How to deal with fanatical Pentecosts?

[eazyduzit]

Send me a private message and I’ll share some other info

First PRAY MUCH!

Then go online and buy a now discounted because of age copy of:
Catholicism and Fundamentalism by Karl Keeting [founder of this web site] from Ignatius Press

It will give you everything and MORE what you need. Awesome book!

God Bless you,

Patrick

I read that book maybe 15 years ago and there is nothing in it that cannot easily be countered with scripture.

 

[guanophore]

I read that book maybe 15 years ago and there is nothing in it that cannot easily be countered with scripture.

What you are saying is that your perceptions of what the Scripture is saying enable you to reject other points of view. We all read scripture through a lens, or a filter that is created by our experience and education (or lack of it).

Catholics read scripture through the lens of the Church, or the Apostolic faith as it has been handed down to us through the paradosis. Non-Catholics were separated from this paradosis during the Reformation, and adopted new and different lenses. It is these that give rise to the different ways we understand what is written.

 

[Church_Militant]

Best reaction I’ve read in this thread. It would completely befuddle them I think.

That said, I’m glad I don’t live in a place where this type of thing has ever come up. Where I’ve lived people tend to live by the old common sense proverb, “keep thy religion to thy self.”

Do it in Latin and they’ll think you’re speaking in tongues but I suggest the Our Father.

 

[Church_Militant]

You might want to put on a earphone/microphone. Then when they come up to you start talking into it like you are on the phone. You can even mouth “on the phone”. Just make sure your phone is turned off so it doesn’t ring while you are pretending to be unavailable for a conversation.

Yeah…I’d use my IPod to listen to Catholic music or MP3s by John Martignoni (Bible Christian Society ) You can always burn it on a CD and give 'em a copy.

 

[Church_Militant]

I read that book maybe 15 years ago and there is nothing in it that cannot easily be countered with scripture.

Yeah? Well why don’t you open us a thread over in apologetics and lay it all out for us, because I read it too and I assure you that you will fail on an epic level because I know my faith and the Word of God so (as they say) “Don’t sing it, bring it”

 

[kingston1]

Always keep moving. Always change the subject. Wear headphones. Excuse yourself every time they start talking to you to use the restroom, to use your cell phone, to go to your car.

Never, ever engage them in conversation outside the most trivial items. Keep moving and then move away some more. Say “excuse me I have alot to do to.” Then, remove yourself from their presence.

Smile, laugh at them in a nice way like saying to them with your laugh “oh haha that’s amusing… I am not taking you seriously, ha ha!!! oh yes, uh huh, ha ha” and then “excuse me I have to do X.” And leave to the next work out station or machine. Smile and move on.

If you keep moving and excusing yourself they will eventually lose interest.

 

[kingston1]

I read that book maybe 15 years ago and there is nothing in it that cannot easily be countered with scripture.

So true, so true. It’s all a matter of interpretation anyway, right???

 

[JustaServant]

**How to deal with fanatical Pentecosts? **

1. No thank you.

2, Seriously, no thank you.

3, Please leave me alone.

4, Please go away.

5, GO AWAY!

Only as a last resort:
6. Fire some shots in the air.

Anyone taking this seriously will be reported and banned.

 

[Son_of_Niall]

1. Fire some shots in the air.
   

 

[Church_Militant]

**How to deal with fanatical Pentecosts? **

1. No thank you.

2, Seriously, no thank you.

3, Please leave me alone.

4, Please go away.

5, GO AWAY!

Only as a last resort:
6. Fire some shots in the air.

Anyone taking this seriously will be reported and banned.

You can always say something like “GET SOMEWHERE!”

 

[Jeanne_S]

I doubt you can change their minds. They’re quite doubtless sincere and do want to help you recognize and be rescued from what they see as dangerous error.
It is likely that they will twist any scripture you might use to suit their purpose.You say they are fanatical, and fanatic-anyone is locked in their own beliefs system.

Maybe, while praying for them of course, perhaps the best you can do is to tell them to respect your beliefs and choices and to quit trying to convert you. It’s actually quite rude to try to force someone else’s beliefs, even from a simple social viewpoint.

You could tell them that as they trust God, they will pray for you instead of pressuring you, and hopefully their prayers for you will rebound on them to help soften their hearts and open their minds. Only God can give the necessary graces.

I would think…don’t engage with them as any discussion or argument feels to then as if they have a foothold in you. They will continue to try to crack you. Then you just get worn out and sometimes desperate.

You’re at the gym to exercise, and you have the right to do so peacefully!

 

[MugenOne]

I have a similar situation except mine is closer to home. My father in-law is Filipino and is here visiting us from the Philippines. He turned Pentecostal couple of years ago. He says the Pope is Antichrist and Satanist. And the Catholic Church is this and that. We have had couple of discussions over Catholicism in the past five months. When the talk turns heated, we all know to stop talking which is good. He doesn’t know what the hell he is. I can’t get him to return to Catholicism. I’ve pointed out to him all the goods that we do as a Church or my church have done to help the people of the PI. Even the Vietnamese community at my church fundraised twice to help the people of Tacloban after the typhoon struck the area. It is fallen on deaf ears. He is adamant that we are lost and Satanist. By the way, Pentecostal is growing fast in the Philippines because of the lack of proper catechism or ignorance of the Church.

I can’t afford to have him here anymore especially when I am trying to raise a Catholic family. He’s a bad influence on my four years old and other infant son. I can’t wait for him to go home soon even though he and his wife are great helping us with the kids, farm and stuff.

Hi!

There are a few people at my gym who belong to the Pentecostal church and they are nothing short of fanatics. They keep telling me that I should renounce my Catholic faith and get “saved”. They have also added me to this WhatsApp group where they send messages condemning the Catholic faith and the Pope. Today, one of them crossed the line and told that our Pope is the anti-christ. She went on to tell that that was the sermon at her church last week. She called Catholics “Satanists” . She showed me pictures of the Pope with leaders from different faiths telling that he has renounced Christianity. I tried talking sense into her, but in vain. Can anyone please help me how to deal with such people? Any Bible verses which I could quote to them would be of help. I want to shut them up for good.

 

[SyroMalankara]

I have a similar situation except mine is closer to home. My father in-law is Filipino and is here visiting us from the Philippines. He turned Pentecostal couple of years ago. He says the Pope is Antichrist and Satanist. And the Catholic Church is this and that. We have had couple of discussions over Catholicism in the past five months. When the talk turns heated, we all know to stop talking which is good. He doesn’t know what the hell he is. I can’t get him to return to Catholicism. I’ve pointed out to him all the goods that we do as a Church or my church have done to help the people of the PI. Even the Vietnamese community at my church fundraised twice to help the people of Tacloban after the typhoon struck the area. It is fallen on deaf ears. He is adamant that we are lost and Satanist. By the way, Pentecostal is growing fast in the Philippines because of the lack of proper catechism or ignorance of the Church.

I can’t afford to have him here anymore especially when I am trying to raise a Catholic family. He’s a bad influence on my four years old and other infant son. I can’t wait for him to go home soon even though he and his wife are great helping us with the kids, farm and stuff.

The popular Pentecostalists in Asia and South America are not your typical North American theological “Assembly of God” types - they are magick machines that dispense wishes as “God’s self-proclaimed intermediaries”. Of course their services require $$.

 

[Bonnie]

I can’t afford to have him here anymore especially when I am trying to raise a Catholic family. He’s a bad influence on my four years old and other infant son. I can’t wait for him to go home soon even though he and his wife are great helping us with the kids, farm and stuff.

He may not be as bad an influence as you think. A friend married an atheist at a time when she was away from the Church. She returned to the Church & raised their kids in it. The children all prayed for their father’s conversion - which did eventually happen. :angel1: