge meetings and (3) why acknowledged Freemasons are no longer excommunicated from the Church.

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Today at Zenit…

zenit.org/english/visualizza.phtml?sid=103884
The Church has not changed its ruling on Catholic membership in the Masons, said the regent of the Apostolic Penitentiary.

Bishop Gianfranco Girotti made this statement Thursday at a conference on the topic of Freemasonry held at the St. Bonaventure Pontifical Theological Faculty.

The bishop presided over the congress held in cooperation with the Socio-Religious Research and Information Group of Italy. Officials of Masonic associations and grand masters also took part in the meeting.

Bishop Girotti reminded his listeners that the Church has always criticized the concepts and philosophy of Freemasonry, considering them incompatible with the Catholic faith.

He mentioned the last official reference document, “Declaration on Masonic Associations,” which was signed by the then prefect of the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, Cardinal Joseph Ratzinger, on Nov. 26, 1983.

The text states that since the principles of Masonic associations “have always been considered irreconcilable with the doctrine of the Church,” membership in them, therefore, “remains forbidden.”

“The faithful who enroll in Masonic associations are in a state of grave sin and may not receive holy Communion,” adds the declaration signed by Cardinal Ratzinger, who is now Benedict XVI.
Father Zbigniew Suchecki, an expert in the subject, quoted number 1374 of the Code of Canon Law, which reads: “Whoever is inscribed in an association that plots against the Church must be punished with a just penalty; whoever promotes or directs that association, must be banned.”

“Masonry’s attempts to express divine truths are based on relativism and do not agree with the principles of the Christian faith,” said the Conventual Franciscan.

Bishop Girotti made reference to the statements of some priests who have declared publicly their membership in Masonry and called for the intervention of “their direct superiors,” not excluding the possibility that “measures of a canonical character might come from the Holy See.”

That’s good to know.

Recently a Catholic Radio station ran a commercial for a Masonic hospital in Chicago. While I acknowledged they (and the Shriners) perform a valuable service, nevertheless they hold very anti-Catholic views and I insisted those commercials be pulled.
 
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That’s good to know.

Recently a Catholic Radio station ran a commercial for a Masonic hospital in Chicago. While I acknowledged they (and the Shriners) perform a valuable service, nevertheless they hold very anti-Catholic views and I insisted those commercials be pulled.
Did they pull them?
 
Uxor;1963167:
That’s good to know.

Recently a Catholic Radio station ran a commercial for a Masonic hospital in Chicago. While I acknowledged they (and the Shriners) perform a valuable service, nevertheless they hold very anti-Catholic views and I insisted those commercials be pulled.
Good for you. I was shocked when I read Pope Leo XIII 1878-1903, Inimica Vis on Freemasonry and Custodi di Quella Fede Freemansory…what was happening then is happening now. Another Humanum Genus Freemasonry.
 
I believe that, that God perserved the ancient liturgy.
Actually, I’ve believed that for a long time… God took it out of harm’s way until a suitable time in the future. Meaning until there were enough to appreciate what was lost and attend it with greater appreciation for what it is.
If they would have just did a modification of the TLM, aka “updated”, then it would have been lost completely, like the '65 “mod” is oblivia.
 
Actually, I’ve believed that for a long time… God took it out of harm’s way until a suitable time in the future. Meaning until there were enough to appreciate what was lost and attend it with greater appreciation for what it is.
If they would have just did a modification of the TLM, aka “updated”, then it would have been lost completely, like the '65 “mod” is oblivia.
That’s actually a good point. Kinda reminds me of the video, “What we have lost & the road to restoration”.

Posted here in early January.
 
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