How to act towards an invalidly married Catholic

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Scenario: One has a friend who is almost certainly invalidly married. Both parties to the putative marriage are baptised Catholics, yet they were married in front of a priest who has no faculties from the bishop of the diocese in which they reside. Now given that there is almost certainly lack of canonical form, how ought one to treat the couple?
 
Is the priest a Catholic Priest from another diocese who can marry couples? If so, they’re validly married.
 
Is the priest a Catholic Priest from another diocese who can marry couples? If so, they’re validly married.
No. He was once a priest in good standing, but he has been suspended in the Canon Law sense.

He’s an ‘independent’.
 
Love them.
This.

My sister and her husband have long since fallen away from the Catholic faith.
In fact, the way my sister and I were raised…it’s a miracle I’m a devote Catholic and I don’t consider myself a revert…how can I be a revert when I never actually practiced the faith?

They were married by a JP…yet their marriage is not valid since they are technically both baptized Catholics.

They know virtually nothing about the faith and the fact that, in order for a Catholic couple to be considered married, they must be married in front of a priest.

I pray for them daily and I don’t treat them any differently then any other married couple I know. They have a beautiful son together…and they are more then welcomed over our house to stay whenever they want (and they will be given the guest bedroom, together as I consider them married).

Is this couple practicing Catholics? Do they attend Church together regularly? If so…then you can tell them they need to have their marriage validated in the Church.
If they don’t and they don’t give much attention to Church then don’t bring it up…it might backfire and push them farther away.

Love them and pray for them is the best advice.
 
Loving someone entails desiring the good for that someone. It is always a good to be in communion with the Church, as it is God’s will for every person to be saved, and there is no salvation outside the Church. The question isn’t “should I love this person”, for our charity should be universal. The question is rather “how do I express the truth of the Gospel to this couple?” The fact that they aren’t practicing Catholics, far from being a reason not to evangelize to them, makes them exactly who we SHOULD be seeking to reach with the message of Christ.
 
Out of curiosity, did they realize that the priest had no faculties? Why did they choose him?

It may be possible for somone (the priest?) to apply for their radical sanation.
 
I am puzzled by this question. Shouldn’t we treat everyone with love? Hate the sin, love the sinner. Maybe, I am misunderstanding question here.

I am invalidly married. I have returned to the church. My husband and I are working on annulments. He is not Catholic, but married in church for his first marriage. I was not a practicing Catholic when I married.(both times)

I am caregiver for my elderly mother. We had a deacon coming to the house bringing her communion every week. He treated my husband and I with such love. He prayed for us to have spiritual communion while my mother had physical communion.

As an adult, I did not agree with all of the Catholic teachings. I guess I was a “cafeteria Catholic”. Now, I feel more and believe all of the Catholic faith than I ever have. I think what really led me more to all of the Catholic beliefs is the Eucharistic adoration. I try to go weekly.

My point is to treat them with love. Pray they will have their marriage validated.
 
Out of curiosity, did they realize that the priest had no faculties? Why did they choose him?

It may be possible for somone (the priest?) to apply for their radical sanation.
There are many who do not even know that the Church does not recognize their marriage. When I used to interview couples bringing their child for baptism and see they were married at the catering hall or on beach I question who married them and they say a Catholic priest. Then I delve further. I do know a number of x priests in our area who do rent themselves out. They can’t believe it when I tell them they need a convalidation of their marriage.

When we were planning my daughter’s wedding the caterer asked if we were having the ceremony at the hall too. When I said that we were Catholic and couldn’t have it at the hall he proceeded to tell me of all the Catholics who do get married there and even gave me the name of the “priest.” I recognized the name and told the caterer that while this man was able to conduct civil marriage ceremonies the marriages were invalid in the eyes of the Church. He was shocked! He said the “priest” charges $500 or a 20 minute ceremony, plus they have to pay to have the ceremony on the grounds or in a room at the hall.
 
I am puzzled by this question. Shouldn’t we treat everyone with love? Hate the sin, love the sinner. Maybe, I am misunderstanding question here.

I am invalidly married. I have returned to the church. My husband and I are working on annulments. He is not Catholic, but married in church for his first marriage. I was not a practicing Catholic when I married.(both times)

I am caregiver for my elderly mother. We had a deacon coming to the house bringing her communion every week. He treated my husband and I with such love. He prayed for us to have spiritual communion while my mother had physical communion.

As an adult, I did not agree with all of the Catholic teachings. I guess I was a “cafeteria Catholic”. Now, I feel more and believe all of the Catholic faith than I ever have. I think what really led me more to all of the Catholic beliefs is the Eucharistic adoration. I try to go weekly.

My point is to treat them with love. Pray they will have their marriage validated.
This. I have many married friends who have fallen away from the church and I still love and value and PRAY for them.
 
Out of curiosity, did they realize that the priest had no faculties? Why did they choose him?

It may be possible for somone (the priest?) to apply for their radical sanation.
I suppose in this situation they in good faith believe him to be a Catholic priest with faculties.Or they share his sympathies, as while not with Lefebvre’s group, their priests are at least fellow travellers.

Yes they are free to marry as far as I know.

Thanks for the advice, one and all.
 
I suppose in this situation they in good faith believe him to be a Catholic priest with faculties.
So perhaps you could gently suggest to them that you’ve recently learned that their priest was not in good standing at the time of the wedding and they may want to consider whether they need to discuss with a priest at their local parish how they might address the irregularities that arise from this situation.
 
I suppose in this situation they in good faith believe him to be a Catholic priest with faculties.Or they share his sympathies, as while not with Lefebvre’s group, their priests are at least fellow travellers.

Yes they are free to marry as far as I know.

Thanks for the advice, one and all.
If they were both free to marry, it should be a quick fix. They should call their pastor and tell him the situation, and he will know what to do.
 
I was told by my priest that he does NOT marry a couple, that he only facilitates the marriage. He said that marriage is a sacrament instituted by the couple with the Church as a witness. My priest said it is the only sacrament of the church that is NOT instituted by the priest.
 
I was told by my priest that he does NOT marry a couple, that he only facilitates the marriage. He said that marriage is a sacrament instituted by the couple with the Church as a witness. My priest said it is the only sacrament of the church that is NOT instituted by the priest.
Catholics are bound to follow the laws of the Church in order for their marriages to be valid.
 
I was told by my priest that he does NOT marry a couple, that he only facilitates the marriage. He said that marriage is a sacrament instituted by the couple with the Church as a witness. My priest said it is the only sacrament of the church that is NOT instituted by the priest.
Although this is true, a Catholic is required to be married in the Catholic form, in front of a valid priest or deacon, or to receive a dispensation to be married in a non-Catholic ceremony.
 
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