How to adjust to a celibate marriage

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Ok, not 82.

This causes me to question - and I struggle to be delicate - what motivates your wife to decide if/how to address her condition? A wish for children is not it. A wish for physical marital intimacy is not it. And concern for her husband does not appear to be it either.
 
To answer your question, I believe that she has tried. She has seen her doctor, tried numbing cream. Based on that and research online, she has given up. It is what it is, just have to make the best of it. By starting chats like this I have had several people come forward with possitive outcomes. We will have to find a way to go see a specialist. $$$$
 
Like I said, the OP needs to treat this as if it was his wife’s hand that was paralyzed. She doesn’t get to make the unilateral decision when so much is left unknown.

Also, it’s greatly troubling that his wife is relying on very, very little information from the internet and not on doctors–especially since she won’t try some of the things that the doctor has suggested, like anti-depressants.
 
Also, it’s greatly troubling that his wife is relying on very, very little information from the internet and not on doctors
IMO, her medical source preferences are less of a concern than her offhanded attitude to the relationship impacts. She seems oblivious to them. Or does not care.
 
I think you should pray for acceptance of this situation. The complaint here seems to be only about sex, which is insignificant considering that your wife could have a much more serious condition, such as a terminal illness. Don’t be selfish, be selfless. Adopt and have a wonderful family life together.
Undoubtedly, this would be valid advice were it determined that the health condition is not correctable. The question is - should some minimum effort first be expended on correction, what is that minimum, and who has a say in that?
 
Her only reason to persue second opinions and treatments is for MY sexual pleasure.
Her own sexual pleasure too. And, the fact is, sex is an important part of marriage. I don’t care how much of a saint you are, but if you’re wife is refusing to get treatment for a condition that could be easily cured, this will likely cause resentment down the line.
 
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I think you should pray for acceptance of this situation. The complaint here seems to be only about sex, which is insignificant considering that your wife could have a much more serious condition, such as a terminal illness. Don’t be selfish, be selfless. Adopt and have a wonderful family life together.
Would you say this if she had a cataract? “It’s ok that she can’t see where she’s going, you’ll just have to accept it.”

It could actually be a sin for the wife to not try all options in this case. The condition is curable in many cases. It’s selfish for her to get so upset about it that she refuses to pursue treatment.

Just because it affects sex is hardly a reason to ignore it. Sex is a normal bodily function that ought to be enjoyed by both spouses. I don’t understand the “ignore it” attitude. It is difficult to get a tooth pulled, but nobody says “just leave it in there and it’ll be grand.”
 
Well I agree with that. But the situation seems to be that his wife has a condition that she seems embarassed and/or unwilling to get treatment for. If it turned out that she tried to get it treated and it was untreatable, then I’d be advising the OP to deal with that situation. But it’s not at that point yet. The way it is now is a recipe for resentment and conflict.
Of course there can be non-sexual love, but you don’t normally go into marriage thinking that it will be sexless.
 
If you are presuming you know what she feels because you can’t talk about it and you have no way to tell her how you feel because she is letting you know she doesn’t want to hear it, you need to find someone to help you talk. If you don’t, the growing divergence in how you each “see” your home life going to ruin your relationship.

A marriage can survive without sex. A marriage cannot survive when communication is denied. It can survive when communication is impossible, but not when the two persons are with each other all the time, feeling intense emotions, and yet are denied a way to live their lives with those emotions TOGETHER. More to the point, human beings have conflicts. If they do not know how to face their conflicts and work through them together equitably, those conflicts don’t just go away. Conflicts that are ignored erode trust, erode intimacy, and eventually dissolve friendships.

I’m saying this: You don’t just have a medical problem on your hands. You, my friend, have a conflict. Refusing to face the conflict between you does not mean you don’t have one.

She needs to know that in spite how difficult you find it, you love her, you are more committed to her than to your sex drive, and you are not going anywhere, but you still have a need to share your emotions with her. I don’t mean she needs to “know” in the intellectual sense. I mean she needs to emotionally internalize those truths. You need to know that she is willing to do what she can to be able to have marital relations with you and, if that proves permanently impossible (as it might), you will both have the comfort of knowing that you will go forward knowing you did what you had available to you to do at the time. She needs to know that a willingness to try to find a solution does not imply that she will have to be the subject of invasive and painful “experimentation” for the rest of her life, with the spectre of being a “failure” if a solution is not found.

As it is, sexual intimacy is not the only kind of intimacy you are being denied. You are being denied emotional intimacy, too. You’re being denied the chance to really face this issue together. You are being denied the chance to make this a shared sacrifice and a shared suffering. You are being denied the knowledge that you do both have each other’s backs on this, that there is no recrimination, bitterness, or resentment going forward.

If you do not learn how to talk, if you do both go forward with a fake “mind-reading” method of knowing your spouse’s feelings–and your own, which you will never be able to take out to examine!–then you will inevitably start feeling bitter, resentful, empty and lonely, because you are living in the same house and sacrificing with someone whose sacrifices for you are never felt directly, but only in the imagination (if that).

Tell your wife you and she need to go to counseling together until you both feel that you can talk freely about anything and you both feel you have learned many ways to go about doing it. If she will not go with you, then go by yourself. There are skills you can learn with a counselor that you can bring back home to teach your wife.
 
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I hope you can sit down, separately or together, with your Pastor and discuss this situation.

While a Josephite Marriage can be perfectly valid and loving, it is only entered into when both parties agree and with the understanding that either party may decide that they wish to end that arrangement. Yours is a complex situation and is far more than a bunch of folks on the internet can settle.

Prayers, have courage to speak to your pastor.
 
UPDATE! We talked last night. She has been symptom free for a couple days!?! Healed permanently? An answered prayer miracle? It is all too early to tell. Why now? I have recently reached out for help online and asked for prayer intentions. I believe it to be answered prayers, but also have learned that this condition can come and go. I am hoping it is the former. It is surreal to comprehend this sudden change. I was convinced what was lost was gone forever. I have a whole new appreciation for sex now though. Maybe that is what God has in mind. I can not possibly thank you all enough for your comments, direction and support. God bless you all!
 
Yours is a complex situation and is far more than a bunch of folks on the internet can settle.

Prayers, have courage to speak to your pastor.
Yes…but the point of internet forums is to get advice and support. I mean, it’s not like any of us are experts but advice is advice. The only thing that settles this situation is this guy and his wife, talking about the issue and facing it together.

I really hate it when people make comments to the effect that “no point looking on an internet forum to solve your problems.” It’s kind of insulting to the OP’s intelligence. Do you really think he expects us to solve his problem?
 
Very good to hear that.

I was thinking earlier that sometimes women need to be in the exact right mood, with nothing else on their mind, and literally everything just right, in order to relax. I mean, most men can get the whole business done in under 2 minutes, lets face it. But there’s been times when I realise my wife is just not “in the zone” at the moment. And sometimes it’s because the fan in the bathroom is left on, or there’s a sock on the ground by the door, or the window is open too much.

It’s often very little things that make a big difference in this area.
 
Very good to hear that.

I was thinking earlier that sometimes women need to be in the exact right mood, with nothing else on their mind, and literally everything just right, in order to relax. I mean, most men can get the whole business done in under 2 minutes, lets face it. But there’s been times when I realise my wife is just not “in the zone” at the moment. And sometimes it’s because the fan in the bathroom is left on, or there’s a sock on the ground by the door, or the window is open too much.

It’s often very little things that make a big difference in this area.
Just out of curiosity, have you looked up what vulvodynia is, in medical terms? Her doctor prescribed a numbing cream for her. This was not a “mood” issue. Women who have this issue sometimes cannot sit in chairs for a long time. It is a real and durable medical condition that can often takes months to clear up, without any guarantee that it will clear up sufficiently to make the marital act even tolerable. It is unfortunately not due to a single cause, so determining how to diagnose the cause and treat it can be very frustrating. All they know is that they don’t know (in the beginning). I’m sure it isn’t unusual for patients to feel discouraged about what will happen if they don’t recover.

The husband will do well to proceed with great care to ensure that his wife will agree to never hide pain she is experiencing in order to “not disappoint” him. They really need to get their communication down and to both feel as if they can be honest in the knowledge that they are both committed to take on every problem together, with each knowing that no one is going to place blame when one part of the one body they share is not cooperating with their shared hopes. His greatest concern should clearly be that she is not suffering, not what he is suffering. (If he puts himself in the position where he had a condition where delicate parts of his body could come to be in such pain that he couldn’t sit for a long time, I think he’ll know how to proceed.)
 
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I was speaking generally. I’m not a doctor and I don’t go looking up every single medical condition I come across. It just happens to be a fact that a lot of psychological things can also factor into this area. And certainly my advice doesn’t do any harm in this situation.
 
I was speaking generally. I’m not a doctor and I don’t go looking up every single medical condition I come across. It just happens to be a fact that a lot of psychological things can also factor into this area. And certainly my advice doesn’t do any harm in this situation.
Yes, except that the OP asked for advice concerning a specific problem that is quite different from being too distracted to relax, which is what you were talking about. The condition often leads to patients being in too much pain to even sit for long periods of time.

Think about that. Think about having that kind of medical condition. Would it work for you if your wife treated your unavailability as the same thing as when you were psychologically too distracted? I don’t think so. I think you’d feel she really doesn’t have a lot of empathy for your condition.
 
Yeah, except the OP actually said that the was an improvement in the condition. So I responded with something that took into account that perhaps there is a psychological aspect to this and it couldn’t hurt to be very attentive to his wife’s needs in this situation.
 
I will absolutely agree that attending to his wife’s needs, especially learning how to talk to each other openly, is extremely important. Even if the physical problem clears up entirely, in her place I would be emotionally fragile and concerned lest I have a relapse and feel like I’ve failed my husband. I would need to know that he clearly puts avoiding hurting me in any way far ahead of his own desire for our return to physical intimacy, or it would be very hard to relax. It would be difficult for him to over-do communicating his patience, his relief that her pain has lessened and the high priority he puts on his desire to avoid harming her in any way. He should absolutely avoid rushing back to physical intimacy. That sounds like where he is, which is both the sensitive route and the one most likely to lead to the best long-term result.
 
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